How Beliefs Resist Change - Christianity and Cognitive Science

[Ps 27:1]

Hi Timmy,

Blessed Sabbath to you! Fascinating video. I only watched the first 7 min or so because I want to do some reading and posting. Will watch the rest later. Do you believe God used evolution to "create" man? Just curious, since the video brought up evolution about the time I decided to put it on the back burner. I won't think any less of you if you do!

Steve

[Timmy]

Hi Timmy,

Blessed Sabbath to you! Fascinating video. I only watched the first 7 min or so because I want to do some reading and posting. Will watch the rest later. Do you believe God used evolution to "create" man? Just curious, since the video brought up evolution about the time I decided to put it on the back burner. I won't think any less of you if you do!

Steve

G_d Bless you and yours through His Shabbat today BAKATCHA!

NO, i have never thought G_d needed to use evolution to create anything. The Word of God is all in all, and today all is upheld by the word of His power even as He created all things.

Every thing is devolving, not evolving. He made it that way.

Just because some so confuse themselves to think bad is good, white is black, up is down and so on, do not count me as one who professes to be wise, only to become a fool.

Evolution calls scripture a lie in principle.

Just because i find a petrified trove of different orbs: ball bearings, baseballs, basketballs, beach balls, etc, does not mean they evolved from one another, does it?

If there is an explosion in a junk yard, and after the smoke cleared, there stood a Boeing 747, would you sail the friendly skies in it?

Me neither.

Timmy

[Funky1096]

"Evolution calls scripture a lie in principle."

Yes it denies God meant "day" it puts words in or takes then out. I actually have an interesting collection of verses for those who beleive in the gap and don't beleive in evolution. And beleive in a literal 7 day creation and yes it's all possible/Biblical.

[Timmy]

"Evolution calls scripture a lie in principle."

Yes it denies God meant "day" it puts words in or takes then out. I actually have an interesting collection of verses for those who beleive in the gap and don't beleive in evolution. And beleive in a literal 7 day creation and yes it's all possible/Biblical.

Just the reference points would be nice to study.

What is the gap?

[Funky1096]

The gap itself is a theory that something happened between genesis 1:1 and 1:2. There's the Biblical gap and the evolutionist gap.

I should make a new thread if we are too discuss this.

[Rose]

"Evolution calls scripture a lie in principle."

Yes it denies God meant "day" it puts words in or takes then out. I actually have an interesting collection of verses for those who beleive in the gap and don't beleive in evolution. And beleive in a literal 7 day creation and yes it's all possible/Biblical.

Hi Funky1096,

By saying "Evolution calls Scripture a Lie" you are in effect saying that instead of all of nature declaring the truth of god's existence, it is declaring the falsehood of what the Bible teaches. I wholeheartedly agree, that at every turn evolution declares that the words of the Bible are WRONG because they are in direct contradiction to what all of nature declares. If a creator does exist it most certainly is NOT the god spoken of in the pages of Scripture. Everything science discovers regarding the origins of the universe and life are contrary to the beliefs of the primitive men who authored the Bible.

All the best,
Rose

[Ps 27:1]

G_d Bless you and yours through His Shabbat today BAKATCHA!

NO, i have never thought G_d needed to use evolution to create anything. The Word of God is all in all, and today all is upheld by the word of His power even as He created all things.

Thanks Timmy,

You know with my old timer's disease and in light of some of your recent videos, I wasn't sure. Thanks for spelling it out plainly for this duffer. I thought when I was linking the Walter Veith videos that you were in agreement then. I guess I got confused. Isn't hard for me to do.

Just because i find a petrified trove of different orbs: ball bearings, baseballs, basketballs, beach balls, etc, does not mean they evolved from one another, does it?

Good one. I've used the analogy of making a chair and table from the same tree. Or, in my Geometry classes I would often times use origami to illustrate definitions, properties, and yes, even theorems. Most of the students loved it since they are visually and kinetically oriented. Now just because I use the same first 5 or so folds to get a box or a bird, doesn't mean if I leave the box over spring break I will be greeted by a bird. If I were, it would be logical to assume someone was in my room playing around.

If there is an explosion in a junk yard, and after the smoke cleared, there stood a Boeing 747, would you sail the friendly skies in it?

Me neither.

Timmy

Steve

[Rose]

The gap itself is a theory that something happened between genesis 1:1 and 1:2. There's the Biblical gap and the evolutionist gap.

I should make a new thread if we are too discuss this.

The difference between the biblical gap and evolutionist gap is that the biblical gap can never be filled or bridged because it is frozen in the age of primitive men and their primitive god; whereas the evolutionist gap is continually shrinking as new evidence and discoveries are found to fill out our knowledge and understanding of how the universe was formed.

All the best,
Rose

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi Funky1096,

By saying "Evolution calls Scripture a Lie" you are in effect saying that instead of all of nature declaring the truth of god's existence, it is declaring the falsehood of what the Bible teaches. I wholeheartedly agree, that at every turn evolution declares that the words of the Bible are WRONG because they are in direct contradiction to what all of nature declares. If a creator does exist it most certainly is NOT the god spoken of in the pages of Scripture. Everything science discovers regarding the origins of the universe and life are contrary to the beliefs of the primitive men who authored the Bible.

All the best,
Rose

Bingo!

That's exactly what all Christians preach when they oppose the Bible against Reality. They are declaring two things: 1) The Bible is blatantly false and cannot be trusted, and 2) Anyone who believes the Bible is delusional.

That's what happens if you set your religious ideology against the ROCK OF REALITY.

[Funky1096]

Ah the unedifying science vs the Living God debate this subject sucks and yet is amazing.

"By saying "Evolution calls Scripture a Lie" you are in effect saying that instead of all of nature declaring the truth of god's existence, it is declaring the falsehood of what the Bible teaches. I wholeheartedly agree, that at every turn evolution declares that the words of the Bible are WRONG because they are in direct contradiction to what all of nature declares. If a creator does exist it most certainly is NOT the god spoken of in the pages of Scripture. Everything science discovers regarding the origins of the universe and life are contrary to the beliefs of the primitive men who authored the Bible."

No me saying "Evolution calls scripture a lie" I mean literally that XD.

Creation allows us to learn about heavenly things like physical vs spiritual death and dominion.
For example we physically die we have to eat and exercise. If we did not die we would not care about spiritual things we would never get there.
Exact picture of our spiritual life. We must eat and exercise spiritual. We eat and feed by read the word of God. We excercise by testing our knowledge of scripture against other by talking and study.
Would you like more comparison?

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Btw while I have you all looking at this.
I keep seeing a few people call Saturday the holy day or sabbath. What are they talking about....