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    Not Eating from the Tree of Knowledge is like the 2yr. old who doesn't know he's naked when he runs out into the street.. it's the INFANCY stage!

    Gen4:26 "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD".
    1. Why not "to Seth's wife" ?
    2. Was it a nice call upon, or blasphemous, you think?
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Very nice, Sylvie. Prefer pistachios myself. Used to think they came 'bright-white' because I bought them from vending machine and they'd been soaked in salt-water.
    So 'first-impressions' not always lasting..
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    Not Eating from the Tree of Knowledge is like the 2yr. old who doesn't know he's naked when he runs out into the street.. it's the INFANCY stage!

    Gen4:26 "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD".
    1. Why not "to Seth's wife" ?
    2. Was it a nice call upon, or blasphemous, you think?
    "then began" =

    Rashi:
    http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi=true
    then it became common: Heb. הוּחַל, is an expression of חוּלִין profaneness: to name people and idols with the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, to make them idols and to call them deities. — [from Gen. Rabbah 23:7; Baraitha of 49 Methods, quoted in Yalkut Shimoni]

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Daniel's son of man in fact is son of Enosh, Bar-Ènash.

    Genesis 5:9 has him father Kenan, name that is written as Cain, קַיִן, wis extra "nun" קֵינָן
    so that you might think the meaning is the same: "I have acquired a man with the Lord." , קָנִיתִי אִישׁ אֶת יְהֹוָה, "kaniti ish et hashem"

    You might think that "et" before "hashem" means profanation of God, just like the generation of Enosh did, by calling by the name of the Lord.

    I think Daniel might well have had such things in mind, since he also refers to the seventy seven times of Lamech (Daniel 9).
    In Genesis 5 Lamech fathers Noach, the son of Adam and also of Enosh, the one to find favor in the eyes of the Lord.

    Daniel 7:13,
    and behold with the clouds of the heaven, one like a son of Enosh was coming,


    might refer to the "ed", mist, of Genesis 2:6,

    Rashi:

    And a mist ascended
    : Concerning the creation of man, He brought up the [waters of the] deep and watered the clouds to soak the earth, and man was created; like the baker, who puts water [into the flour] and afterwards kneads the dough. Here too, “He watered,” and afterwards, “He formed” [man]. — [from Exod. Rabbah 30:113; Pirkei d’Rabbi Eliezer, ch. 5]

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    Daniel's son of man in fact is son of Enosh, Bar-Ènash. Genesis 5:9 has him father Kenan, name that is written as Cain, קַיִן, wis extra "nun" קֵינָן
    so that you might think the meaning is the same: "I have acquired a man with the Lord." , קָנִיתִי אִישׁ אֶת יְהֹוָה, "kaniti ish et hashem"

    You might think that "et" before "hashem" means profanation of God, just like the generation of Enosh did, by calling by the name of the Lord.

    I think Daniel might well have had such things in mind, since he also refers to the seventy seven times of Lamech (Daniel 9).
    In Genesis 5 Lamech fathers Noach, the son of Adam and also of Enosh, the one to find favor in the eyes of the Lord.

    Daniel 7:13,
    and behold with the clouds of the heaven, one like a son of Enosh was coming,
    might refer to the "ed", mist, of Genesis 2:6, Rashi:
    English Words sound the same but spelled different: Cainan / Canaan -- Course this POV has God learning English, maybe?

    Yes, Enos is included in the "father-to-son" pedigree to Noah#10. Continues on to Abraham#20 and David#33 and Jesus#66.
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    The Jesus Pedigree includes Ahaz (wicked father of Hezekiah) and Amon (wicked father of Josiah), so a profane Enosh might well be indicated IMO.
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    English Words sound the same but spelled different: Cainan / Canaan -- Course this POV has God learning English, maybe?
    Kenan is written with Kuf (nineteenth letter), Canaan with Kaf (eleventh letter); but the maening might be the same:
    dealer, merchant, seller , trader, hawker.


    German has a nice word,
    "veräussern" = to make exterior = to dispose = to sell

    Maybe that's the principal sin.
    Last edited by sylvius; 10-12-2013 at 08:24 AM.

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    Genesis 2:5,

    Now no bush of the field was yet on the earth, neither did any herb of the field yet grow, because the Lord God had not brought rain upon the earth, and there was no man to work the soil.


    bush = "siach", can also mean meditation, speech. Gematria 318, same as of the name Eliezer, coinciding the number 318 trained servants with whom Abraham gained victory over the four kings in favor of the five.

    See the topic -The-burning-bush


    not yet = "terem"

    Rashi:
    Every טֶרֶם in Scripture has the meaning of “not yet,” and it does not mean“before,” and it cannot be made into a verb form, to say הִטְרִים, as one says הִקְדִּים
    Which means that there was no time until the "ed", mist, of Genesis 2:6 ascended from the earth, no growth.

    Rashi:
    neither did any herb of the field yet grow: [I.e.,] had not yet grown. And on the third [day], where it is written: “Let the earth bring forth,” they [the plants] had not yet emerged, but they stood at the entrance of the ground until the sixth day.
    until the sixth day = "ad yom shishi", which intimates that the letter "hey" that was added to "shishi" in Genesis 1:31 coincides the "ed" ("1-4", gematria 5).


    (let him that readeth understand the gematria of "yom shishi" is 666.

    on the third [day], i.e. the day on which the earth brought forth "ets oseh pri" instead of "ets pri oseh pri".

    So it was not the "ets pri oseh pri" that stood at the entrance of the ground until the sixth day, but the "ets oseh pri".

    That must be why Genesis 1:31,
    And God saw all that He had made, and behold it was very good

    very good = "tov m'od", must refer to the "tov" of Genesis 1:12, the 153rd word form the beginning.

    Time only began with Adam's sin. That's also why Jewish new year is coincides the sixth day of creation. Year = "shanah" from verb "shanah"= to repeat, do again.

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    Proverbs 3:18,

    It is a tree of life for those who grasp it, and those who draw near it are fortunate.


    Rashi:

    for those who grasp it:
    Heb. למחזיקים for those who hold onto it, as in (Ex. 4:4): “and he extended his hand and grasped (ויחזק) it.”
    So it's about my Spiraled-rods

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    We got a walnut- tree in our garden, and now is nut-season, nuts falling by thousands, uncountable like the stars of heaven.

    Walnut is Hebrew "egoz", gematria 17, like of "tov", so it's only good, or even very good = "tov m'od" (the seventh and last "tov" of Genesis 1) , by the sages read as "tov mavet"= death is good.

    The secret of the bible.

    Song of Songs 6:11, "el ginnat egoz yaradti", I went down to the nut garden

    English translators don't like "nut garden" http://biblehub.com/songs/6-11.htm

    German Nussgarten

    see:
    http://www.proz.com/kudoz/hebrew_to_...nnat_egoz.html



    Latin for walnut is "glans Iovis" = the head of Jupiter's penis.

    http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic.../english/glans

    "egoz", like "luz" (another name for nut) ends with a "zayin", of which we saw that the original meaning is penis (and not weapon)

    The kernel of the nut is edible, unlike the kernel of a prune, or of an olive.

    The husk ,when ripe, looks like a foreskin:



    It's also extremely dirty, you get black fingers from it.

    The nut is said to be the fruit of the eighth day, after Deuteronomy 8:8.

    The foreskin peeled away, like circumcision on the eighth day.

    Eighth day being also a new day one, in the sense of "yom echad", the unity of the seven days.

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