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    God's Word in the Divine Prologue?

    Hello everyone.

    If you look at the table below (the verses are taken from Richard's excellent database) you will see three overlapping clusters of numbers near the apex of scripture that sum to the standard values of 'Jesus Christ' in Hebrew, Greek and English.

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    The green-coded numbers sum to 925 (Jesus Christ (s)), the turquoise and blue-coded numbers sum to 2368 (Ihsous Christos (s)) and the purple numbers sum to 754 (Yehoshua HaMashiach (s)).

    Now there are 4095 possible combinations of the first 12 words, so I'm not shouting about these from the rooftops, but they have some intriguing features indicating that they might be codes.

    1. First, and most obviously, the Greek numbers can be neatly split into 888 (Ihsous) and 1480 (Christos). They are also in the grammatically-correct order, with no overlap. Note that 888:1480 = 3:5, which is reflected in the 3:5 ratio of the numbers.

    2. The sum of the numbers involved is 2571, or 3 x 857. Theou Logos/God's Word (s) = 857.

    Including numbers that are used more than once, the sum is 4047, or 57 (Mashiach (o)) x 71 (God (s), Yonah/Dove (s)).

    3. The sum of the positional values of these numbers are 65 (Adonai/Lord (s)) and 110 (Yeshua HaMashiach (o)).

    I'd appreciate any comments anyone might have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluetriangle View Post
    Hello everyone.

    If you look at the table below (the verses are taken from Richard's excellent database) you will see three overlapping clusters of numbers near the apex of scripture that sum to the standard values of 'Jesus Christ' in Hebrew, Greek and English.

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    The green-coded numbers sum to 925 (Jesus Christ (s)), the turquoise and blue-coded numbers sum to 2368 (Ihsous Christos (s)) and the purple numbers sum to 754 (Yehoshua HaMashiach (s)).

    Now there are 4095 possible combinations of the first 12 words, so I'm not shouting about these from the rooftops, but they have some intriguing features indicating that they might be codes.

    1. First, and most obviously, the Greek numbers can be neatly split into 888 (Ihsous) and 1480 (Christos). They are also in the grammatically-correct order, with no overlap. Note that 888:1480 = 3:5, which is reflected in the 3:5 ratio of the numbers.

    2. The sum of the numbers involved is 2571, or 3 x 857. Theou Logos/God's Word (s) = 857.

    Including numbers that are used more than once, the sum is 4047, or 57 (Mashiach (o)) x 71 (God (s), Yonah/Dove (s)).

    3. The sum of the positional values of these numbers are 65 (Adonai/Lord (s)) and 110 (Yeshua HaMashiach (o)).

    I'd appreciate any comments anyone might have.

    Which is not very convincing

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    https://www.academia.edu/40035188/Ge...ork_card=title

    Concerning 407 and 296

    These multiples of 37 total 703 - representing the triangle which fits perfectly within the verse triangle 2701 and the hexagon 1801 (see Figure 24) - have a significant part to play in making possible the presence of 2368 among the factors of the 21-digit concatenation of G:

    9132030861395407296 = 2368 x 385643195270859547

    This strongly suggests that G is a carefully ordered set, and this is confirmed in later observations. Thus, remarkably, the Creator?s Name is found again in the numerical expression of 'In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

    But there is more: because 296 - the second component - is factor of both Name and Title of the Creator, thus:

    Jesus = 888 = 3 x 296

    Christ = 1480 = 5 x 296

    Creator = Jesus Christ = 2368 = 8 x 296

    Concerning 302:

    This first CV of the second verse serves the important function of converting G to G+

    - in particular, converting 2701-as-triangle (the 73rd) to 3003-as-triangle (the 77th); it also participates with the last 4 of G
    in the hexagon which fits precisely within 2701-as-triangle - accommodating 703-as-triangle perfectly in the process.



    Figure 24

    Here we see the G-triangle of 2701 precisely inscribed by the hexagon of 1801 (the sum of the last 5 of
    G+, viz. 401 + 395 + 407 + 296 + 302 = 1801) and this, perfectly inscribed by the triangle 703 (the sum of the last 2 of G, viz. 407 + 296 = 703).

    Observe here a fact which appears to be significant, viz. 302 is not included in G
    . It seems that we are thereby intended to understand that the miracle of these coordinated geometries reaches beyond G
    to include the remainder of God's Word. It should not escape our notice that these geometrical elements, deriving from complete sequences of the CVs, must mean that G+
    is an ordered set, i.e. the information it contains extends beyond the numbers themselves.



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    I don't see how he came to these numbers:

    9132030861395407296 = 2368 x 385643195270859547

    Anyone?

