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    Remains of John the Baptist discovered

    Likely remains of John the Baptist discovered:

    http://www.nationalturk.com/en/remai...bulgaria-19830

    Scientists have uncovered so far a new witnesses that mysterious remains found in an ancient reliquary in a 5th century convent on Sveti Ivan Island in Bulgaria belong to Saint John the Baptist.
    A team of researchers from Oxford University dated the right-handed knuckle bone to the first century, when John the Baptists is believed to have lived until his beheading ordered by king Herod. Scientists have discovered the remains of small fragments of a skull, bones from a jaw and an arm, and a tooth. Residue have been found embedded in an altar in the ruins of the ancient monastery – on the Sveti Ivan island in the Black Sea, Bulgaria.

    Bones of John the Baptist possibly discovered on the Sveti Ivan Island in Bulgaria / video
    Thomas Higham – deputy Director of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit has commented : ’ We were surprised when the radiocarbon dating produced this very early age. We had suspected that the bones may have been more recent than this, perhaps from the third or fourth centuries. However, the result from the metacarpal hand bone is clearly consistent with someone who lived in the early first century AD. ‘

    The another scientists from the University of Copenhagen have analysed the DNA of the bones. Experts said the remains came from a single individual from a family in the modern-day Middle East, where John the Baptist would have lived. They also found enough nuclear DNA to indicate that it was a male.

    Many sites around the world demand to hold relics of the saint, including the Grand Mosque in Damascus which says it has his head. Countries around the Mediterranean claiming to have remains of John the Baptist include Turkey, Greece, Italy and Egypt.

    Bones in Bulgaria may be of Saint John the Baptist
    Christians believe that Saint John the Baptist heralded the arrival of Christ and he baptized Jesus Christus in the River Jordan. According to the Gospels, John the Baptist was put to death by beheading on the orders of the local sovereign, Herod Antipas. He is deliberate a particularly significant figure in the Orthodox Church.

    Turks believe the relics may once have been donated to the monastery by the Byzantine church. The Topkapi Palace museum in Istanbul is one of several sites claiming to house relics purported to be those of John the Baptist.



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    Very interesting. Thanks Cheow.

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    There seems to be a problem. Folks have claimed lot's of different places as the "tomb of John the Baptist" - here's what the wiki says:

    What became of the head of John the Baptist is difficult to determine. Nicephorus[54] and Symeon Metaphrastes say that Herodias had it buried in the fortress of Machaerus (in accordance with Josephus). Other writers say that it was interred in Herod's palace at Jerusalem; there it was found during the reign of Constantine I, and thence secretly taken to Emesa, in Phoenicia, where it was concealed, the place remaining unknown for years, until it was manifested by revelation in 453. However, the decapitation cloth of St. John is kept at the Aachen Cathedral. The Coptic Christian Orthodox Church also claim to hold the relics of St. John the Baptist. These are to be found in a monastery in Lower Egypt between Cairo and Alexandria. It is possible, with permission from the monks, to see the original tomb where the remains were found. An obscure and surprising claim relates to the town of Halifax in West Yorkshire, United Kingdom, where the Baptist's head appears on the official coat-of-arms. A legend first recorded in the late 16th century and reported in William Camden's Britannia accounts for the town's place-name, as 'halig' (holy) and 'fax' (face), by stating that the first religious settlers of the district brought the 'face' of John the Baptist with them.[55]

    Several different locations claim to possess the severed head of John the Baptist. Among them: Umayyad Mosque in Damascus;[56] San Silvestro in Capite in Rome;[57] and the Residenz Museum in Munich, Germany (official residence of the Wittelsbach rulers of Bavaria from 1385 to 1918).[57] Further heads, no longer available, were once held by the Knights Templar at Amiens Cathedral in France (brought home by Wallon de Sarton from the Fourth Crusade in Constantinople), at Antioch in Turkey (fate uncertain), and the parish church at Tenterden in Kent, where it was preserved up until the Reformation.

    The saint's right hand, with which he baptised Jesus, is claimed to be in: the Serbian Orthodox Cetinje monastery in Montenegro; Topkapi Palace in Istanbul;[57] and also in the Romanian skete of the Forerunner on Mount Athos. The saint's left hand is allegedly preserved in the Armenian Apostolic Church of St. John at Chinsurah, West Bengal, where each year on "Chinsurah Day" in January it blesses the Armenians of Calcutta.[58] A crypt and relics said to be John's and mentioned in 11th and 16th century manuscripts, were discovered in 1969 during restoration of the Church of St. Macarius at the Monastery of Saint Macarius the Great in Scetes, Egypt;[59] Additional relics are claimed to reside in Gandzasar Monastery's Cathedral of St. John the Baptist, in Nagorno Karabakh;
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