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  1. #401
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    Jesus said that the 'sign', would be the 'Sign of Jonah'.
    This included Jesus being in the Grave for three full days and three full nights.
    But it also included Jonah going through the city of Nineveh for forty days.
    The men of Nineveh repented. Most of The men of First Century Judea did not repent in the 40 years given to them to do so.

    For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here? (Matthew 12:38?41).

    40days of going through Nineveh. "This Generation", a Generation is 40 years. From the Crucifixion until The destruction of The People, The Place, and The Law (Mosaic) was 40 year.... ie? AD 70.
    Very interesting Brother Les.

    It reminds me of the date 7/17/2019, symbolic of the crucifixion of Jesus.

    • 7/17/2019 + 3 days = 7/20/2019


    This is as 5/14/1948 -> 7/20/2019 = 25999 days.

    Daniel 12:12 (KJV) -- Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
    Verse #25999 (Ch. #997) -- 19 words, 107 letters -- Total = 13766
    Then 7/20/2019 + 40 days = 8/29/2019.

    I'm reminded by the fact that the third largest gematria total in the Bible is the 27917th verse.

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    999,999 people out of every million would say that Jesus, in the verses following verse 3,
    without any doubt whatsoever, is clearly talking about his glorious return,...his second advent,
    not his resurrection, and this becomes quite clear by the end of the chapter{Matt.24).
    Almost every sign we can think of is mentioned...except..."The Sign of Jonah"{his resurrection).
    Are you saying that Jesus is trying to deceive all of these people into thinking that he's referring
    to events in the very distant future, when in fact he was really referring to his crucifixion and
    resurrection later that year when he answered the disciples question? That would be pretty weird!
    As hard as i try to believe that you're right, i just can't, and i feel silly trying to do so!
    The crucifixion that took place 33 years after the 483 years were completed, was indeed
    a spectacular event, but again, it was 33 years after the 69 weeks of years were completed, so
    it would not be a 40 year generation to 70 AD, but 73 years, just like 1948 + 73 years is 2021.
    The events of 70 AD, and his resurrection close to the halfway point of the 73 years, could, at best,
    be some kind of representation of the events he was explaining to his disciples in Matthew 24.
    The digits of Pi as i've shown, prove preterist's wrong, but for the sake of arguement, im sure we
    can just agree that they, at least, strongly defend the interpretation that he is referring to his
    glorious second coming and the spectacular events leading up to it!
    Last edited by Scott; 12-22-2020 at 07:24 PM.

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    All the talk I see of this "years" is highly foolish. People should take the verses at their face value and use logic. The verses say "days", and this is the primary point of what can be seen.

    And Scott, as for your looking at your digits of Pi, it needs some work. It's highly disjointed.

    Believe that the important part we can get from the scripture is what is symbolic, and one should not be concerned with the "Second Coming" of Jesus.

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    The digits of Pi were not created by me they were created by God, therefore
    they are not disjointed, maybe your heart and brain is, but not the digits of Pi!
    The last thing you wrote is most likely the root of your delusion concerning the
    70th week of years, and many other things as well i'm sure!
    Last edited by Scott; 12-23-2020 at 02:05 PM.

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    The digits of Pi were not created by God, they are a concept of logic. The Creator is aware of it.

    I would like to see a reform of the logic of the researchers using this forum.

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    During his ministry, and before the cross the Lord was indeed already King, and told Pilate so; only, Now
    My Kingdom is not hence, not of this world.
    He was already King by right, but not yet in fact. For this there were "times and season", he told the
    Apostles in Acts 1:7, and these "The Father hath set within his own authority."
    At the Ministry there is a Messiah, and one specification is met, and the other specification is wanting.
    But if the Kingdom contemplated in prophecy is not as accepted of men on earth, but as bestowed of
    God in Heaven, then the Ministry and The Cross are too late for it, just as for the other case they are too early.
    For there is in the Book of God a definite point in time when in accordance with the mind of God The Lord Jesus
    is declared to be King.
    In Luke 26-33 the angel Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God, was "sent from God" to say to Mary that
    The Lord Jesus "shall be great, and called the Son of The Most High (The Messiah), and The Lord God shall give Him
    the throne of his father David, and he shall Reign over the house of Jacob unto the ages, and of His Kingdom shall
    be no end".
    Son of God---Messiah; shall reign---Prince.
    Gabriel, the same Gabriel who 483 years before told Daniel of a Messiah Prince, now tells Mary that the one
    born of her, shall be called Messiah, and shall be The Prince.

    Gabriel delivers his message to Daniel a year before the 483 years begin. He delivers his message to Mary
    a year before they end.
    Accordingly The New Testament begins with the geneology which entitles Him to be the promised Prince, the one
    who has a right to the Throne of his father David; and this beginning of the New Testament is duly followed by the
    narrative of The Magi. By a miracle specially for them, they are divinely led to inquire for the one whom to them is
    already King from his birth. They ask, "Where is the one born King of the Jew's"? (Matthew 2:2)
    In God's mind The Lord Jesus was already Messiah-Prince at his birth(maybe even conception), and the only
    event meeting the two specifications of a Messiah and a Prince suitible for the end of the 483 years to that personage,
    is the birth of The Lord Jesus, not the Ministry 30 years later, nor The Cross 3 years later still.