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    Here also was included a number zero

    http://filosofia777.blogspot.com/201...ncidencia.html
    S?o dois numeros primos (muito reverenciados pelos matem?ticos). E formam outros dois n?meros primos (37 e 73). As 7 palavras de G?nesis 1.1, possuem os seguintes valores num?ricos:

    913, 203, 086, 401, 395, 407 e 296.
    and then came to:

    2368 x 385643195270859547 = 913203086401395407296
    Vernon Jenkins presented it slight different, including the same zero but leaving out the four and the zero of "et" (the middle word)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    I don't see how he came to these numbers:

    9132030861395407296 = 2368 x 385643195270859547

    Anyone?
    It's a simple mistake in typing out the digits. The sum should be

    913203086401395407296 = 2368 x 385643195270859547

    And as I show in my opening post (and Vernon already knew) the sum of words 3, 5 and 6 is 888.

    Regarding your earlier post, 2701's internal hexagon of 1801 units can also be found entirely within Genesis 1.1, as the sum of words, 1, 3, 5 and 6. There is no need, therefore, to extend to word 8, which makes Genesis 1.1 self-referencing regarding the internal hexagon of 1801 units and the core triangle of 703 units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluetriangle View Post
    It's a simple mistake in typing out the digits. The sum should be

    913203086401395407296 = 2368 x 385643195270859547

    And as I show in my opening post (and Vernon already knew) the sum of words 3, 5 and 6 is 888.

    Regarding your earlier post, 2701's internal hexagon of 1801 units can also be found entirely within Genesis 1.1, as the sum of words, 1, 3, 5 and 6. There is no need, therefore, to extend to word 8, which makes Genesis 1.1 self-referencing regarding the internal hexagon of 1801 units and the core triangle of 703 units.
    but why the "zero" between 203 and 86? To make it fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    but why the "zero" between 203 and 86? To make it fit?
    Because it's as correct to say '086 as it is to say '86'. That way, all the standard values have three digits too, three representing spirit. The numbers have obviously been chosen so that this can be done. It's a 'best fit' type of code, where the numbers were chosen so that the maximum number of meaningful associations can be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluetriangle View Post
    Because it's as correct to say '086 as it is to say '86'. That way, all the standard values have three digits too, three representing spirit. The numbers have obviously been chosen so that this can be done. It's a 'best fit' type of code, where the numbers were chosen so that the maximum number of meaningful associations can be made.
    It's artificial

    In Dutch we say "gezocht"

    Jesus had to made fit into Genesis 1:1

    Like also some say that Jesus is present in the middle word "et", since this word is written with the first and last letter of Hebrew alphabeth, and the risen Jesus himself should have said (according to Revelation 22:13) "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."

    ("the first and the last" being after Isaiah 44:6, So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, "I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no God., which is clearly not about the first and last letter of Hebrew alphabet, but about God's singularity)


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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluetriangle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius
    but why the "zero" between 203 and 86? To make it fit?
    Because it's as correct to say '086 as it is to say '86'. That way, all the standard values have three digits too, three representing spirit. The numbers have obviously been chosen so that this can be done. It's a 'best fit' type of code, where the numbers were chosen so that the maximum number of meaningful associations can be made.
    If we don't pad the number 86 to be three digits long, we get this result:

    91320386401395407296 = 2*2*2*2*2*2*198383743*7192530073

    You can confirm this result with a high precision calculator found here: https://keisan.casio.com/calculator

    It seems clear that the justification for padding the number 86 was motivated by confirmation bias. This seems easy to prove because if the facts were reversed and the desired "confirmation" was found only if we did NOT pad that number, we all know that the padded sum would have been ignored and the unpadded sum would have been presented as "confirmation."

    Now don't get me wrong. This does not necessarily mean that the desired result is insignificant. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. The question is, how does one tell the difference between meaningless and meaningful coincidences?

    This seems to me to be the Achille's heel of all forms of numerology. They are all based on the twin cognitive errors of selection bias and confirmation bias, coupled with the fatal flaws of unfalsifiability and inconsistency. I did my best to overcome these problems when I was a believer but now I see that I fell far short.

    I do admit that Genesis 1:1-5 + John 1:1-5 are surprisingly fruitful from a numerological perspective, though it's apparent significance is greatly diminished when I see that people can find similar "patterns" in pretty much any random text. Case in point: the geometric mimicry of English gematria of "The New Bible Code" that is patterned off the stuff I found so convincing in the Greek and Hebrew gematria. And this is how I freed myself from the illusion of design - I compared contrary patterns with mine until it because clear that post hoc pattern finding is not proof of anything.
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