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    Micah's Connection to Revelation 11

    Recently I was re-studying Revelation along with the great commentary by G.K. Beale (NIGTC) and I found this paragraph in his discussion on Revelation 11. I believe that reading the books on the spokes that correspond to each chapter of Revelation will produce much light. Of course, only those who know about the Bible Wheel know this .... I pray the Spirit will lead more and more noted theologians and scholars to find the Bible Wheel.

    Found on page 606:

    "The pattern of Revelation 11:9-13 is found in striking fashion in Micah 7:8-17; (1) an enemy "rejoices" over Israel's defeat; (2) Israel's deliverance and restoration from captivity are portrayed as "rising" and likened to "the exodus out of Egypt"; (3) the enemies "see" the deliverance, "lay their hands on their mouth and (4) are shamed by it; (5) then their "cities are leveled and parted" in judgement; (6) the last response of the enemies is that they become "amazed" and "afraid" of God. It is clear that Micah 7 stands in the background of Revelation 11 because of the striking parallels and the overt association with the exodus, which already has been echoed throughout Revelation 11. This backgound supports the conclusion that the enemies "fear" is not true conversion, since the judgment in Micah is all-encompassing and the "fear" there is the terror experienced by those undergoing severe judgment.

    Furthermore, the context of judgment beginning at Revelation 8:6 upthrough 11:12 together with the OT background favors an identification of the survivors in 11:13 as unbelievers suffering judgment. That vv.11-12 emphasize God's vindication of the whole church at the end of the age implies that those not vindicated in vv.11-13 are not among God's people. In addition, the purpose of the prophets' witness in 11:3-6 is apparently not to induce repentance but to "torment" (so 11:10). They are God's agents executing his beginning judgment on recalcitrant humanity (see on 11:5-6,10).
    There has long been disagreement on whether those who gave glory in God after the 2 witnesses are raised symbolize repentant Jews. I think the connection to Micah shows that the glory to God is not birthed by repentance but by concession.

    Btw, 1Kgs is clearly connected to Revelation 11 in its emphasis on the ministry of Elijah. A deep study of each chapter of Revelation with the corresponding books on each spoke needs to be done by those not already predisposed and locked into a system of interpretation....imho.
    Last edited by Brother Bob; 06-18-2007 at 12:52 PM.

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    Micah 7 (NKJV)

    Sorrow for Israel’s Sins

    1 Woe is me!
    For I am like those who gather summer fruits,
    Like those who glean vintage grapes;
    There is no cluster to eat
    Of the first-ripe fruit which my soul desires.
    2 The faithful man has perished from the earth,
    And there is no one upright among men.
    They all lie in wait for blood;
    Every man hunts his brother with a net.
    3 That they may successfully do evil with both hands—
    The prince asks for gifts,
    The judge seeks a bribe,
    And the great man utters his evil desire;
    So they scheme together.
    4 The best of them is like a brier;
    The most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge;
    The day of your watchman and your punishment comes;
    Now shall be their perplexity.
    5 Do not trust in a friend;
    Do not put your confidence in a companion;
    Guard the doors of your mouth
    From her who lies in your bosom.
    6 For son dishonors father,
    Daughter rises against her mother,
    Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
    A man’s enemies are the men of his own household.
    7 Therefore I will look to the LORD;
    I will wait for the God of my salvation;
    My God will hear me.

    Israel’s Confession and Comfort

    8 Do not rejoice over me, my enemy;
    When I fall, I will arise;
    When I sit in darkness,
    The LORD will be a light to me.
    9 I will bear the indignation of the LORD,
    Because I have sinned against Him,
    Until He pleads my case
    And executes justice for me.
    He will bring me forth to the light;
    I will see His righteousness.
    10 Then she who is my enemy will see,
    And shame will cover her who said to me,

    ' Where is the LORD your God?'
    My eyes will see her;
    Now she will be trampled down
    Like mud in the streets.
    11 In the day when your walls are to be built,
    In that day the decree shall go far and wide.[a]
    12 In that day they[b] shall come to you
    From Assyria and the fortified cities,[c]
    From the fortress[d] to the River,[e]
    From sea to sea,
    And mountain to mountain.
    13 Yet the land shall be desolate
    Because of those who dwell in it,
    And for the fruit of their deeds.

    God Will Forgive Israel

    14 Shepherd Your people with Your staff,
    The flock of Your heritage,
    Who dwell solitarily in a woodland,
    In the midst of Carmel;
    Let them feed in Bashan and Gilead,
    As in days of old.
    15 ' As in the days when you came out of the land of Egypt,
    I will show them[f] wonders.'
    16 The nations shall see and be ashamed of all their might;
    They shall put their hand over their mouth;
    Their ears shall be deaf.
    17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent;
    They shall crawl from their holes like snakes of the earth.
    They shall be afraid of the LORD our God,
    And shall fear because of You.
    18 Who is a God like You,
    Pardoning iniquity
    And passing over the transgression of the remnant of His heritage?

