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  1. #11
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    Nov 2008
    Not from this world...from the other side
    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    Hey there Steve,

    I agree completely that a good diet is important. But it's not a "cure all." For example, Davy Jones was a vegetarian and he dropped dead at 66 last week. And then there's always the famous case of Jim Fixx who thought that running would fix all your health problems, and he dropped dead at 52. And then we have the alternate cases of folks like George Burns who frequently smoked cigars lived to a hundred. We must never forget that our genes play a very important role in such matters.

    That's very interesting, but not surprising. It makes sense that statistically folks who eat better and don't smoke or drink live longer.

    That excuse doesn't work because it suggests that God commanded something that was not good for his people. And besides, the Bible never says that eating meat is bad for you. That's a doctrine inferred from the fact that "originally" God only gave the "green herbs" for food. What does the fall have to do with eating meat? Why would God give "every living thing that moveth" for food if it were something that we shouldn't eat?
    Have you all heard of Daniel's diet? Vegetables and water for ten days, abstain from royal food (mainly meat) and wine and you will look much healthier, younger and better nourished.

    Daniel 1:11 Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah, 12 'Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. 13 Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.' 14 So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days.

    15 At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. 16 So the guard took away their choice food and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.

    Foods to include in your diet during the Daniel Fast

    All fruits. These can be fresh, frozen, dried, juiced or canned. Fruits include but are not limited to apples, apricots, bananas, blackberries, blueberries, boysenberries, cantaloupe, cherries, cranberries, figs, grapefruit, grapes, guava, honeydew melon, kiwi, lemons, limes, mangoes, nectarines, oranges, papayas, peaches, pears, pineapples, plums, prunes, raisins, raspberries, strawberries, tangelos, tangerines, watermelon

    All vegetables. These can be fresh, frozen, dried, juiced or canned. Vegetables include but are not limited to artichokes, asparagus, beets, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, chili peppers, collard greens, corn, cucumbers, eggplant, garlic, ginger root, kale, leeks, lettuce, mushrooms, mustard greens, okra, onions, parsley, potatoes, radishes, rutabagas, scallions, spinach, sprouts, squashes, sweet potatoes, tomatoes, turnips, watercress, yams, zucchini, veggie burgers are an option if you are not allergic to soy.

    All whole grains, including but not limited to whole wheat, brown rice, millet, quinoa, oats, barley, grits, whole wheat pasta, whole wheat tortillas, rice cakes and popcorn.

    All nuts and seeds, including but not limited to sunflower seeds, cashews, peanuts, sesame. Also nut butters including peanut butter.

    All legumes. These can be canned or dried. Legumes include but are not limited to dried beans, pinto beans, split peas, lentils, black eyed peas, kidney beans, black beans, cannellini beans, white beans.

    All quality oils including but not limited to olive, canola, grape seed, peanut, and sesame.

    Beverages: spring water, distilled water or other pure waters.

    Other: tofu, soy products, vinegar, seasonings, salt, herbs and spices.

    Foods to avoid on the Daniel Fast

    All meat and animal products including but not limited to beef, lamb, pork, poultry, and fish.

    All dairy products including but not limited to milk, cheese, cream, butter, and eggs.

    All sweetenersincluding but not limited to sugar, raw sugar, honey, syrups, molasses, and cane juice.

    All leavened bread including Ezekiel Bread (it contains yeast and honey) and baked goods.

    All refined and processed food products including but not limited to artificial flavorings, food additives, chemicals, white rice, white flour, and foods that contain artificial preservatives.

    All deep fried foods including but not limited to potato chips, French fries, corn chips.

    All solid fats including shortening, margarine, lard and foods high in fat.

    Beverages including but not limited to coffee, tea, herbal teas, carbonated beverages, energy drinks, and alcohol.

    May God Blessed our Health.
    Last edited by CWH; 05-03-2012 at 12:56 AM.
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  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    Good points Sir Timotheos.

    I listened to most the video while doing other things and didn't learn anything new.

    The Seventh Day Adventists are an interesting crew. They seem to think that God ordained vegetarianism ... and then commanded priests to eat meat???? And if you worship on Sunday you bear the mark of the beast!

    Religion is the root of all silliness.

    Very nice ... and it fits so well on Spoke 20 of the Bible Wheel, aligned with Dr. Luke's Gospel which focuses on health and healing (Resh KeyWord Rapha). See my article The Great Physician.
    No one knows what the mark of the Beast actually is.

  3. #13
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    Jun 2007
    Yakima, Wa
    Quote Originally Posted by highflyertoo View Post
    No one knows what the mark of the Beast actually is.
    I don't think that is true. Revelation makes it very clear that it is a symbol marking those who are not saved. It is the unbelievers' counterpart to the "Father's name" that is written on the forehead of believers. This is confirmed by the fact that the mark of the beast and the mark on believers appear together within the space of four verses. That's called "context." And it is confirmed again by the OT symbolism that readers of Revelation would have recognized:
    Deuteronomy 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes [forehead]. 9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
    I don't think there is any mystery about the mark of the beast at all. The confusion was created by the incoherent "literal interpretation" promoted by Futurists who don't have half a clue about how to interpret the Bible.
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