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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post

    bent kaf = "kaf k'fufah"

    straight, or final, kaf = "kaf z'kufah"

    Psalms 146:8,
    The Lord gives sight to the blind; the Lord straightens the bent; the Lord loves the righteous.

    the Lord straightens the bent = יְהֹוָה זֹקֵף כְּפוּפִים, "hashem zokeif k'fufim"
    Matthew 5:5,

    μακάριοι οἱ πραεῖς, ὅτι αὐτοὶ κληρονομήσουσιν τὴν γῆν

    Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

    κληρονομέω = to receive a lot, receive by lot

    κλῆρος= 1) an object used in casting or drawing lots, which was either a pebble, or a potsherd, or a bit of wood 2) what is obtained by lot, allotted portion

    = Hebrew "goral" = grail (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post

    = Hebrew "goral" = grail (?)

    interesting interpretation of Daniel 12:13!

    And you, go to the end, and you will rest and rise to your lot at the end of the days.

    to your lot: to receive your portion with the righteous.


    "goral" - gematria 233, like of "etz hachayim"= tree of life.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvius View Post
    the Nazi's were very much in search for the holy grail, i.e. the stone fallen from Lucifer's crown:

    From "Luzifers Hofgesind" by Otto Rahn;
    The Wewelsburg: the Nazi Grail Castle

    It is said that the Wewelsburg was going to be the ?Grail Castle? of the Nazi regime, once it had established itself as rulers of the world. Is this true, and, if so, what was their ambition in this vast building project?

    It is clear that any Grail Castle to be built would have a geometrical design, and in the case of the Wewelsburg, that is a triangle. For Himmler, the Wewelsburg was not so much the location where the Grail was hidden, but where his Grail Order ? the SS, the Schutzstaffel ? and its sacred treasures ? rumoured to be the Spear of Destiny ? would be brought, and from which the magical power of the Nazi regime would radiate out.
    The castle was not built by the Nazi regime; its history started several centuries before the National Socialists came to power in 1933
    It is very near to where I do live

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    Italies's dictionary suggests a relationship between "goral" and "regel", foot

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    הילל בן שחר

    [QUOTE=Richard Amiel McGough;31331]The name "Lucifer" is not found in the Septuagint. It came from the Latin Vulgate:
    Isaiah 14:12 quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes
    The word "lucifer" is the Latin name of the planet Venus, aka the "morning star" known either as Eosophorus (bringer of the dawn) or Phosphoros (bringer of the light) in Greek. We find the word lucifer again as a title of Christ in the Latin Vulgate:
    VUL 2 Peter 1:19 et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
    This verse tells us to wait until LUCIFER rises in our hearts!

    We have discussed these precise verses with a Jewish friend of mine in the past and it certainly doesn't make sense that the satan would be an exact homonym of The Messiah.
    There is a problem with translation for sure, as the Italian saying goes: "traduttore, traditore" (translator, traitor) or even more clearly stated in Hungarian "forditas, fedites" (translation, distortion). However, the discussion was centered in the fact that Scripture is full of puns, and in the end times, The Messiah and the anti-messiah will be very similar (like the two quasi-identical goats of Yom Kippur), so much that many will be deceived and will choose the worker of evil, just as when Yeshua Bar Abba and Yeshua bar abbas were put in fron of the people, they were "similar", the innocent one was supposed to be sacrificed for the whole congregation of Israel, and the one full of sin, was sent away. So that could be an explanation of why the nominatives (I wouldn't say names either) are so similar for both.

    Anyhow, it is necessary to take into account what is said about the satan in other places so it can be understood what is the nature of such a being.
    This is a short excerpt of what my friend wrote in her book The Gate of Heaven and her interpretation of how the verse reads directly from the Hebrew.
    Keep in mind that Hebrew has root words of three letters so שחר and שחור are related in meaning and form.

    Here it is:

    The enemy, satan is one of the Cherubim, he knows the location of the Mountain of YHVH! satan is not only a fallen angel but a fallen Cherub.
    satan was one of the cherubim in God?s Holy Mount and seeks to possess the Holy Mountain, and being there he will declare himself ''god''.

    Ezekiel 28:14:
    in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
    Ezekiel 28:16: ?therefore I will cast you as a profane thing OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD: and I will destroy you,
    O COVERING CHERUB, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    satan was on God?s Holy Mountain and God cast him out (Isa 14:12, Rev12:9, Luke 10:18, Ezk 28:16, Gen 3:14), since then,
    satan has been trying to possess the Holy Mountain.

    Ezekiel 28:18: ?You have defiled your sanctuaries?
    From the beginning satan, the fallen cherub, said: I will put my throne on God?s APPOINTED MOUNT!

    Isaiah 14:12-13:
    How you are fallen from heaven, Hillel Ben Shachar! (The praiser son of dawn/darkness ? הילל בן שחר)
    How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven;
    (ואַָתּה אַָמְרָתּ ִבְֽלָבְבךָ ַהָשַּׁמיִם ֶאֱעֶלה ִמַמַּעל ְלכוְֹכֵבי־ֵאל אִָרים ִכְּסִאי ְוֵאֵשׁב ְבַּהר־מוֵֹעד ְּביְַרְכֵּתי ָצפוֹן׃ )
    I WILL SIT ON THE APPOINTED MOUNT! in Hebrew it says: I will sit on ?Har Moed?, ?The Appointed Mount?.

    That is just an excerpt but it is important to highlight that the verse says nothing about a "morning star" (כוכב הבוקר), the satan is referred to as The praiser son of dawn/darkness ? הילל בן שחר)

    OK, sorry for the long reply.
    I hope it is of some use.

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