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    What did really happen to Jesus on the cross?

    The majority of people here on earth have heard about the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah, but only a minority of all the people here on earth have understood what the crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah means. For many, the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah is just a story among other stories.
    When we study the suffering, crucifixion and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Messiah, we see the largest and most significant salvation throughout the entire history of the world, and an event through which we can receive eternal salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus Messiah. You have the opportunity to have your sins forgiven and receive a new, eternal life in the Lord Jesus Messiah.
    Through the suffering and love of the Lord Jesus Messiah, the beauty of Biblical salvation and the significance of the death of the Lord Jesus Messiah on the cross can open up to you in a new way, which can lead you into salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus Messiah.
    Contents:
    Drops of blood
    Judas the deceiver
    Before the Sanhedrin
    Pilate and Herod
    Again before Pilate
    Whipping
    The crown of thorns
    Carrying the cross
    Crucifixion

    The whole article is on the site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/crucifixionofJesus.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetriFB View Post
    The majority of people here on earth have heard about the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah, but only a minority of all the people here on earth have understood what the crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah means. For many, the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah is just a story among other stories.
    When we study the suffering, crucifixion and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Messiah, we see the largest and most significant salvation throughout the entire history of the world, and an event through which we can receive eternal salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus Messiah. You have the opportunity to have your sins forgiven and receive a new, eternal life in the Lord Jesus Messiah.
    Through the suffering and love of the Lord Jesus Messiah, the beauty of Biblical salvation and the significance of the death of the Lord Jesus Messiah on the cross can open up to you in a new way, which can lead you into salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus Messiah.
    Contents:
    Drops of blood
    Judas the deceiver
    Before the Sanhedrin
    Pilate and Herod
    Again before Pilate
    Whipping
    The crown of thorns
    Carrying the cross
    Crucifixion

    The whole article is on the site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/crucifixionofJesus.html
    Hello PetriFB

    Why do you suppose if this god of the Bible is so good and so great, he could not have forgiven humanity in the same manner as you or I forgive someone who has done us wrong, instead of requiring a human sacrifice?

    What kind of a god demands a tortured human to sacrifice his life before he will grant forgiveness, and condemns people to a place of eternal torment that he created if you don't except his sacrifice?

    If this Biblegod were truly an omnipotent creator nothing should be impossible for him. As it is, everything looks man made.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PetriFB View Post
    The majority of people here on earth have heard about the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah, but only a minority of all the people here on earth have understood what the crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah means. For many, the Crucifixion and death of the Lord Jesus Messiah is just a story among other stories.
    When we study the suffering, crucifixion and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Messiah, we see the largest and most significant salvation throughout the entire history of the world, and an event through which we can receive eternal salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus Messiah. You have the opportunity to have your sins forgiven and receive a new, eternal life in the Lord Jesus Messiah.
    Hummm ... yes, I guess a "majority" have heard one or more of the many gospels if we believe the stats from the Joshua Project which says about 59% of the world's population have been "reached". That's a slight majority. But then we must ask "reached with what"? A full half of the "reached" are subjects of the Roman Catholic Church which folks with another Gospel (the Reformers) declared to be the "Antichrist system" with the Pope being the very "Antichrist" himself. But the current numbers mean nothing. What about all the people who have lived and died throughout history without hearing a word about Christ? That's the vast majority I would think.

    But the numbers become even more grim if it is true that "only a minority of all the people here on earth have understood" the true Gospel that you preach. Wow. It's a good thing you came along before it was too late! Oh ... wait ... it is too late for the overwhelming majority of people who have lived and died without ever hearing the "true Gospel." Oh well, to hell with them, right? I mean, everyone is a dirty rotten sinner worthy of eternal torment in hell for the crime of being born and not hearing the Gospel because they were born in Mongolia in 2000 BC. That's some great news you got there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Hummm ... yes, I guess a "majority" have heard one or more of the many gospels if we believe the stats from the Joshua Project which says about 59% of the world's population have been "reached". That's a slight majority. But then we must ask "reached with what"? A full half of the "reached" are subjects of the Roman Catholic Church which folks with another Gospel (the Reformers) declared to be the "Antichrist system" with the Pope being the very "Antichrist" himself. But the current numbers mean nothing. What about all the people who have lived and died throughout history without hearing a word about Christ? That's the vast majority I would think.

    But the numbers become even more grim if it is true that "only a minority of all the people here on earth have understood" the true Gospel that you preach. Wow. It's a good thing you came along before it was too late! Oh ... wait ... it is too late for the overwhelming majority of people who have lived and died without ever hearing the "true Gospel." Oh well, to hell with them, right? I mean, everyone is a dirty rotten sinner worthy of eternal torment in hell for the crime of being born and not hearing the Gospel because they were born in Mongolia in 2000 BC. That's some great news you got there!
    Yes, Richard, from your above comments, you are an unbeliever, and have dropped your short lived Christian status, so apprently you weren't reached in heart and soul. This can easily explain why you went from debunking your wheel, to debunking Christ and Christianity.

    I mean, everyone is a dirty rotten sinner worthy of eternal torment in hell for the crime of being born and not hearing the Gospel because they were born in Mongolia in 2000 BC. That's some great news you got thereAnyway the Holy Spirit reaches people, and we Christians are responsible to reach people at least tell them... its their decision what they do with that information or example etc etc...

    ONLY the Lord knows the exact details and exposure and whether a person had a chance. NO where do all get the same equal chance to decide, NO WHERE. The Lord decides according to our hearts and knows the conditions....and is FAIR.... and JUST.

    Just as with you Richard... no difference.

    Those that know the Lord, are much more responsible than those that don't. When they dont witness His truth and LOVE, they are responsible and will be judged for such..again no different than others.... and shall be ashamed in the HEREAFTER even if saved.

    Come on Richard, if you had discernment and loved the Lord rather than trying to decode the Bible for the wrong motivation, you would know this.

    Besides those that dont have a chance are judged or discerned according to their lifes choices. Those without the law or the LAWGIVER shall judged accordingly and FAIRLY.

    The Lord is JUST and FAIR.

    Always and for ALL, none can complain ..... even though the unrighteous and heathen try to say they would be more righteous and FAIR than the Lord.

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