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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    Not too many are really too interested in your religious theory Richard, it really is only hot air and human logic, which is not true logic at all.
    You are only wise in your own eyes and not too many others.
    What a joke! Please define "human logic" as opposed to "logic".

    It's hilarious to watch you speak for the "masses" as if you had any evidence that "not too many are really interested in my religious theory." How many people are interested in your "religious theory" that you are the Authorized Speaker for God Almighty as if you were sitting on his throne look down to judge the "potsherds of the earth"?

    Have you no humility at all? Do you really think you are following Christ by condemning and judging and insulting others? How pathetic is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    Ofcourse lies are told on both sides of any war, but what is the proof of any truth is the manifestations and the ARAB SPRING is one such manifestation.

    now you can roll your eyes and say i am biased - who cares what you think..... i least of all.
    but.....
    as you live in a ''christian country'' and known by this term worldwide, [USA is a christian country] are you a guilty bystander? -

    now that is the question.
    ofcourse you can ''give a smart' answer and bang your hairy chest'', which is beside the point, because the law of sowing and reaping does come to pass for both the wise in their own eyes and the ignorant,
    I think you are probably the one with a hairy chest ... caused no doubt by an excess of testosterone (if your style of commentary is any indication).

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    IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE WHEN YOUR'E CORNERED RICHARD you go off on a tangent of uninteresing waffle - the world does not run on your theories nor upon your personal ''wisdom'' .

    the arab spring is a manifested reality - but please - have the last waffle, and side step the issues......
    on most posts you do this i noticed - i guess it must be a happy feeling to be so wise in your own conceit......
    as for poor Rose and her ''unjust god'' and ''how awefull it all is'' - the real problem is her carnal mind is working overtime, - after all the bible is not a library book any old person can pick up and be ''an authority upon'' - NO - the bible is a love letter to Messiah's disciples, [a small remnant not out from any divisional church,] who seem to understand it perfectly not only that= APPLY the holy advice to their lives and find it works - that is why i take time to utterly trash your childish religious concepts.

    however as you cannot refute the arab spring uprising and make sense - i am now bored with this conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE WHEN YOUR'E CORNERED RICHARD you go off on a tangent of uninteresing waffle - the world does not run on your theories nor upon your personal ''wisdom'' .
    Cornered? Are you delusional? (That's a rhetorical question, obviously).

    What exactly is the "corner" you think you've cornered me in? I have no idea what you are raving about.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    the arab spring is a manifested reality - but please - have the last waffle, and side step the issues......
    I have not said a word about the "Arab spring" and whether or not it is a "manifestation". If you want to "corner me" you are going to have to quote some words I've actually written and show how they are in error. Good luck with that.

    I get the impression you are using that word like the crazed Pentecostals talk about "manifestations" of the Spirit which are more like infestations of brain maggots, like what we see here:



    Or are you a member of the Name It and Claim It (Blab It and Grab It) crowd that is just a Christian version of The Secret of manifesting carnal wealth? Is that what you are talking about?

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    on most posts you do this i noticed - i guess it must be a happy feeling to be so wise in your own conceit......
    You think I am arrogant because I have pricked your pride. You seem to be obsessed with "conceit" - too bad you don't realize how much that reveals about yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    as for poor Rose and her ''unjust god'' and ''how awefull it all is'' - the real problem is her carnal mind is working overtime, - after all the bible is not a library book any old person can pick up and be ''an authority upon'' - NO - the bible is a love letter to Messiah's disciples, [a small remnant not out from any divisional church,] who seem to understand it perfectly not only that= APPLY the holy advice to their lives and find it works - that is why i take time to utterly trash your childish religious concepts.
    You are going to have to put in a little more "time" if you want to successfully "trash" anything Rose or I have written. Our words stand on the facts of reality. If you want to refute them, then you need to deal with what the Bible actually says. Here's a good place to start. Please explain how GENOCIDE is not a moral abomination. Then please explain how God commanding his people to slaughter every man, woman, and child of the Midianites, except 32,000 sexy virgins that were taken as sex slaves (Numbers 31), is anything other than an absolute moral abomination.

