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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Yes, God created the endocannabinoid system and the endorphine system for some purposes, let's give thanks to God. But that does not mean we can abuse cannabis and morphine. In fact, almost any vegetable is believe to have anti-cancer properties notably carrots, cabbage, brocolli, soya bean etc. and yet vegetarians do get cancer. Are you saying that cannabis addicts do not get cancer? Give me a break! Cannabis is never use as a standard in anti-cancer therapy.

    If cannabis have anti-cancer therapy, let's all take cannabis and we will never get cancer....Brilliant! Let's legalize them and get ourselves stoned without fear of committing a crime....Brilliant! And we can sue the doctors for not using cannabis to cure cancer....Brilliant!

    RAM and Rose, are you all cannabis users or former cannabis users? I have asked this question before but receive no reply. If so, that speaks volume as why they supported the use of cannabis in anti-cancer therapy so keenly.

    Thanks God for the endocannabinoid and endorphine system.
    So once again we see that you ignore your own comments and refuse to be rational about the topic we are discussing. I showed that your comment in the previous post directly contradicted the article you quoted, but you don't care enough about your own credibility to even acknowledge your error.

    Your statement that vegetables "have anti-cancer properties ... and yet vegetarians do get cancer" is stupid. The fact that vegetables help prevent cancer does not imply that they are 100% effective. Don't you understand anything?

    Your statement that "If cannabis have anti-cancer therapy, let's all take cannabis and we will never get cancer....Brilliant!" is moronic. No one says that it would prevent all cancers. Why do you write such crap that is so easily refuted?

    Your repeated use of the word "Brilliant" is anything but.

    I don't have to be a cannabis user to support rational laws allowing people the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies and minds anymore than I need to be gay to support equal rights for gays. You really need to learn how to think my friend. It's like your every post is filled with ridiculous errors in both logic and facts, and worse, you never interact with anything anyone says. You rarely if ever admit when you have been proven wrong. PROVEN WRONG! But you don't care. What's wrong with you? Why don't you try to be rational?

    Your statement that "Cannabis is never use as a standard in anti-cancer therapy" is meaningless. Studies have shown that it does inhibit tumor growth. The reason it is not being used is because the government has an irrational policy against it for political reasons. They ignore the science - just like people with religious biases.

    Conversation with you would be a lot more interesting if you tried to be a little more logical.
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    Cannabis has been very beneficial to me....
    There is no doubt in my mind that cancer patients would benefit from taking very small doses an hour before every meal. If nausea sets in after the meal for the patient, then administer another dose.

    Not only does it give one an appettite, but your happy about having an appetite, a feeling of wellbeing. Can only help the miserable situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeder View Post
    Cannabis has been very beneficial to me....
    There is no doubt in my mind that cancer patients would benefit from taking very small doses an hour before every meal. If nausea sets in after the meal for the patient, then administer another dose.

    Not only does it give one an appettite, but your happy about having an appetite, a feeling of wellbeing. Can only help the miserable situation.
    Is that why you call yourself "weeder"?

    I too have found cannabis to be very beneficial in many ways. It stimulates conversation, makes me more open to other people, more sensitive to my feelings and theirs, greatly enhances my creativity, my experience of music, and so on. Here are some excerpts from Carl Sagan's Essay on Cannabis. He found many similar benefits in it. Note that he was the author of over 600 scientific papers and one of the greatest minds of the 20th century:

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Sagan's Essay on Cannabis
    Below are a few citations from an essay that astronomer Carl Sagan wrote in 1969 for Marihuana Reconsidered, a book published by Dr. Lester Grinspoon. At that time Sagan was 35 years old. He continued using cannabis for the rest of his life.

    "The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before. The understanding of the intent of the artist which I can achieve when high sometimes carries over to when I'm down. This is one of many human frontiers which cannabis has helped me traverse."

