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    evidence for giants nephilim rephaim anunaki part 1 Gilgal photo


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    Very interesting gilgal. I believe as Genesis states that in the year of Peleg the earth was divided. Peleg being the Hebrew word for divided. I believe that the earth was shaken from its foundation and we lost our perfect weather. I believe also we have lost the full usage of our mental capacity. Albert Enstein was said to use 12% and most folks just use 8-10%. I think that is the reason we do not understand how stones that large could be used to build. I believe to some extint in the gap theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memukan View Post
    Very interesting gilgal. I believe as Genesis states that in the year of Peleg the earth was divided. Peleg being the Hebrew word for divided. I believe that the earth was shaken from its foundation and we lost our perfect weather. I believe also we have lost the full usage of our mental capacity. Albert Enstein was said to use 12% and most folks just use 8-10%. I think that is the reason we do not understand how stones that large could be used to build. I believe to some extint in the gap theory.
    I think that big circular arrangement of stones is very interesting - cuz I like concentric circles, I guess.

    But the flood story is almost certainly a myth (like the parables Jesus taught), and if not, then local. There is no evidence of a recent world wide flood, so "geologically informed" Christians have long given up on that.

    As for the "brain usage" thang - that is a false urban legend. Snopes debunked it. It should have been pretty obvious anyway - the invocation of the iconic genius "Einstein" should have given it away.

    And finally, the gap theory has no foundation in the Bible. It seems really really strange that folks would want to invent and insert millions of years of undocumented history into the "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2.

    Thanks for the stimulating ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    I think that big circular arrangement of stones is very interesting - cuz I like concentric circles, I guess.

    But the flood story is almost certainly a myth (like the parables Jesus taught), and if not, then local. There is no evidence of a recent world wide flood, so "geologically informed" Christians have long given up on that.

    As for the "brain usage" thang - that is a false urban legend. Snopes debunked it. It should have been pretty obvious anyway - the invocation of the iconic genius "Einstein" should have given it away.

    And finally, the gap theory has no foundation in the Bible. It seems really really strange that folks would want to invent and insert millions of years of undocumented history into the "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2.

    Thanks for the stimulating ideas!

    Richard
    Giants' bones discovered:
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    Gilgal! How could you fall for those faked skeletons?

    Come on man - where are they? In what museum can they be viewed?

    Just look at the headline - it's the kind of junk CRANKS have been propagating for years:

    "Science proves Bible fact! - Science proved WRONG - So called MYTHS PROVED REAL"

    Why are Christians so gullible that they can believe unsupported crackpot assertions that claim to "prove science wrong"? I'll tell you four most obvious reasons:

    1) Christians are in general completely ignorant of science.

    2) Christians are constantly being taught by "pastors" to be ANTI-INTELLECTUAL and to mistrust Science.

    3) Hucksters know they can make a quick buck off gullible Christians.

    4) Christians have been taught that BLIND FAITH is a VIRTUE. This makes them very very gullible. Christians who ask the "hard questions" are rejected by other Christians as not having "faith."

    All the best,

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    A little research quickly turned up the source of the fake pictures. They've been circulating on the net (like a thousand other HOAXES) for years. Here is a complete explanation:

    EXPOSING THE CROOKS BEHIND THE HOAX

    The article explains how the pics were entered in an IMAGE MANIPULATION contest (e.g. Photoshop). See an example here.

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    Gilgal! How could you fall for those faked skeletons?

    Come on man - where are they? In what museum can they be viewed?

    Just look at the headline - it's the kind of junk CRANKS have been propagating for years:

    "Science proves Bible fact! - Science proved WRONG - So called MYTHS PROVED REAL"

    Why are Christians so gullible that they can believe unsupported crackpot assertions that claim to "prove science wrong"? I'll tell you four most obvious reasons:

    1) Christians are in general completely ignorant of science.

    2) Christians are constantly being taught by "pastors" to be ANTI-INTELLECTUAL and to mistrust Science.

    3) Hucksters know they can make a quick buck off gullible Christians.

    4) Christians have been taught that BLIND FAITH is a VIRTUE. This makes them very very gullible. Christians who ask the "hard questions" are rejected by other Christians as not having "faith."

    All the best,

    Richard
    ...Because I haven't seen them exposed as a hoax! Thanks. But have there been any real discoveries? What about Goliath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    I think that big circular arrangement of stones is very interesting - cuz I like concentric circles, I guess.

    But the flood story is almost certainly a myth (like the parables Jesus taught), and if not, then local. There is no evidence of a recent world wide flood, so "geologically informed" Christians have long given up on that.

    As for the "brain usage" thang - that is a false urban legend. Snopes debunked it. It should have been pretty obvious anyway - the invocation of the iconic genius "Einstein" should have given it away.

    And finally, the gap theory has no foundation in the Bible. It seems really really strange that folks would want to invent and insert millions of years of undocumented history into the "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2.

