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    Stuff Just Keeps Piling Up

    The 1:40 - 4:05 section of this video deals with info that is directly related to the "dark matter" fiasco, and also supports an electric/plasma universe model.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN72r9rJ4w0

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    'Nuff Said

    The 2:28 to 3:38 portion of this video pretty much sums up the title of this thread. The 1:24 - 2:27 portion has implications for an electric universe perspective also.

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    Red face Another Embarassing Mistake

    I wanted to post an update on the "Electric/Plasma Universe" but when I pulled up the thread and looked at my last entry I realized that I forgot to paste the link that I'd copied (again). These days I don't have as much free time as I would like, so I need to remember to slow down and not try to cram too many things into too little time.

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    Not Embarassed About This

    A few days ago, the folks at Suspicious Observers put out an "info-mentary" (found here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4pWZGBpWP0 ) on the electric/plasma universe vs mainstream physics debate that is even more convincing than the video I forgot to link up in post #92. It's a bit "chopped up" but contains a lot of references to the tsunami of recent peer-reviewed papers that practically prove that the mainstream dark matter/dark energy/ gravity paradigm is dead. It also has a statement in it from Anthony Peratt, that this paradigm was actually proven wrong about 50 years ago, but the public wasn't told because the research that proved it was done by our national science labs, and had ties to nuclear research that was classified. University science departments could not afford the equipment to do this kind of research. So it comes as no surprise when the 41:30 - 41:44 section shows how the "battle lines" seem to be formed today. A lot is riding on how this all plays out. It's as big a deal as what happened in Galileo's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    A few days ago, the folks at Suspicious Observers put out an "info-mentary" (found here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4pWZGBpWP0 ) on the electric/plasma universe vs mainstream physics debate that is even more convincing than the video I forgot to link up in post #92. It's a bit "chopped up" but contains a lot of references to the tsunami of recent peer-reviewed papers that practically prove that the mainstream dark matter/dark energy/ gravity paradigm is dead. It also has a statement in it from Anthony Peratt, that this paradigm was actually proven wrong about 50 years ago, but the public wasn't told because the research that proved it was done by our national science labs, and had ties to nuclear research that was classified. University science departments could not afford the equipment to do this kind of research. So it comes as no surprise when the 41:30 - 41:44 section shows how the "battle lines" seem to be formed today. A lot is riding on how this all plays out. It's as big a deal as what happened in Galileo's time.
    Silence,

    Seriously, you need to stop making such silly statements. Dark matter has been recently observed which renders your alternative theories dead. A recent paper was published in The ASTROPHYSICAL JOURNAL that proves dark matters existence. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...38-4357/aaffd6.

    Here is the cliff notes version of the paper from the Dr. herself. https://www.sissa.it/sites/default/f...SSA%20PR_2.pdf

    As fascinating as it is mysterious, dark matter is one of the greatest enigmas of
    astrophysics and cosmology. It is thought to account for 90% of the matter in the
    Universe, but its existence has been demonstrated only indirectly and recently
    called into question. New research conducted by SISSA removes the recent
    doubts on the presence of dark matter within the galaxies, disproving the
    empirical relations in support of alternative theories. The study, published in The
    Astrophysical Journal, also offers new insights into understanding the nature of
    dark matter and its relationship with ordinary matter.

    From the expansion of the universe to the movement of stars in the galaxies, the
    phenomena are many, which, the presence of ordinary matter alone, namely that
    composed by atoms, is unable to explain. The attractive force it generates is not
    sufficient. This had led to the theory of the existence of dark matter, namely
    undetectable, and the idea that galaxies are embedded in its spherical halo.
    ?Three years ago, a few colleagues of the Case Western Reserve University
    strongly questioned our understanding of the universe and the in-depth work of
    many researchers, casting doubt on the existence of dark matter in the galaxies,?
    explains Chiara Di Paolo, a doctoral student of astrophysics at SISSA. ?Analysing
    the rotation curves of 153 galaxies, principally the ?classical? spiral kind, they
    obtained an empirical relationship between total gravitational acceleration of the
    stars (observed) and the component which we would observe in the presence of
    sole ordinary matter in the classical Newtonian theory. This empirical relationship
    which seemed valid in all the galaxies they analysed and at any galactic radius,
    motivated the explanation of gravitational acceleration without necessarily calling
    into question dark matter, but involving for example theories of modified gravity
    such as MOND (Modified Newtonian Dynamics).?

    Di Paolo and her collaborators wanted to verify this relationship, analysing the
    rotation curves of galaxies other than the ?classical? spiral kind: 72 galaxies with
    low surface brightness (LSB) and 34 dwarf disc galaxies. They produced more
    extended results, finding a relationship, which, besides total gravitational
    acceleration and its ordinary component, also involves the galactic radius and the
    morphology of the galaxies.