    "A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint. I have since discovered that professional musicians can quite easily keep many separate parts going simultaneously in their heads, but this was the first time for me. Again, the learning experience when high has at least to some extent carried over when I'm down. The enjoyment of food is amplified; tastes and aromas emerge that for some reason we ordinarily seem to be too busy to notice. I am able to give my full attention to the sensation. A potato will have a texture, a body, and taste like that of other potatoes, but much more so. Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex - on the one hand it gives an exquisite sensitivity, but on the other hand it postpones orgasm: in part by distracting me with the profusion of image passing before my eyes. The actual duration of orgasm seems to lengthen greatly, but this may be the usual experience of time expansion which comes with cannabis smoking."

    "I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate."

    "When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time. Many but not all my cannabis trips have somewhere in them a symbolism significant to me which I won't attempt to describe here, a kind of mandala embossed on the high. Free-associating to this mandala, both visually and as plays on words, has produced a very rich array of insights."

    "The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world."
    People opposed to cannabis are simply ignorant of it's many benefits. They have believed the lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Is that why you call yourself "weeder"?

    I too have found cannabis to be very beneficial in many ways. It stimulates conversation, makes me more open to other people, more sensitive to my feelings and theirs, greatly enhances my creativity, my experience of music, and so on. Here are some excerpts from Carl Sagan's Essay on Cannabis. He found many similar benefits in it. Note that he was the author of over 600 scientific papers and one of the greatest minds of the 20th century:


    People opposed to cannabis are simply ignorant of it's many benefits. They have believed the lies.
    So at last you admitted you are a marijuana user, I guess same with Rose. You should consider yourself lucky for if you are in my country, you will get a hefty fine and imprisonment and even death(500gm and above) for the possession of marijuana. Marijuana may have some medicinal benefits but the evils of marijuana outweighs the benefits. Many families and individuals have been destroyed by the abuse of marijuana. LET'S STOP MARIJUANA ABUSE!.

    Conference Held On The ‘HARM’ Of Marijuana Use
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    On Thursday, representatives from Health Advocates Rejecting Marijuana ( HARM ), spoke to an audience at the conference center at Choctaw Casino in Durant about the danger and prevention of marijuana use. The conference was hosted by the Bryan County Turning point Drug Free Community Coalition and the Wichita Mountains Prevention Network.

    The goals of HARM are “to decrease the accessibility/ availability of marijuana-related paraphernalia and to minimize messages that encourage, normalize or trivialize marijuana use” and “to reduce marijuana use by youth, to lessen the problems associated with the accessibility and use of marijuana by youth and to change the perception that marijuana is harmless.”

    During the conference, the following five policy campaigns were discussed in-depth: head shop policy, retailers policy, special events and outdoor venues policy, dispensaries policy and media normalization. John Byrom, co-facilitator of HARM, and Rebecca Hernandez, a policy co-chair, spoke to the audience about marijuana use in San Diego County, California. In 1996, California passed a law legalizing the use, possession and cultivation of marijuana by patients who possess a “written or oral recommendation” from a physician that he or she “would benefit from medical marijuana.”

    Byrom said he actively protested the law and has been fighting against marijuana use in California ever since. Hernandez became involved working against marijuana use when she was employed at a San Diego high school working with at-risk high school students. She said she saw how drugs and alcohol were negatively affecting their lives and futures.

    “We’re losing a whole generation of kids to drug use,” she said. During the presentation, the team spoke about different initiatives of the organization and how they have worked to stop the prevalence of the glamorization of drug use in society. They showed pictures of clothing, shoes, belts, bags and other items found in major stores in California. Pictures and clips of sound and video were also viewed that showed how HARM has been actively fighting marijuana use in San Diego County.

    Hernandez said, “We need to stand up to the bully. We’re going to lose our nation if we let people like that [advocates of marijuana use] move forward and that’s why we’re sharing what’s going on in California with other states.”

    Byrom urges residents of Southeastern Oklahoma to take a stand against marijuana use and work to prevent its prevalence in the community.

