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    HOW SKEPTICAL ARE YOU ???

    ARE YOU LISTENING?
    ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING??ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING? ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?


    Timmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    ARE YOU LISTENING?
    ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING??ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING? ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?ARE YOU LISTENING?


    Timmy
    Hi Timmy,

    I AM LISTENING...to all the wonderful sounds of nature, BUT what I also hear are the horrendous sounds of natural disasters that kill hundreds of thousands of people What is God saying then?

    Rose
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    Hey ho, Timmy Oh!

    I'm listening.

    But the wonders of nature don't make me believe in Apollo, Zeus, or Yahweh.

    But I do believe there is a "God" in the sense of "Ground of Being" or "Cosmic Consciousness" or something along those lines. But nature is not "designed" in the way that makes me think there is a "top down designer" like the God of the Bible. That leads to all sorts of confusions about why he helps old ladies find their dog "Fluffy" and Tim Tebow win (and then lose) football games while simultaneously letting 200,000 people die in the Haiti earthquake. In other words, if there is a God who oversees the daily affairs of this world, then his priorities seem to be really messed up.

    And that song ... it doesn't have much of an "edge" to it, does it? A little too saccharine for my taste. But hey! To each his own.

    Rolling on ....

    Richard
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    • Remember why we debate. We have nothing to lose but the errors we hold. Who but a stubborn fool would hold to errors once they have been exposed?

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    Gestern Rose, dann RAM, freundlicherweise Timmy auf diese weise begrüsst "Hi Timmy.I AM LISTENING.....and then RAM chimed in "Hey ho, Timmy Oh!I'm listening."
    Hi there Rose and Richard!
    Have we got a treat for you two; though not only you, but all the kiddies wandering about this acropolis today.It's a song. Don't be shy, because i want to hear everybody: Rose...and you too Richie, and Debbie. . .and...and Ricky and Eddie and Joey and Johnny and Gilbert and everybody else...and even little me...we can all sing along together...

    ...because: DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?
    It's candy coated, but there's no saccharine.

    soooo...WHAT TIME IS IT?
    It's Timmy Time!
    ...and for all of you who think this is silly,
    after we all sing-along foreward,
    those of you who think you are soooo mature
    can sing with me my very own theme song
    backwards.

    First i'm going to sing it to you
    so you can just get a feel for it
    and also hear what i sound like singing,
    and thennnN
    we can sing my very own theme song all together
    Ready to hear me singing it?

    HERE GOES:



    OK, is everyone ready???
    All together now:



    And as promised, we can all now sing it in reverse:


    How's that?

    i hope everybody is happy now.
    If you aren't, just turn that frown upside down
    because we are just beginning.

    Sing it again and again until you learn it really good, then holler for me and we can take it from the top.

    i will have my back turned just for a bit to talk rith R&R, so Ricky, don't pull kathy's pony tails
    ...and Charis'? Please do not spit on the Lotus' feet or Bobby either. Besides, it's not ladylike...
    ...and none of such doings is proper ettiquette
    ...AND YUR MUMS AND DADS WILL BE NOTIFIED IF ANY OF YOU ACT OUT!

    If you all are really good while having this back turned for just a couple of minutes, i have an even more special treat for all of you!

    *Timmy shakes his wool, pats down his seven curly locks with his right fore-side cloven hoof, then turns to face Rose and RAM*

    Ok, Richard and Rose? Now that all the rest of us are occupied, can we talk turkey?

    Perhaps these things might be different than what you might have heard before and maybe not, but you might just be catching a glimpse of some things that just are not even seriously considered by many. Something about life feeds on life might be appropriate; but there is much much so much more to it than that if one dares enter into a place where human reason, through the mystery of paradox, becomes befuddled, then perplexed, then finally silenced just listening to the mysteries behind the veil of the order of the universe. However we choose to percieve the natural world about us, one begins to more than realize it is sooo much more than what physical eyes percieve.

    For the above reasons, your comments will find curt replies to your combined cognitive dissonance, yet it is desired to know why it's chosen choose to say these things in the first place:
    1.What is at the root?
    2. Where have these notions led others?
    3. Where have you come from and where are you going?
    4. Of the things you have said, which ones are originally yours alone, never thought or said by another?
    5. Have you inspected the end results of others who hold fast to these notions?
    6 Are these ideas giving the appearance of liberation only binding one moreso than before they were first adhered to?
    7. Who, in your own estimations, are the ones who are more free than others, to experience their environment without becoming tied to only the physical representations of various aspects of it...
    8. ...and why?

