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    πύλαι ἅ|δου οὐ κατισχύσουσιν αὐτῆς

    πύλη = gate, door http://biblehub.com/greek/4439.htm

    κατισχύω = have strength,; overcome, overpower; win, prevail. http://biblehub.com/greek/2729.htm

    αὐτῆς refers to μου ἡ ἐκκλησία = my congregation called out from (the world) http://biblehub.com/greek/1577.htm

    cf. LXX Numbers 20:10
    καὶ ἐξεκκλησίασεν μωυσῆς καὶ Aαρων τὴν συναγωγὴν ἀπέναντι τῆς πέτρας καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς ἀκούσατέ μου οἱ ἀπειθεῖς μὴ ἐκ τῆς πέτρας ταύτης ἐξάξομεν ὑμῖν ὕδωρ

    Moses and Aaron called out the congregation in front of the rock, and he said to them, "Now listen, you rebels, can we draw water for you from this rock?"


    Hebrew
    וַיַּקְהִ֜לוּ משֶׁ֧ה וְאַֽהֲרֹ֛ן אֶת־הַקָּהָ֖ל אֶל־פְּנֵ֣י הַסָּ֑לַע"vayakhilu moshe v'aharon et -hakahal el-pnei has?la"

    "kiheil"= to convoke, assemble

    "kahal" = multitude, public

    "k'hillah"= congregation

    "kohelet"= Ecclesiastes, counseler.

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    Job 38:17,
    Have the gates of death been revealed to you, and do you see the gates of the shadow of death?

    gates of death = "shaarei mavet" שַֽׁעֲרֵי־מָ֑וֶת
    gates of the shadow of death = "shaarei tzalmavet" שַֽׁעֲרֵ֖י צַלְמָ֣וֶת
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    ἀνοίγονται δέ σοι φόβῳ πύλαι θανάτου πυλωροὶ δὲ ᾅδου ἰδόντες σε ἔπτηξαν


    Isaiah 38:10,
    I said, "In the desolation of my days will I go into the gates of the grave; I am deprived of the rest of my years."

    gates of the grave -- "shaarei sheol" שַֽׁעֲרֵ֣י שְׁא֑וֹל

    LXX
    . ἐγὼ εἶπα ἐν τῷ ὕψει τῶν ἡμερῶν μου ἐν πύλαις ᾅδου καταλείψω τὰ ἔτη τὰ ἐπίλοιπα

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    From this and that might be clear that the rock on which the church is build indeed was the Miriam well

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    1 Corinthians 10:4,

    καὶ πάντες τὸ αὐτὸ πνευματικὸν ἔπιον πόμα: ἔπινον γὰρ ἐκ πνευματικῆς ἀκολουθούσης πέτρας: ἡ πέτρα δὲ ἦν ὁ Χριστός.

    and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was the Christ.

    https://books.google.nl/books?id=31p...page&q&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    From this and that might be clear that the rock on which the church is build indeed was the Miriam well

    "But how you come to the idea that the Bible should relate historical data?" ~ sylvius
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