    “You can stop it and that’s what’s great. You can stop it from growing to the point of California and you can be the prevention. You have the ability because it hasn’t taken hold here; it’s nothing compared to California. If you can stop it before it happens, that’s the whole idea of prevention. ”

    According to Gwynn Busby, Wichita Mountains Prevention Network regional coordinator, marijuana use was chosen as a priority issue in Bryan County because of the high rate of admission into treatment with marijuana designated as the drug of choice. Southeastern Oklahoma State University’s arrest records show 100% of drug arrest for students 18 and over at the university had marijuana included with other drugs that were confiscated. Slightly over one-third of the Bryan County Court’s cases are related to marijuana charges. These charges include: possession, intent to sell, cultivate, and paraphernalia.


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    The Health Effects of Marijuana
    Negative Health Effects Are Numerous
    By Buddy T, About.com Guide
    Updated March 05, 2011

    Although legalization activists and many marijuana users believe smoking pot has no negative effects, scientific research indicates that marijuana use can cause many different health problems.
    Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States. When smoked, it begins to effect users almost immediately and can last for one to three hours. When it is eaten in food, such as baked in brownies and cookies, the effects take longer to begin, but usually last longer.

    Short-Term Effects
    The short-term effects of marijuana include:
    •Distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)

    •Problems with memory and learning

    •Loss of coordination

    •Trouble with thinking and problem-solving

    •Increased heart rate, reduced blood pressure

    Sometimes marijuana use can also produce anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.

    Effects on the Brain
    The active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, acts on cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors, but other areas of the brain have few or none at all. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.
    When high doses of marijuana are used, usually when eaten in food rather than smoked, users can experience the following symptoms:


    •Hallucinations

    •Delusions

    •Impaired memory

    •Disorientation

    Effects on the Heart
    Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the heart begins beating more rapidly and the blood pressure drops. Marijuana can cause the heart beat to increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, and can increase even more if other drugs are used at the same time.
    Because of the lower blood pressure and higher heart rate, researchers found that users' risk for a heart attack is four times higher within the first hour after smoking marijuana, compared to their general risk of heart attack when not smoking.


    Effects on the Lungs
    Smoking marijuana, even infrequently, can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, and cause heavy coughing. Scientists have found that regular marijuana smokers can experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers do, including:

    •Daily cough and phlegm production
    •More frequent acute chest illnesses
    •Increased risk of lung infections
    •Obstructed airways
    Most marijuana smokers consume a lot less cannabis than cigarette smokers consume tobacco, however the harmful effects of smoking marijuana should not be ignored. Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers typically inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer, when smoking.

    What About Cancer?
    Although one study found that marijuana smokers were three times more likely to develop cancer of the head or neck than non-smokers, that study could not be confirmed by further analysis.
    Because marijuana smoke contains three times the amount of tar found in tobacco smoke and 50 percent more carcinogens, it would seem logical to deduce that there is an increased risk of lung cancer for marijuana smokers. However, researchers have not been able to definitively prove such a link because their studies have not been able to adjust for tobacco smoking and other factors that might also increase the risk.

    Studies linking marijuana smoking to lung cancer have also been limited by selection bias and small sample size. For example, the participants in those studies may have been too young to have developed lung cancer yet. Even though researchers have yet to "prove" a link between smoking pot and lung cancer, regular smokers may want to consider the risk.


    Other Health Effects
    Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors.

    Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy
    Several studies have found that children born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy exhibit some problems with neurological development. According to those studies, prenatal marijuana exposure can cause:

    •Altered responses to visual stimuli
    •Increased tremulousness
    •Problems with sustained attention and memory
    •Poor problem-solving skills



    May God forgive drug abusers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    May God forgive drug abusers.
    Might there be any use of drugs which is not "abuse"?

    Exodus 30:37-38,
    And the incense that you make, you shall not make for yourselves according to its formula; it shall be holy to you for the Lord.
    Rashi:
    it shall be holy to you for the Lord: That you shall not make it except for My Name.


    Any person who makes anything like it, to smell it[s fragrance], shall be cut off from his people
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    to smell it[s fragrance]: But you may make it according to its formula of your own [ingredients] in order to deliver it to the community. -[from Ker. 5a]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Is that why you call yourself "weeder"?

