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    Lightbulb Plowing with heifer..

    Precept and Principle, plus Fig.of Speech

    Judges14:18 And the men of the city said unto him [Samson] on the seventh day before the sun went down, What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion? and he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle. (We aren't told in so many words, but we know he's saying they got the info from his wife!).

    "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 16:15-17 (Peter's answer wasn't from a local source; right?)

    And the moral of this story is that you must be careful what you tell your wife! *kidding*

    I remember being very critical of this "riddle", Ju14:14, because it didn't ask a question -- just "Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness". "And they could not in three days expound the riddle". Neither would I have accepted that kind of answer, seems to me, but what say you?
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    Precept and Principle, plus Fig.of Speech

    Judges14:18 And the men of the city said unto him [Samson] on the seventh day before the sun went down, What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion? and he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle. (We aren't told in so many words, but we know he's saying they got the info from his wife!).

    "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 16:15-17 (Peter's answer wasn't from a local source; right?)

    And the moral of this story is that you must be careful what you tell your wife! *kidding*

    I remember being very critical of this "riddle", Ju14:14, because it didn't ask a question -- just "Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness". "And they could not in three days expound the riddle". Neither would I have accepted that kind of answer, seems to me, but what say you?
    There wasn't actually any question asked. The challenge was to "expound" the riddle, and the riddle itself consisted of two statements, not questions. The two questions they asked in response made it clear they understood the riddle's meaning. And the more I look at it, the more it seems like a very poetic way of communicating ... too poetic, like a script that someone wrote (as opposed to an historical record). Most folks can usually sense the difference between a script and extemporaneous speech of historical actuality. I think this is the former.
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    Yeah, I think that way too, RAM. And how the actions of many (not all) Bible Characters seems to fit with how Scripture often seems to be following a SCRIPT.

    The two (2) conflicts (riddle + secret) obtained by persistent wives was what made me originally consider Samson a fool, and a poor excuse for a Judge -- don't think that way now tho..
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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