    Thanks for the stimulating ideas!

    Richard
    Hi Richard,

    But the flood story is almost certainly a myth (like the parables Jesus taught), and if not, then local.
    In the parables that Jesus taught they did not give specific dates, times, and other historical information. They were more generic like a certain man went on a long journey....etc. However the Genesis flood account provides specific times as how long it lasted, names of people involved (Noah etc) and other historical information. To me it reads more like history. Am I missing something?

    There is no evidence of a recent world wide flood, so "geologically informed" Christians have long given up on that.
    One of the basic principles of modern geology theory is "uniformitarianism", that is, the processes we observe today have gone on throughout geological history. So they interpret all evidence based on that assumption. They give no room for a worldwide catastrophic event that could have shaped the earth's geology. So their conclusions are based on the foundation assumption of uniformitarianism.

    And finally, the gap theory has no foundation in the Bible. It seems really really strange that folks would want to invent and insert millions of years of undocumented history into the "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2.
    I think the gap theory is a very plausible assumption. There is nothing in the Bible that disproves it. Since we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old there was a large intervening gap between when God created the heavens and earth in Gen 1:1 and when God began to fashion and shape the earth to support life in Gen 1:2 and later. As far as "undocumented history" goes it is really not undocumented geologically since we can go back millions of years into earth history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clifford View Post
    Hi Richard,



    In the parables that Jesus taught they did not give specific dates, times, and other historical information. They were more generic like a certain man went on a long journey....etc. However the Genesis flood account provides specific times as how long it lasted, names of people involved (Noah etc) and other historical information. To me it reads more like history. Am I missing something?



    One of the basic principles of modern geology theory is "uniformitarianism", that is, the processes we observe today have gone on throughout geological history. So they interpret all evidence based on that assumption. They give no room for a worldwide catastrophic event that could have shaped the earth's geology. So their conclusions are based on the foundation assumption of uniformitarianism.



    I think the gap theory is a very plausible assumption. There is nothing in the Bible that disproves it. Since we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old there was a large intervening gap between when God created the heavens and earth in Gen 1:1 and when God began to fashion and shape the earth to support life in Gen 1:2 and later. As far as "undocumented history" goes it is really not undocumented geologically since we can go back millions of years into earth history.
    Flood: It's the first time I hear the flood may not be worldwide. But the only survivors were 8 people!

    The length of days: What I wonder is how a day can be measured if there was no sun, nor moon and stars from the first day? Strange that there was light but no sun. Strange that the vegetation grew with that first light and not by the sun. I don't think I can set a specific time, if there is no orbit of the earth in its' own axis nor sun...it may be 24 hours long or a thousand years long.

    Light and darkness: but even though God created light he let darkness have its' time of reign as well. Night and day were the -th day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clifford View Post
    In the parables that Jesus taught they did not give specific dates, times, and other historical information. They were more generic like a certain man went on a long journey....etc. However the Genesis flood account provides specific times as how long it lasted, names of people involved (Noah etc) and other historical information. To me it reads more like history. Am I missing something?
    Hey there Clifford,

    When I said "like the parables that Jesus taught" I did not mean "identical to those parables." The obvious difference being such as you noted. I mentioned the parables to remind us that the Bible uses non-literal forms of communication. Now I grant that statements like "on the 17th day of the second month" certainly sound "literal" but then again, so does "and there was evening, and there was morning, the first day." But are the days of Genesis literal 24 hour days? I certainly do not believe so.

    I feel that we are forced in this direction is because to my knowledge, there is no way there could have been a global flood in the last six or seven thousand years. I'm stuck with what appears to be pretty solid facts. The reasons are given below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clifford View Post
    One of the basic principles of modern geology theory is "uniformitarianism", that is, the processes we observe today have gone on throughout geological history. So they interpret all evidence based on that assumption. They give no room for a worldwide catastrophic event that could have shaped the earth's geology. So their conclusions are based on the foundation assumption of uniformitarianism.
    I've heard that before, but I'm not sure how it helps us understand the idea of a global flood. The most obvious problem is the distribution of animals. Why does Australia have kangaroos? How did they get there after the flood just a few thousand years ago? Did they hop from Mount Ararat? Why does all the evidence point to them evolving there on that continent over millions of years? Folks have collected up lists of the problems with the flood and they seem insurmountable to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clifford View Post
    I think the gap theory is a very plausible assumption. There is nothing in the Bible that disproves it. Since we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old there was a large intervening gap between when God created the heavens and earth in Gen 1:1 and when God began to fashion and shape the earth to support life in Gen 1:2 and later. As far as "undocumented history" goes it is really not undocumented geologically since we can go back millions of years into earth history.
    Unfortunately, that doesn't help with the problem of the flood which happened after the gap (if it existed).

    Great chatting,

    Richard
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