    You are full of bluster like a great wind, and with about as much content.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    however as you cannot refute the arab spring uprising and make sense - i am now bored with this conversation.
    bye
    Internet trolls always say how "bored" they are when they can't defend their words. You are not bored. You have been exposed as a arrogant religious crank who could not form a cogent argument if your life depended on it. And you are freaking RUDE beyond measure. A fine example of how Christianity tends to corrupt the minds and morals of believers. That's no surprise, of course, since you believe that genocide and mass rape of 32,000 sexy virgins is not wrong according to God's Eternal Moral Standard revealed in the inerrant and infallible Word of God.
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    waffle waffle waffle.....


    hey, get it off ya chest......
    let your anger out...........
    explode Richard i see the pressure is rising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    waffle waffle waffle.....
    Is this what you are trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post
    hey, get it off ya chest......
    let your anger out...........
    explode Richard i see the pressure is rising.
    My chest? You are the one with the hairy chest that you've been thumping irrationally for all to see.

    I found this picture of you at one or your wild religious shindigs. Looks like you were having fun!

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    It's pretty clear your brain exploded long ago in the lala land of lunatic arrogant religious fundamentalism. You don't know the first thing about me, but you have placed yourself up as judge over me and delight in spewing your ignorant incoherent half-baked opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyPeragickqlin View Post

    as you live in a ''christian country'' and known by this term worldwide, [USA is a christian country] are you a guilty bystander? -
    I wanted to correct your ignorance.

    The USA is NOT a Christian country. It never was and it never will be. Is Christianity the dominate religion? Yes. The USA was founded on a secular document called The Constitution. It's the law of the land, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L67 View Post
    I wanted to correct your ignorance.

    The USA is NOT a Christian country. It never was and it never will be. Is Christianity the dominate religion? Yes. The USA was founded on a secular document called The Constitution. It's the law of the land, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being.
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    ummm perhaps your great heros of US of A were liars then

    Quote Originally Posted by L67 View Post
    I wanted to correct your ignorance.

    The USA is NOT a Christian country. It never was and it never will be. Is Christianity the dominate religion? Yes. The USA was founded on a secular document called The Constitution. It's the law of the land, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being.
    really.....perhaps this is you, dressed as an angel of light ..
    tragically, it is a heritage that is now being denied by historical revisionists who wish to erase all vestiges of Christianity from our nation's memory. And so, I plan to prove to you that our nation was established on a very strong Christian foundation.
    the lamb and the lion ministry has done some homework thT SEEMS TO REFUTE YOUR HUMANISTIC spirit 167
    '' Scriptures, our Founding Fathers did not trust anyone with power, not even themselves. They therefore proceeded to construct a government that would limit the use of power.

    Equally important was their conviction that the Word of God constitutes a higher law to which all men and governments are subject, that the fundamental rights of mankind are derived from that law and not from government.

    And thus, in the nation's Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson wrote: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

    To put it another way, the Founding Fathers of our nation expressly rejected the traditional philosophy of Humanism and its concept that Man is basically good and capable of perfection and that therefore those who are highly educated have a natural right to rule over those less fortunate.

    They also rejected the radical form of Humanism that came to prevail in the French Revolution and which produced a reign of terror; namely, a belief in the essential goodness of the common man. Again, because of their world view, our Founding Fathers trusted no one. They refused to establish a monarchy or an oligarchy. But they also distrusted the common man, so they refused to establish a democracy because they feared it would quickly evolve into mobocracy''
    [/QUOTE]

    http://internationalcopsforchrist.com/blog/?page_id=78

    I rather liked,.....
    We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”
    I enjoyed reading this [very interesting]
    http://isamericaachristiannation.org/

    1.We will go step-by-step through a decision by the United States Supreme Court, the highest judicial body in America, which officially and unanimously declared in 1892 that America is legally and organically a Christian nation (Holy Trinity Church vs. United States). This alone should answer the question, but we'll help you understand the reasons behind the Court's declaration.
    Why not begin today........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L67 View Post
    I wanted to correct your ignorance.

    The USA is NOT a Christian country. It never was and it never will be. Is Christianity the dominate religion? Yes. The USA was founded on a secular document called The Constitution. It's the law of the land, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being.
    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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