    Answers will be forthcoming, however in the meantime,in lue of the self-serving buffet line being shut down, a veritable smorgasbord of delicious delights are now available just sitting at your table. By just a button-touch with your finger, once engaging The Selectotronu-seeNtaste Tablemaster Serving Guide and Menu Order Dispenser.

    You may be thinking that to be able to see and smell various delectables while walking around the buffet tables serving your self held something of a special and even romantic reminiscient value.

    It's possible, but have you ever asked your selfs, "Who used those serving utinsils before you to dished all those palatable pleasures onto your plate?

    ...and who prepared the food you have chosen to eat?

    Who wrote the recipes...
    ...and who 'improved' on them?

    There are more questions, but let's talk about the magificent varieties of foods and drinks...and OH, the taste tingling desserts those delicacies right there in front of you considered to be better on the buffet line? Why is perpetuated conversations and a touch of the fingertip for food and drinks worse than the self-service buffet lines?

    Just one portion of the above mentioned will be revealed for your consideration. You will now be told about some of the many who have stood around the serving line and reached into the various serving trays before you entered the restaurant...
    ...and in the meanwhile just think of all the many billions who have both served and eaten here. Kaptain Kosmoe'z Delicatessen and Chain Saw Repair Shop was here long before any of us were even twinkles in mommy's and daddy's eyes.

    Well anyway, consider the fact of a long line of mentally challenged handicapped nose-picking diggers from the Helping Hands Special People Daycare Asylum and Camp Special Time have been such wonderful guests here, Yet, we began noting some things that just weren't kosher. The food you have been eating here was finally noted to be unfitting for human consumption after our pre-dinner 'special' guests left this eatery.

    If D.U.M.B.(t.m.), the Department Under Mental Behaviours, and their elite specialist had not investigated these going ons, you probably still would be filling your plates with residual salivary treats from the self service buffet line after they had already finished their evening meals here.

    Some were noted drooling profusely while others with intermittent conversations slobbered all over everything while dishing up yet another plate. This was then reported to D.U.M.B.(t.m.).

    It has since been discovered this exsessive drivel of saliva began when both the special persons day camp and asylum psychoscitzophreneologists would prepare these mentally challenged special people by ringing a Pavlovian bell at the behest of their supervisory commitee when it was time for din din.

    We have revealed nothing of where these special people's fingers had been prior to handing serving utensils and sometimes the food on the self-service tables.
    (The microbiological labratory specialists at D.U.M.B. would have had a field day, as the Department of Human Helath and Services, had they known the full details of where all those fingers had been.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION,

    Timmy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    ARE YOU LISTENING?
    Hey Timmy!

    You really crack me up! I did and I am. I learned to appreciate classical music at an early age because of my dad being a musician. I especially like the first minute with its chord progressions and oboe. My first major in college in 1972 was in music. I wanted to be a french horn player but lacked the discipline to make up for my late start. I had played trumpet in high school and the french horn is a bit harder. Anyway, thank you for posting that. It was inspirational and I liked the usage of Psalm 19. (see sig).

    You really have a gift with words. Are you a writer? Nevermind, I just checked your profile.

    Blessings,
    Steve
    Last edited by Ps 27:1; 02-04-2012 at 06:15 PM.
    May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer. Ps 19:14 (NIV)

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    Hey Timmy,

    This song really grabbed me when I first heard it around 1992. It's best listened to on a good stereo system or at least with headphones and cranked up a bit. At around 1:51 comes the punch. Youtube doesn't do it justice but it is still good. I haven't heard that song in a long time. I don't know what prompted me to go find it, but it sure brought the tears back. What a powerful singer, song, and music.



    Blessings,
    Steve
    May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer. Ps 19:14 (NIV)

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    HOW SCEPTICAL ARE YOU ???

    What a powerful singer, song, and music.
    I really enjoyed this, Steve. Thank you.


    Timmy, I'll be quite glad when there's something fresh on the menu!




    Psalm 40:3
    He has put a new song in my mouth—
    Praise to our God;
    Many will see it and fear,
    And will trust in the Lord.
    16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    Ephesians 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    I really enjoyed this, Steve. Thank you.


    Timmy, I'll be quite glad when there's something fresh on the menu!

    Psalm 40:3
    He has put a new song in my mouth—
    Praise to our God;
    Many will see it and fear,
    And will trust in the Lord.
    Wow, Charisma! Thank you for introducing me to a new group and songs. I really like this from their youtube channel.



    My wife's favorite song from the Larnelle CD is "The Strength of the Lord".



