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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Do you think Adam was a real person who actually existed at a time in the past?
    you evade the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    you evade the question
    You evade the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Adam lived 130 years until he fathered Set

    After that he lived 800 years

    So he lived 930 years.
    Do you believe that Adam was a real person who actually lived 930 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    You evade the question.
    The name Adam does mean "ani domeh" = I am ike, I do resemble.

    Name given by God to the man he created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Do you believe that Adam was a real person who actually lived 930 years?
    We all are Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    The name Adam does mean "ani domeh" = I am ike, I do resemble.

    Name given by God to the man he created.
    Where did you get that? Most people say Adam means "earth" (adamah) from which he was supposedly made.

    But still ... you evade the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    We all are Adam
    I'll take that as a "no."

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Where did you get that? Most people say Adam means "earth" (adamah) from which he was supposedly made.

    But still ... you evade the question.
    http://www.hebreeuwseacademie.nl/ind...ish&pid=tradam

    Adam and Adamah






    Linguistically the word Adam, ?man?, is often related to the word ?earth?, viz. adamah. It is said (as linguists often conclude superficially) that Adam was so called because he had been taken from the earth. Yet this is essentially completely wrong, also linguistically. Indeed, the word ?man?, Adam, comes from the word ?I resemble?, so resemblance. This means to say that man was made in the likeness of God. The word ?likeness? has the same stem as ?man?; so the essential of man is not that he was taken from the earth but that he resembles God, like God said at Creation that He would create man to his image and likeness. Accordingly the word ?adamah?, earth, comes from ?man?. It is the feminine form of ?man?, and the woman is always younger than the man, comes after the man, and through man the earth is indeed deified, brought to God. It is not so that the earth forms man, but man must form the earth.

    It is typical to see that this linguistic error is made in times of materialism, when the feminine side of man, this earthly life, is emphasized. But in times when it is known that man is also divine, that indeed the divine in man is the determining factor, it never occurred to people to say that Adam comes from adamah, because it was very well known that the feminine was derived from the male, and that the man does not have to conform to the woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    I'll take that as a "no."

    Thanks.
    Why then he should have lived a literal 930 (+/- 1-6 months) years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    http://www.hebreeuwseacademie.nl/ind...ish&pid=tradam

    It is typical to see that this linguistic error is made in times of materialism, when the feminine side of man, this earthly life, is emphasized. But in times when it is known that man is also divine, that indeed the divine in man is the determining factor, it never occurred to people to say that Adam comes from adamah, because it was very well known that the feminine was derived from the male, and that the man does not have to conform to the woman.
    Ha! Well known fact? That's hilarious.

    I agree that it is a well known ASSUMPTION common to ancient mythological/symbolic systems, but it certainly is nothing like a "fact." Men quite literally come from women (their mothers). And it could be argued that the fetus begins as female and later differentiates to be male because of the x chromosome (though this point can be debated).

    Why do you think men have nipples?

    Paul stumbled over his own words on this point when he was trying to justify the patriarchal hierarchy of Christianity when he said (1 Cor 11:12) "For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman."
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