    He does not retain His anger forever,
    Because He delights in mercy.
    19 He will again have compassion on us,
    And will subdue our iniquities.

    You will cast all our[g] sins
    Into the depths of the sea.
    20 You will give truth to Jacob
    And mercy to Abraham,
    Which You have sworn to our fathers
    From days of old.


    Footnotes:

    Micah 7:11 Or the boundary shall be extended
    Micah 7:12 Literally he, collective of the captives
    Micah 7:12 Hebrew arey mazor, possibly cities of Egypt
    Micah 7:12 Hebrew mazor, possibly Egypt
    Micah 7:12 That is, the Euphrates
    Micah 7:15 Literally him, collective for the captives
    Micah 7:19 Literally their

    (As an aside, notice the opposite what Elijah would do in verses 5,6:
    "6 For son dishonors father,
    Daughter rises against her mother,
    Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
    A man’s enemies are the men of his own household.
    7 Therefore I will look to the LORD;
    I will wait for the God of my salvation;
    My God will hear me."

    Elijah is to turn the heart of the fathers to the sons and mothers to daughters. Jesus used the same passage to show that He came to bring division even among family members.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Bob View Post
    Recently I was re-studying Revelation along with the great commentary by G.K. Beale (NIGTC) and I found this paragraph in his discussion on Revelation 11. I believe that reading the books on the spokes that correspond to each chapter of Revelation will produce much light. Of course, only those who know about the Bible Wheel know this .... I pray the Spirit will lead more and more noted theologians and scholars to find the Bible Wheel.
    Thanks for posting this Bob. I will write more as I investigate it myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Bob View Post
    Btw, 1Kgs is clearly connected to Revelation 11 in its emphasis on the ministry of Elijah. A deep study of each chapter of Revelation with the corresponding books on each spoke needs to be done by those not already predisposed and locked into a system of interpretation....imho.
    Yes, the Elijah connection is very strong. It also is seen in the Inner Cycle of Matthew, where Elijah first appears by name in Matthew 11.

    There also is a strong correlation between Solomon's Temple in 1 Kings and the appearance of the Temple of God at the end of Revelation 11.

    RAM

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    The pattern of Revelation 11:9-13 is found in striking fashion in Micah 7:8-17
    Thank you for such a great quote, Brother Bob! Kaph is the sign of similarity - the story in Revelation 11 is similar to that in Micah (just like Ahab and Naboth, a story told twice).

    Victor

    P.S: Elijah (Book 11) is also linked to Romans 11!
    Last edited by Victor; 06-16-2007 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Thank you for such a great quote, Brother Bob! Kaph is the sign of similarity - the story in Revelation 11 is similar to that in Micah (just like Ahab and Naboth, a story told twice).

    Victor

    P.S: Elijah (Book 11) is also linked to Romans 11!
    You might want to put Romans and Revelation side by side and compare the chapters!

    Romans 13 authority's God-given
    Revelation 13 the beast's authority comes from the dragon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    You might want to put Romans and Revelation side by side and compare the chapters!

    Romans 13 authority's God-given
    Revelation 13 the beast's authority comes from the dragon!
    Thanks Victor and gilgal. The comparison to Romans is enticing.

    Another help to my study of Revelation is holding it up to the Gospel of John. There is a move through the Gospel of John in the setting of the sanctuary. There is a similar move through Revelation as well as the feasts of Israel. Off topic on this thread but interesting to add here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    You might want to put Romans and Revelation side by side and compare the chapters!
    I think many surprises pop up! I instantly recall that Hand appears in Romans only in Chapter 10, and in Revelation, Hand is maximized in Chapter 10!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    Romans 13 authority's God-given
    Revelation 13 the beast's authority comes from the dragon!
    I feel so happy that I'm not the only one who sees that! I could write a whole article on it! It's deep!

    Victor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I think many surprises pop up! I instantly recall that Hand appears in Romans only in Chapter 10, and in Revelation, Hand is maximized in Chapter 10!!
    Yep! That's one of the links. See Inner Wheels > Romans 10. And in John 10, we have Jesus speaking of His Father's Hand, just like He spoke of His Fathers House (Bet) in John 2.


    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I feel so happy that I'm not the only one who sees that! I could write a whole article on it! It's deep!

    Victor
    You are happy? Imagine how I feel!


    And I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to see the paper you could write! <-- big wink

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    Here are the two texts, Romans and Revelation 13:

    Looking for power sword
    Romans 13
    1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
    2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
    3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
    4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
    5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
    6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
    7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
    8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
    9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
    11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
    12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
    13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
    14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
    Looking for power sword
    Revelation 13
    1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
    4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
    5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
    6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
    7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
    8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
    9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
    10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
    11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
    13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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