    I too have found cannabis to be very beneficial in many ways. It stimulates conversation, makes me more open to other people, more sensitive to my feelings and theirs, greatly enhances my creativity, my experience of music, and so on. Here are some excerpts from Carl Sagan's Essay on Cannabis. He found many similar benefits in it. Note that he was the author of over 600 scientific papers and one of the greatest minds of the 20th century:


    People opposed to cannabis are simply ignorant of it's many benefits. They have believed the lies
    Some people will make the same claim for alcohol and the same problems exist with alcohol. For some it is OK, they drink it (as I have done) and it does have a small effect when drunk in moderation. Drink too much and judgment is seriously impaired. Alocohol can become addictive, which is why we have alcoholics. I do not know how the relative statistics stack up comparing alcohol to cannabis for its addictiveness etc.

    What is worrying is that cannabis is not illegal like alcohol is illegal when driving. It is illegal to drive and hold a mobile phone in your hand (even when you are not using it), so why not the same with cigarettes (whatever they are made of).

    It is illegal to "drink and drive" and by that it is meant, that with too much alcohol in the bloodstream, it is illegal to drive. There is no such test to measure the amount of cannabis consumed to determine a safe limit. In the most serious of accidents involving a death, the police might then test for drugs. It is frightening the number of drivers who drive under the influence of cannabis and could be the cause of less serious accidents.

    The big problem people have is lack of moderation and knowing their limits and that is why regulations have to be imposed by the authorities. As there is now a zero tolerance to alcohol when driving in many countries, the same should apply to smoking; including tobacco and cannabis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David M View Post
    Some people will make the same claim for alcohol and the same problems exist with alcohol.
    There is some secret in wine.

    Wine is used to sanctify the sabbath, which is called "kiddush"

    http://www.jewishtreats.org/2009/03/kiddush-wine.html
    Kiddush Wine

    Kiddush is one of the primary components of the commandment to “Remember the Sabbath Day” (Za'chor et Yom Ha'Shabbat- Exodus 20:8), which is the “umbrella” commandment for all of the positive mitzvot of Shabbat. Kiddush is recited over a glass or cup of wine,* as the Talmud (Pesachim 106a) states: “Remember the Sabbath day and sanctify it. ‘Remember' the day over wine.”

    The “fruit of the vine,” as wine is poetically called, is a rare synthesis of nature and Judaism's philosophy of free will. Everything in a person's life can be used for good or for bad. For instance, wealth can be hoarded or used to help others. This is exactly the reason that wine is used for Kiddush. Through drunkenness, wine can easily lead one away from Godliness, so instead we bless it and use it to sanctify God's name. In moderate amounts, wine leads to pleasant happiness. In excess, however, wine can lead to anger, the total loss of inhibition, depression, etc.
    The same might apply to cannabis. But I am not sure.

    One thing for sure, orthodox Jews don't drive cars on Sabbath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    So at last you admitted you are a marijuana user, I guess same with Rose. You should consider yourself lucky for if you are in my country, you will get a hefty fine and imprisonment and even death(500gm and above) for the possession of marijuana. Marijuana may have some medicinal benefits but the evils of marijuana outweighs the benefits. Many families and individuals have been destroyed by the abuse of marijuana. LET'S STOP MARIJUANA ABUSE!.


    May God forgive drug abusers.
    Richard and I are fortunate enough to live in a progressive state (unlike your country) that allows doctors to prescribe marijuana for medicinal purposes, and since you have no clue as to why Richard uses medical marijuana who are you to judge? Your guess is WRONG about me. I am in total support of any medicine that produces results without any side effects, and from first hand knowledge Cannabis works! So, what are you afraid of? That people might feel good from the medication they take. You need to mellow out dude...

    I thought the Chinese were big into herbal medicines, so what's up with all your judgmental comments about the Cannabis herb? Maybe you should do a little research into its many benefits before you do any more "mouthing off". In the 5,000 years of recorded Cannabis use, there has not been one recorded death! Now that's a pretty good track record.

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    What a great testimony!

    Never trust anything you are afraid to question ~

    To know oneself is to know the universe...


    Live Fully...Love Extravagantly...For the sake of Goodness

    Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matt.10:16

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