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    Pope father of many nations and spoke 1

    Yes, I wanted to post a study on Roman Catholicism found in the pattern of the Biblewheel. The Spoke which I believe has a lot to say about it is Spoke 1, letter Aleph and books Genesis/Isaiah/Romans.

    Abba is the Aramaic term for Av or Father in Hebrew, defined in Romans:
    Romans 8:14 (KJV) 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    Romans 8:15 (KJV) 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Another place where Abba Father is mentioned is in the Gospel believed to be written to the Romans, Mark:

    Mark 14:36 (KJV) 36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things [are] possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

    Romans is considered as the "cathedral of the Christian faith". The church of Rome having started by the Saints but not founded by the Apostles makes Paul write an introduction to the Christian faith.

    Wikipedia:
    The Church in Rome

    Main article: Textual criticism
    See also: Early centers of Christianity#Rome
    The most probable ancient account of the beginning of Christianity in Rome is given by a 4th century writer known as Ambrosiaster:[14]

    It is established that there were Jews living in Rome in the times of the Apostles, and that those Jews who had believed [in Christ] passed on to the Romans the tradition that they ought to profess Christ but keep the law [Torah] … One ought not to condemn the Romans, but to praise their faith, because without seeing any signs or miracles and without seeing any of the apostles, they nevertheless accepted faith in Christ, although according to a Jewish rite.[15]

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epist...mans#section_6

    Abram/Abraham:
    Coming back to the Biblewheel Abram means ram - "strong" according to the Strong's concordance and ab "father" hence "strong father". Ram is also used as height or exalted as in Ramoth-Gilead which are the heights of Gilead. Therefore it is "exalted father".

    Abraham means "father of a multitude" or "father of many nations":
    Genesis 17:4 (KJV)
    As for me, behold, my covenant [is] with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

    Romans 4:17 (KJV)
    (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, [even] God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

    The Pope of Rome:
    Rome is derived by "ram" meaning "strong" or "exalted". Therefore the Pope of Rome is considered as an "exalted father" and a "father of many nations".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post

    Abram/Abraham:
    Coming back to the Biblewheel Abram means ram - "strong" according to the Strong's concordance and ab "father" hence "strong father". Ram is also used as height or exalted as in Ramoth-Gilead which are the heights of Gilead. Therefore it is "exalted father".

    The Pope of Rome:
    Rome is derived by "ram" meaning "strong" or "exalted". Therefore the Pope of Rome is considered as an "exalted father" and a "father of many nations".
    I will give you that; R(Richard) A(Amiel) M(McGough) is a "strong" opponent.

    See any resemblence to David versus Goliath (A strong man)?

    Who won?

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by David M View Post
    I will give you that; R(Richard) A(Amiel) M(McGough) is a "strong" opponent.

    See any resemblence to David versus Goliath (A strong man)?

    Who won?

    David
    Well, your name is David, but your sling is empty. You need to find some "smooth stones" (valid arguments) if you want to win any battle with me.

    1 Samuel 17:39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. 40 And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Well, your name is David,
    but your sling is empty.
    You need to find some "smooth stones" (valid arguments)
    if you want to win any battle with me.
    Nice poetry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Well, your name is David, but your sling is empty. You need to find some "smooth stones" (valid arguments) if you want to win any battle with me.

    1 Samuel 17:39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. 40 And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine.
    Yes, David showed his wisdom in not going Saul's way.

    David

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    Sadly no comment on the subject but criticism

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