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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    So Ron Wyatt is kind of modern-day Nachshon

    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nahshon



    Nachshon is also in the generations-list of Matthew

    Matthew 1:4, Ἀρὰμ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἀμιναδάβ, Ἀμιναδὰβ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ναασσών, Ναασσὼν δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σαλμών

    Name Nachshon related to "nachash" = snake


    Ron Wyatt was also kind of a snake

    Weinreb in "De Bijbel als Schepping":

    It is foolishness to go search for that sea here somewhere (...) Anyone who tries to find and explain with perception meausures is like the Pahrao who wanted to go through there with his chariots from Egypt






    https://twitter.com/Minkmaat/status/952189290888552448

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Matthew 27:23,
    Καὶ ἐλθόντες εἰς τόπον λεγόμενον Γολγοθᾶ, ὅ ἐστιν Κρανίου Τόπος λεγόμενος

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...otha_hill2.jpg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU5gVYaJL60

    τόπος = Hebrew "makom"

    Genesis 22:2-3

    And Abraham arose early in the morning, and he saddled his donkey, and he took his two young men with him and Isaac his son; and he split wood for a burnt offering, and he arose and went to the place of which God had told him.
    On the third day, Abraham lifted up his eyes and saw the place from afar.

    v.9,
    And they came to the place of which God had spoken to him, and Abraham built the altar there and arranged the wood, and he bound Isaac his son and placed him on the altar upon the wood.

    v.14,
    And Abraham named that place, The Lord will see, as it is said to this day: On the mountain, the Lord will be seen
    Rashi:


    And Abraham named that place, The Lord will see, as it is said to this day: On the mountain, the Lord will be seen.


    The Lord will see = יְהֹוָ֣ה | יִרְאֶ֑ה "hashem yireh"


    "yireh"= 216 = (cube) 6x6x6, like "d'vir" name of the holy of holies, and like the outline of Genesis 1:1 triangle 73 = 3 x 72.

    "yireh" is seen as first part of the name Jerusalem, "y'ru", also with gematria 216

    the Lord will be seen = יְהֹוָ֖ה יֵֽרָאֶֽה, "hashem yeiraeh"

    "yeiraeh" also 216
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    The altar of the Bible Wheel found in the desert:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvInc9G-UeI

    calf = "egel" עֵ֨גֶל related to "igul" = circle

    "agal"= draw a circle, make round (like a wheel)

    "agalah"= a carriage, coach, wagon

    (characterized by it's wheels)

    Genesis 45:27

    And they told him all of Joseph's words that he had said to them, and he saw the wagons that Joseph had sent to carry him, and the spirit of their father Jacob was revived.

    Rashi:
    So:

    The closing argument went under in the red sea = JAM SUF = sea of the end.

    Exodus 14:25,
    And He removed the wheels of their chariots

    The closing argument couldn't catch the truth it was chasing for.

    And now they made a closed circle argument of that in the form of a golden calf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Note this

    Exodus 32:16,

    Now the tablets were God's work, and the inscription was God's inscription, engraved on the tablets.


    Rashi:



    I bet the evangelical truthfinders never noticed this

    חָרוּת, "charut" , engraved, is also a wordplay with "cheirut"= freedom, liberty


    The name Pi Hachirot is also explained as Pi Hacheirut = the mouth of freedom

    http://divreinavon.com/pdf/pi_hahirot.pdf

    (Rashi:
    They [the Hiroth] are two high upright rocks, and [because there is] the valley between them [this] is called the mouth (פִּי) of the rocks.)

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    New Testament is about final pesach, the final crossing, the final redemption.

    Jesus was crucified on the sixth day that was also the first day of Passover (after the synoptici) or the day before the first day of Passover (after John)

    Same thing about these wheels is also in the creation stories of Genesis.

    The first story of creation is written with only 21 letters, no letter "samech" is used.

    The first letter "samech" occurs in Genesis 2:11, Name of the one is Pishon; that is the one that encompasses all the land of Chavilah, where there is the gold

    that is the one that encompasses ה֣וּא הַסֹּבֵ֗ב, "hu hasoveiv"

    in Ashuri script "samech" is written round like a circle or a wheel, like our "O".

    The number Pi, π, is related to the circle

    21/7 < Pi < 22/7

    22 being the number of 22 letters of Hebrewe alphabet, 7 being the number of days.

    So yosu see you can't get creation "round"-- there remains a little opening.

    I said to be the opening in "yom hashishi", the sixth day, i.e. the opening in the letter "hey" that was added to "shishi" at the completion of creation = at the end of time.


    Rashi:

    http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi=true
    the sixth day: Scripture added a ?hey? on the sixth [day], at the completion of the Creation, to tell us that He stipulated with them, [?you were created] on the condition that Israel accept the Five Books of the Torah.? [The numerical value of the ?hey? is five.] (Tanchuma Bereishith 1). Another explanation for ?the sixth day? : They [the works of creation] were all suspended until the ?sixth day,? referring to the sixth day of Sivan, which was prepared for the giving of the Torah (Shab. 88a). [The?hey? is the definite article, alluding to the well-known sixth day, the sixth day of Sivan, when the Torah was given (ad loc.).]

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    They [the works of creation] were all suspended until the sixth day, referring to the sixth day of Sivan, which was prepared for the giving of the Torah

    The "hey" is the definite article, alluding to the well-known sixth day, the sixth day of Sivan, when the Torah was given
    i.e. revelation on mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia

    Exodus 19:18,
    And the entire Mount Sinai smoked because the Lord had descended upon it in fire, and its smoke ascended like the smoke of the kiln, and the entire mountain quaked violently.