    ?We have studied the relationship between total acceleration and its
    ordinary component in 106 galaxies, obtaining different results from those
    that had been previously observed,? explains Paolo Salucci, professor of
    astrophysics at SISSA and one of the research authors. ?This not only
    demonstrates the inexactness of the empirical relationship previously
    described but removes doubts on the existence of dark matter in the
    galaxies. Furthermore, the new relationship found could provide crucial
    information on the understanding of the nature of this indefinite
    component.?
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    I am guessing that the SISSA paper you gave links to managed to find some "inexactness" in the data that was put forth by the guys at this link - https://case.edu/think/spring2017/da...l#.XUutQkccXIU The SISSA paper doesn't claim to have "observed" any dark matter. They still seem to be "proving" its existence by inferring the existence of something that is causing the discrepancy in galaxy rotation, a discrepancy that led to the creation of a "place-holder" called dark matter. But there are ways to solve the problem other than the method used by McGaugh and Lelli in their paper, which used visible matter alone. The 28:15 - 31:02 portion of the Suspicious Observers video highlights a good candidate for the missing matter - nano-meter sized dust grains scattered throughout inter-galactic space, along with dust in plasma filaments that is being carried along by the electric currents that are hidden by the dusty plasma. HR4796A has a dust ring around it that has been one of the most well studied of its kind for years, and now they find a 1000 AU wide ring around it that they missed seeing for all those years. How much else are they missing elsewhere? From 31:03 - 34:28, there is an example given that shows how obvious it is that these filaments they are finding are carrying electricity. Ordered magnetic fields running perpendicular to the filaments and parallel to each other. The 45:52 - 49:20 section highlights a problem that is similar to the dust ring that went unobserved for years. That would be the pitiful 5% success rate of measuring the electric current in Enceladus' plumes. That is the same as a 95% failure rate. Instead of inventing something like dark matter, maybe we can get better at measuring what is already there? Can you try to watch the entire video and consider what is being presented?

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    Dark Matter takes another hit in the 2:50 to 3:17 portion here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYzkqbFU2n0 The 3:18 -3:40 portion deals with a common obstacle that electric/plasma universe proponents have to deal with. A lot of assumptions are built into many of the models used by astronomers, and then those models are used as evidence to argue against competing theories. The following quote is from the paper referenced in the video which can be found here - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.02301.pdf

    In the era of the exploitation and the preparation of large stellarsurveys (Gaia, APOGEE, 4MOST, WEAVE), of the detection of gravitational waves mostly originating from dense regions like the cores of clusters (Ligo,LISA), and in an always more holistic view of galaxy formation (HARMONI, Euclid, LSST?), a complete theory on the formation and evolution of clusters is needed to interpret the on-going and forthcoming data avalanche. In this context, the community carries an effort to model the aspects of star cluster formation and evolution in galactic and even cosmological context. However, it is not always easy to understand the caveats and the shortcuts taken in theories and simulations, and their implications on the conclusions drawn. I take the opportunity of this document to highlight three of these topics and discuss why some shortcuts taken by the community are, or could be, misleading.

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    SAFIRE Update

    For a few years now the team at the SAFIRE project have been tiptoeing around claims to have produced the transmutation of elements and nuclear fusion in their plasma chamber. This video - https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/201...t-2019-update/ contains a definite statement that they have transmutation of elements going on, and by using thermodynamic coding they have had the chamber produce the same amount of heat at 7% power input as there should be at 100% input. I haven't had time to watch the whole video yet, so I don't know if they used the "f" word (fusion), but there is something going on in the chamber that is producing extra energy, more than was put in by quite a margin. (6:45 - 15:00) The mix of inorganic transmutated elements found in the chamber matches pretty closely what they find in interstellar space. (31:04 - 32:08) In the 41:08 - 42:10 section they discuss the possibility of using some form of their plasma chamber to possibly deal with radioactive waste. They say that the process has been done, but don't say how fast the radioactive decay will take place, so there's no way to know if this will be practical. But they say they are going to keep working on it, so it does show promise. A lot of progress, with more to follow I'm guessing. For now, it looks like they have achieved their goal of re-creating a model of a star (our sun) in a plasma chamber. The acronym SAFIRE stands for Stellar Atmospheric Function In Regulation Experiment.
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    More Problems For The Big Bang

    The 1:56 - 3:06 portion of this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh0d9EwjkAo spells out more trouble for the big bang theory and more evidence pointing to a plasma/electric paradigm.

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    Another Clue That "Black Holes" Are Circling The Drain

    The 3:44 - 4:17 part of this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqMqfXYMy58 points out another indication that the various theories about black holes are kaput.

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