
Originally Posted by
Rose
You make no sense! The beauty of science is that when it is wrong everyone knows, because experiments don't work and testing fails. When science succeeds, we build rockets and computers that work and cure diseases!
Science is based on God's creation...microbiology, geology, archeology... you named it and therefore without God's creation there is no science. If the scientific foundation is wrong, whatever based on that foundation is wrong. And many scientific theories always changes because their foundations are wrong.
Saying "God did it" gets us nowhere. It doesn't find cures for diseases, it doesn't give us knowledge on how to grow more food, it does nothing. It makes a person dependent on asking god for everything, but getting no answers.
Without God's creations there won't be any medicine to cure. God don't spoon feed us. same as you don't spoon feed your children if not, how are they to fend for themselves when they grew up? Same as the teacher will not give the answers to the questions straightaway to the students as she wants them to research and learn. Know the meaning "Ask and you shall be given, Seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened onto you".
You and David both are totally ignorant of what true equal human rights really are. If loving god and loving your neighbor covers all human rights, then why are women denied equal human rights in the Bible? Why are slaves denied equal human rights in the Bible? Why are homosexuals denied equal human rights in the Bible?
As I have stated dozens of times, all people are human and as such are entitled to equal human rights. The Bible denies people equal human rights for reasons based on race, gender and sexual preference.
There can only be ONE definition of human rights, and that is the rights afforded people
based on the fact that they are human, rights based on anything else would not be considered human rights. The foundation of all morality must be based on equal human rights. Just because everyone doesn't agree that all people should have equal human rights (like Christians) doesn't mean everyone isn't entitled to them.
Correct, but equal human rights is just a dream which is humanly impossible based on all the reasons that I have given.... distribution curve, political, education etc. etc. Better to wait for a more intelligent and powerful force call God to help us solve those problems. Better that we spent time fighting for more achievable human rights goals. Better that both gender work together with their own strengths and abilities for the common good goals.
No, my concept of equal human rights is not wrong! It is you who does not think homosexuals should have equal human rights, and I know you are intelligent enough to know that homosexuals are just as human as you or I!
Same as I would put to you that that rapists, molesters, pedophiles, murderers should have equal human rights because they are humans right? They should have the freedom to do what they think is right, right?
Having children is not a requirement for having a sexual relationship or marriage. If every heterosexual couple on the planet decided
not to have children, our species would soon go extinct ... so what? The only reason people should have children is because they want to enjoy them, NOT because they want to keep the human race from going extinct.
You are contradicting yourself. You said "children is not a requirement for marriage yet.. they want to enjoy them"
. If humans want to go extinct then rape is justified to ensure that humans will not go extinct.
Loving god and loving their neighbor did not give equal human rights to any of the women, or the slaves in the Bible. No where in the Bible does it say that ALL PEOPLE ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL, no matter how much they love god.
Neither did the Bible said ALL PEOPLE ARE BORN UNFREE AND UNEQUAL. Many of the inequalities you saw in the Bible are due to evil or ignorant men abusing their powers. Slavery was a job which some people seek knowing the risks and responsibilities same as soldiers or prostitutes. They should be given the freedom to choose the jobs they want....right?
People can be punished for their crimes without imposing the death penalty. I have already explained to David the reason I am opposed to capital punishment, it is not worth the risk of an innocent person being put to death.
Then where is the justice? Would you be satisfied supposing the murderer who murdered your husband and children get away with a light sentence or better still, go scot free with an apology?
You have it backwards. First, a foundation of equal human rights must be laid, so people have something to build upon. The problem with the Bible is that is does not give equal human rights to people, so men take advantage of that and deny people their rights.
The Bible simply shows us that human rights is not equal human rights but equal opportunities for all to work together using their strengths and abilities for common goods; this is what is meant by love thy neighbor as thyself....I helped you because of brotherly love and I expect you to help me with brotherly love in return....This is equal human rights.
God Bess.
Ask and You shall receive,
Seek and You shall find,
Knock and the door will be open unto You.
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