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    Milking the Sheep!

    Sheep Milking..

    Paul wrote in 1Cor3:2 "I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able".

    Peter wrote in 1Pet2:2 "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby".

    Isaiah wrote 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts".

    The Prophet Samuel (the name means 'asked of God') needed to be WEANED before beginning his Ministry and anointing the first two Kings of Israel.

    We all know how nec is Mother's Milk for the newborn infant.

    So why wouldn't FATHER'S MILK be required for the born-again newborn?

    Not cow's milk or goat's milk -- Scripture itself is the Father's Milk for growing spiritually!

    Are you ready to belly up to the bar? Been Weaned, and wanting some meat?
    "The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk". Ex23:19, 34:26, Deut14:21

    But of course they did that when they crucified Jesus with his mother looking on! Touche?
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    So why wouldn't FATHER'S MILK be required for the born-again newborn?
    I'd post a pic of "father's milk" but I don't allow pornography on this forum.

    Metaphors are powerful things Bob. What image comes to mind when you think of father's milk?

    Here's the definition given in the Urban Dictionary:

    Father's Milk:
    Semen jizz spunk cum protein

    Example:
    Mark: How did you get on last night with that new Lass of yours
    Martin: Well she had a mouthful of father's milk

    Is this really the image you were aiming for?
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    Lighten up, Richard -- Its not as though I said "Thus Saith the Lord", or declared myself a prophet, so why your insistence on more details? Most would chalk it up to delerium, dementia, or bi-polar, and not give further thought -- some might get a chuckle, but your focus seems curiously extreme, and not at all in line with God's Word!
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    Lighten up, Richard -- Its not as though I said "Thus Saith the Lord", or declared myself a prophet, so why your insistence on more details? Most would chalk it up to delerium, dementia, or bi-polar, and not give further thought -- some might get a chuckle, but your focus seems curiously extreme, and not at all in line with God's Word!
    What are you talking about? My comment had nothing to do with whether or not you said "thus saith the Lord" or if you had declared yourself a prophet.

    My comment was about the imagery evoked by the idea of "father's milk." Do you understand why I find that phrase problematic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    What are you talking about? My comment had nothing to do with whether or not you said "thus saith the Lord" or if you had declared yourself a prophet. My comment was about the imagery evoked by the idea of "father's milk." Do you understand why I find that phrase problematic?
    Yeh, right. Was thinking more of your comments re the Prez. However, I consider your views about 'Father's Milk" to be filthy and nasty and w/o merit in any way. Whoever planted that kind of seed in your thinking? I left out about El Shaddai, the breasty one of Ex6:13, but would think you'd have already known.

    Heb5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe".
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    Yeh, right. Was thinking more of your comments re the Prez.
    OK - I understand. You were thinking about my comments in that other thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    However, I consider your views about 'Father's Milk" to be filthy and nasty and w/o merit in any way. Whoever planted that kind of seed in your thinking? I left out about El Shaddai, the breasty one of Ex6:13, but would think you'd have already known.

    Heb5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe".
    The "filthy idea" was not planted in my mind. It is the image that your phrase naturally evokes. This should be obvious. That's why it's in the Urban Dictionary. The most obvious association with the concept of "father's milk" will be sexual to many if not most people.

    The Biblical name "El Shaddai" may or may not refer to breasts. If it does refer to breasts, then it probably was imported from the Canaanite religion, as explained in the wiki article:
    Harriet Lutzky, Adjunct Assistant Professor of Psychology at John Jay College, City University of New York, has presented evidence that Shaddai was an attribute of a Semitic goddess, linking the epithet Shaddai with the Hebrew šad meaning "breast", giving the meaning "the one of the Breast", as Asherah at Ugarit is "the one of the Womb". A similar theory proposed by Albright is that the name Shaddai is connected to shadayim, the Hebrew word for "breasts". It may thus be connected to the notion of God's gifts of fertility to the human race. In several instances in the Torah the name is connected with fruitfulness: "May God Almighty [El Shaddai] bless you and make you fruitful and increase your numbers…" (Gen. 28:3). "I am God Almighty [El Shaddai]: be fruitful and increase in number" (Gen. 35:11). "By the Almighty [El Shaddai] who will bless you with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lies beneath, blessings of the breasts [shadayim] and of the womb [racham]" (Gen. 49:25).
    Now if you want to get into the real meaning of the words in the Bible, you will have to read what the scholars say. For example, here is a snippet from the article The God with Breasts: El Shaddai in the Bible.
    Albright speculates that this god of the mountains was an Amorite god
    brought to Syria where he became the Canaanite Baal-Hadad, the
    storm god who was a mountain deity.
    The patriarchs, themselves
    probably of Amorite origin, worshiped Shaddai in conjunction with
    the Canaanite El, but this worship later gave way to the worship of
    Yahweh. Albright argues that Yahweh, although repeatedly associated
    with mountians (Sinai, Horeb, Zion, Moriah, etc.), was not essentially
    a mountain god, and that this attribute was assimilated into Yahwism
    from the Amorite-Canaanite Shaddai.

    Albright's thesis has been generally adopted by more recent
    scholars, though they have added various refinements. F. M. Cross
    strengthened Albright's philological arguments, while Lloyd Bailey,
    Jean Ouellette, and E. L. Abel suggested quite persuasively the
    possibility that El Shaddai derives from the Amorite lunar god Sin il
    Amurru or Bel Shade,
    who was at once a storm and war god and also
    a god of the mountains.5 It was therefore natural for the wandering
    Amorite patriarchs to identify this god with the Canaanite El and
    later to transfer the epithet to Yahweh. These scholars believe that the
    name El Shaddai is extremely ancient and may indeed have been one
    of the authentic pre-Canaanite epithets for the "god of the fathers"
    brought along by the patriarchs from their Mesopotamian homeland.6
    Serious study of the Bible does not lead one to traditional Christian beliefs.
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