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  1. #91
    sylvius,
    re: "Maybe it is like..."


    I'm not looking for a "maybe". I'm looking for a "there is no maybe about it".

    But perhaps someone new looking in will know of actual examples, i.e., instances.

  2. #92
    Since it's been awhile, maybe someone new visiting this topic might know of examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstrats View Post
    Since it's been awhile, maybe someone new visiting this topic might know of examples.

    Genesis 40:18-22,

    And Joseph replied and said, "This is its meaning: the three baskets represent three days ("shloshet yamim")
    In another three days ( b'od shloshet yamim") Pharaoh will remove your head from you and hang you on a gallows, and the birds will eat your flesh off you."
    Now it came about on the third day ("byom hashlishi"), Pharaoh's birthday, that Pharaoh made a feast for all his servants, and he counted the chief cupbearer and chief baker among his servants.
    And he restored the chief cupbearer to his [position as] cupbearer, and he placed the cup on Pharaoh's palm.
    And the chief baker he hanged, as Joseph had interpreted to them.

  4. #94
    sylvius,

    And again your comments deal with issues for a different topic.

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    Hi rstrats,

    What is the point of this thread?

    How would the proof you ask for, in any way clarify Jesus own prophecy about His time in the grave?

    All you need is two Sabbaths - the Passover and the following day - for three sunsets to have occurred. One period of daylight was when He died and was buried, and He was raised before the fourth period of daylight.
    16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    Ephesians 3

  6. #96
    Charisma,
    re: "What is the point of this thread.?"

    I'm not really sure that this topic can be said to have a particular point.

    If someone believes that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the first day of the week, and thinks that the "heart of the earth" refers to the tomb or at the earliest to the time that the Messiah's spirit left His body, and tries to explain the lack of a third night time by saying that He was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period, I am simply curious to know what examples are being used to legitimately say that it was common.




    re: "How would the proof you ask for, in any way clarify Jesus own prophecy about His time in the grave?"

    I guess that it would indicate that the Messiah didn't necessarily have to mean that He would spend at least a portion of a third night in the tomb. But again, that's an issue for a different topic.

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    Hi rstrats,

    Thanks for your reply, which emphasises that your enquiry is only to those who hold that Jesus was crucified on the 6th day (whoever they are).

    On looking for clearer interpretation of the term 'high day', https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sabbaths this page makes the most sense of everything in the New Testament.

    So, your quest continues.
    16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    Ephesians 3

  8. #98
    Charisma,
    re: "Thanks for your reply, which emphasises that your enquiry is only to those who hold that Jesus was crucified on the 6th day (whoever they are)."

    That question seems a bit odd since I think that the majority believe the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week.

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    Hi rstrats,

    If that's true, it would suggest that even people who read the Bible don't apply their mind to what can be deduced from scripture.

    For instance, if a feast begins on the same date each year, and that date is always a Sabbath, then (just like birthdays) those Sabbaths will cycle through all the days of the week.
    16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    Ephesians 3

  10. #100
    Charisma,
    re: "For instance, if a feast begins on the same date each year, and that date is always a Sabbath, then (just like birthdays) those Sabbaths will cycle through all the days of the week."

    I'm afraid I don't see your point with regard to providing examples which show that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

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