    We especially like the chorus:

    It's not in trying but in trusting
    It's not in running, but in resting
    It's not in wondering, but in praying
    That we find the Strength of the Lord.

    Blessings,
    Steve
    Last edited by Ps 27:1; 02-06-2012 at 05:36 PM.
    May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer. Ps 19:14 (NIV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose View Post
    Hi Timmy,

    I AM LISTENING...to all the wonderful sounds of nature, BUT what I also hear are the horrendous sounds of natural disasters that kill hundreds of thousands of people What is God saying then?

    Rose
    Hi Rose,

    You do not have to accept this, yet this is my answer, and it is not my answer, as this is the answer of my Master,--who has put me in my place a time or two hundred plus--in my own words,--but what about yours--yet these are not my own:
    Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus TheChrist told us, transmitted via Yochanan John and now Timmy:
    I Am the door.
    If anyone enters in by me, he shall be delivered, restored, and preserved;
    And will go in and out [The Door of the sheepfold]
    And find pasture. (5.34/Ps. 23.2)
    The thief only comes to rip-you-off, kill, and destroy.
    I have come that they [the sheep] may have life and abundant life at that.
    I Am the good shepherd.
    The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.


    Ummmm..,

    Timmy


    ...and Richard, are you so staunce in your opinion that you are immovable from your apparent Deistic Naturalism, that you need look no further? What about all the things men or their knowledge (aka:sciences) still cannot explain or all the past errors based on what past intellectually reasonable have misconjectured?

    Does God have to fit into the way you think He is or how you assume Him to be in order to be God? Ya' know, the scribes and pharisees sought from Jesus a sign, even though there were too many given to recount, says John. Jesus told.those knowledgable religious leaders that no.sign shall be given but what?

    ...and since you think you might be figuring everything out according to your plans, i'll leave you to your frenetics, a word from the prophet Yeshua is referred to and appeals through the most, and a song or two...for the moment.

    "From of old, nobody has heard or even perceived with the ear, nor eye has seen a God besides you, who acts for those who wait for him." (Isaiah 64.4)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    Hi Rose,

    You do not have to accept this, yet this is my answer, and it is not my answer, as this is the answer of my Master,--who has put me in my place a time or two hundred plus--in my own words,--but what about yours--yet these are not my own:
    Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus TheChrist told us, transmitted via Yochanan John and now Timmy:
    I Am the door.
    If anyone enters in by me, he shall be delivered, restored, and preserved;
    And will go in and out [The Door of the sheepfold]
    And find pasture. (5.34/Ps. 23.2)
    The thief only comes to rip-you-off, kill, and destroy.
    I have come that they [the sheep] may have life and abundant life at that.
    I Am the good shepherd.
    The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.


    Ummmm..,

    Timmy
    Hello Timmy,

    The answer of your master...found in the pages of Scripture, whose authorship is that of primitive men. It says the thief comes to kill and destroy, yet your master allows this thief to run rampant amongst men. Your master says that he has come to give mankind abundant life, yet at every turn he allows life to be taken away in the most horrendous fashion, when only a word from his mouth would bring forth legions of angels. How can I trust his words?

    Is the green pastures which are found through his door enough to comfort those whose loved ones are suffering in eternal torment by his hand, merely because they missed the door? Where is his justice?

    Somehow your answer leaves me with a sense of bewilderment...what does it mean to lay down ones life for another? Jesus tells us that his father loved him because he was obedient and laid down his life...would there have been no fatherly love if Jesus had not laid down his life?

    Much to think about...


    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    Does God have to fit into the way you think He is or how you assume Him to be in order to be God? Ya' know, the scribes and pharisees sought from Jesus a sign, even though there were too many given to recount, says John. Jesus told.those knowledgable religious leaders that no.sign shall be given but what?

    ...and since you think you might be figuring everything out according to your plans, i'll leave you to your frenetics, a word from the prophet Yeshua is referred to and appeals through the most, and a song or two...for the moment.

    "From of old, nobody has heard or even perceived with the ear, nor eye has seen a God besides you, who acts for those who wait for him." (Isaiah 64.4)


    Do you not realize the perception you have of god is solely derived from the Bible? You have built your conception of the creator of the universe upon the writings of primitive men whose mindset imagined a male warrior god able to protect them and fight their battles. Richard and I are only describing to you the god that is presented to us in Scripture...where else should we find out about his attributes?

    Keep pursuing the truth,
    Rose
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    To know oneself is to know the universe...


    Live Fully...Love Extravagantly...For the sake of Goodness

    Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matt.10:16

    Come let us reason together...Isa.1:18
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