John!
Where you been? I've missed our excellent discussions. Glad you found time for a visit.
The term "quote mining" is usually used to speak of the fallacious use of quotes taken out of context. I agree that finding quotes can be like looking for rare gold and silver. For example, I love the quote from Voltaire "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." I think that's great.
But when quotes are taken out of context to make it look like an author was saying the opposite of what he believes and said elsewhere, then it is a "high crime" of internet debate. Do you agree?
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Richard
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NOWHERE in the Bible, does it say,"The Earth is flat".
In Isaiah 40:22, it gives a general outline of Earth as seen from outerspace... a CIRCLE.
In Psalm 103:12, it says,"As far as the east is from the west, so, far has He removed our transgressions from us".
Since God's forgiveness places our sins at the bottom of the sea, so that God will remember them no more. Ps.103:12 is giving an analogy of the distance between east from the west as being infinite. But, the distance of the east from the west cannot be infinite if it's flat... only if it's a sphere.
Job 26:10 says, if we look over the ocean's horizon, we'll see a circular horizon, or a curve on its horizon, which I've seen. A flat Earth would not show a circular horizon... but, a sphere would.
When the Bible talks of the 4 corners of the Earth... that's the 4 directions of South, North, East, West.. Also, when the book of Matthew says, that Jesus saw all the kingdoms of the Earth from a high mountain, which Satan took Him there to be tempted... that was a VISION, not physical reality.
The Bible does NOT say, the Earth is flat. But then again, haters of the Bible will continue to hate and lie about what the Bible actually says.
Tell everyone that quote-mining is stupid, whether it be the President or the Pope! It proves nothing but the ignorance of the person doing the mining.
Taking things out of context is something Christians do all the time with the Bible to try and cover up all the horrific, immoral actions of its god!
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I don't think you understand the meaning of "quote mining" or the reason "quote mining is for morons."
Accurately quoting folks in a way that accurately represents what they really meant is never quote mining. Quote mining is the attempt to mislead your audience by quoting out of context so as to give a false impression of what your opponents actually believe. Creationists are famous for quote mining in their effort to create the false and misleading impressions about what leading evolutionary scientists really believe.
There is no need for an atheist to "quote mine" because the best case against creationistism is to accurately quote what they wrote in context so that everyone can see what they really meant so their arguments fall under the weight of their own absurdity.
Here it is in a simplified nutshell:
Creationists tend to "quote mine" because the truth does not support their arguments so they must misrepresent their opponents.
Atheists do not need to "quote mine" because the truth supports their arguments and the absurdity of the creationists claims is most obvious when they are accurately quoted.
- Skepticism is the antiseptic of the mind.
- Remember why we debate. We have nothing to lose but the errors we hold. Who but a stubborn fool would hold to errors once they have been exposed?
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