    Deuteronomy 4:11,
    And you approached and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire up to the midst of the heavens, with darkness, a cloud, and opaque darkness.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24cLX3o56rk

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    2 Peter 2:6-9King James Version (KJV)

    6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

    7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

    8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds

    9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:





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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post


    2 Peter 2:6-9King James Version (KJV)

    6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

    7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

    8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds

    9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
    ensample = ὑπόδειγμα from ὑποδείκνυμι = show plainly, teach, warn

    fe Matthew 3:7, But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come ?"

    Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come = τίς ὑπέδειξεν ὑμῖν φυγεῖν ἀπὸ τῆς μελλούσης ὀργῆς

    ὑπόδειγμα physical sign

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwTVFk1HK3Y



    I think it scary

    these are structures of ashes .

    It is quite different from the remnants of Pompeii:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB-WNrqW69o
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Yet I am rather convinced they found the real mount Sinai

    https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...ontent=content


    Where Is Mount Sinai?
    Why don?t the rabbis know where?

    I?ve seen lots of theories about the location of Mount Sinai. Is there any validity to those theories? I know that Judaism reveres the Temple Mount as the site of the Holy Temple, but is there any location that Judaism reveres or at least recognizes as Mount Sinai, the place where G‑d gave the Torah and where the Jewish nation was born? And if not, why?
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    There are lots of theories, but none of them are even close to conclusive. Why is that? Why have the Jewish sages not preserved a tradition regarding the location of the most monumental event in all of history? Why the ambivalence?

    Once the Jewish people received the Torah on Mount Sinai and continued their journey to the Land of Israel, there is just one biblical mention of anyone going back to Mount Sinai.

    We read in the Book of Kings1 how, hundreds of years after the giving of the Torah, Elijah the prophet fled the wicked queen Jezebel and took refuge in a cave on ?the mountain of G‑d, Horeb,? which is identified as none other than Mount Sinai.

    But on closer examination, this incident itself only underscores the question.

    The day after Elijah took refuge, the word of G‑d came to him: ?What are you doing here, Elijah??

    After the prophet complained about his lot and the bad deeds of the people, G‑d told him to step outside and stand on the mountainside. Elijah did so, and then, in one of the most stirring moments in Scripture, we read:

    Behold! the L‑rd passes, and a great and strong wind splitting mountains and shattering boulders before the L‑rd?but the L‑rd was not in the wind.

    And after the wind, an earthquake?not in the earthquake was the L‑rd.

    After the earthquake, fire?not in the fire was the L‑rd.

    And after the fire, a still small sound.

    And as Elijah heard, he wrapped his face in his mantle, and he went out and stood at the entrance to the cave, and behold a voice came to him and [again] said: ?What are you doing here, Elijah??

    G‑d then told him to go back to the people, with instructions on how to deal with them

    Mount Sinai was the site of great drama, but G‑d told Elijah that His eternal place is not in great noises and rumbling earthquakes. Rather, He can be found in our quiet, humble day-to-day actions. His message was clear: ?You don?t belong here. Go back to the people and do your work!?
    Honoring the Place

    Perhaps the rabbis? attitude toward Mount Sinai can best be explained by the following piece of Talmud:

    It is not the place that honors the person; rather, the person honors his place, as we found with regard to Mount Sinai, that as long as the Divine Presence rested upon it, the Torah said: ?Nor let the flocks nor the herds graze before that mountain.?2 Once the Divine Presence departed from the mountain, the Torah said: ?When the shofar sounds long, they may come up to the mountain?3 [indicating that the sanctity was not intrinsic to the place, but was due to the Divine Presence resting there].4

    Mount Sinai itself was not inherently holy. Rather, what was done there gave honor and holiness to Sinai, so once the people received the Torah and moved on, Sinai was no longer holy.

    We read a similar story from the Talmud:

    Rabbah bar bar Chanah said: ?Once we were traveling in the desert, and we were accompanied by a certain Arab. . . . That Arab also said to me: ?Come, I will show you Mount Sinai.? I went and saw that scorpions were encircling it, and they were standing as high as white donkeys . . .?5

    The commentaries explain that scorpions represent the forces of evil. Once the Divine Presence left the place, it became susceptible to unholiness.

    Thus, though Sinai was holy during the giving of the Torah, once it had accomplished its purpose it was void of significance. At Sinai we were given a mission to learn the Torah and uplift and refine the mundane, outside world. Simply hanging around Mount Sinai would defeat the purpose.

    But it does not end there.


    The Talmud states that in the messianic era, all of the synagogues of the diaspora will be transported to the Land of Israel:

    Rabbi Elazar HaKappar says: ?In the future, the synagogues and the study halls in Babylonia will be transported and reestablished in the Land of Israel, as it is stated: ?Surely, like Tabor among the mountains, and like Carmel by the sea, so shall he come.?6 There is a tradition that these mountains came to Sinai at the giving of the Torah and demanded that the Torah should be given upon them. We can therefore extrapolate: Just as Tabor and Carmel, which came only momentarily to Torah, were relocated and established in Israel in reward for their actions, all the more so should the synagogues and study halls in Babylonia, in which the Torah is read and disseminated, be relocated to Israel.?7

    Commentaries explain that this refers to all the synagogues from throughout the generations. Since the Divine Presence rested upon them, and they were considered holy places, their holiness is never entirely erased, and they will be transported to the Land of Israel.

    In a fascinating talk, the Lubavitcher Rebbe explains that if this is true for all the synagogues and houses of Torah learning, then it is surely true for Mount Sinai itself, which was in a sense responsible for all the future generations? learning of Torah and performance of mitzvahs. Thus, in the messianic era, Mount Sinai will regain its holiness and be transported to the Land of Israel.8

    May it be speedily in our days!

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