    At the time of His Birth Messiah-Prince was expected: expected by Simeon, expected by other faithful watchers
    who were looking for the consolation of Israel. He was not only expected, but sought out by the Magi from the East.
    All these knew the time when to expect Him, and look for Him. But there was only one source from which the exact
    time could be learned: Gabriel's statement as to the 4 8 3 years. To all these watchers and searchers the
    483 years expired at the birth of the Bethlehem babe. David had learned the end of the 70 years from a study
    of "the books" and acted occordingly. Simeon, Anna, and the other watchers, and the Magi learned the end of the
    483 years also by the study of "the books", and acted accordingly. Daniel read his in Jeremiah, Simeon and his
    read theirs in Daniel.
    If the 483 years ended some 30 years later, the watchers at the time of The Child had no warrant for recognizing
    it as the Messiah-Prince. The statement has been seriously made that they knew the Messianic babe because they knew
    that some 30 years later the 483 years were to expire. But apart from the fact that it is nowhere indicated that a
    King must be 30 at his manifestation, such "reasoning" would only equal the folly of propounding it.

    But if either the Baptism or The Cross had met both of the required specifications, they have the fatal defect of not being
    dated. The Lord was indeed 30 at his Ministry which lasted 3 years. But unless The Christ was born at the end of the 483 years,
    we know not from The Bible when the Lord was born; and thus we are ignorant as to when he was 30 or 33 .
    John Baptist's ministry is dated 15 Tiberius, but (1), there is no certainty as to whether his sole reign is meant, or joint reign
    with Augustus. (2) The Bible does not enable us to say when Tiberius began to reign, whether jointly or alone.
    (3) Even if 15 Tiberius could be placed from The Bible data, this would only give the Ministry and The Cross approximately, it
    would not fix their exact date. All that is certain is that John was some 6 months older than The Lord, and that the Ministry began
    during 15 Tiberius or shortly after it.
    Unless , therefore, the end of the 483 years is at the birth of The Lord, we have no dates from The Bible for his birth, nor
    for the Baptism, nor for The Cross, for not a single event for which the prophecies of Daniel were given to be foreknown
    by God's people


    Ivan Panin


    [Page 36, post # 351]

    Scripture says The Prince would be cut off at the completion of 69 weeks(of year's, of course)
    The 33 years Jesus lived as Messiah-Prince, and King on earth, are seen by God as though they happened in a moment,
    or it has something to do with God knowing that there would be at least a 2 0 2 3 year gap(2020) or more, till the
    70th week of year's, or, for both reason's!
    The 69th week{49 + 434 yrs) of years ended with his birth, life,...and, his death on The Cross!

    It was figured out long ago by the greatest christian minds in history, that the 483 represented year's not day's,
    if your new to all of this, don't let anyone trip you up on that one!

    Obvious clue's in scripture went unnoticed by many over the years which led them to establish the wrong end of the 33 yrs,
    as the completion of the 483 year's, which then led to the wrong time for the completion of the 70th week of year's,
    and...the length of a generation according to God's word!

    Thank's to Ivan Panin who presented even more proof for the completion of the 483 year's than what i've shown,
    i'm glad i was able to clear up this matter for you guy's, you've been going in circles chasing your own tails in this thread
    since it began!
    Last edited by Scott; 12-24-2020 at 06:03 PM.

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    Matthew begin's with the geneology of Jesus Christ The Messiah.

    The number of verse's in Matthew, 1 0 7 1 (post # 397)

    The number of verse's in Revelation, 4 0 4

    6 6 6 separates 4 0 4 from 1 0 7 1

    1 0 7 1 digits after the completion of the first occurrence of 2 3 6 8

    is the completion of the first occurrence of 4 8 3


    3 . 1 4 . . . . . . . . . 2 3 6 8(. . . . . .1 0 7 1. . . . . 4 8 3)
    Last edited by Scott; 12-25-2020 at 01:06 AM.

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    Jesus Christ was expected at his first Advent by the Magi and other watcher's!

    What about his second Advent which could be The Rapture of those who have sincerely

    accepted Him as their Savior, and King, who are now the members of his new

    body(Christ being the head of the body which exit's the womb and enters Heaven first),

    which is what the Revelation 12 Sign{1179th Bible chapter) on Sept 23rd 2017 was

    representing!

    "September Twenty Third Two Thousand Seventeen"

    = [ 9 + 2 3 + 2 0 1 7 + 1 1 7 9 ]

    A=6, B=12, C=18.....Z=156

    He's not allowing his new body be subjected to the brutal torture and humiliating

    death his first physical body had to endure for us on The Cross, during

    Satan's first wrath!

    The Rapture is one of the reasons for Christ's crucifixion, it was part of God's plan!

    1 Corinthians 2 : 7, 8, 9

    The people calling on Jesus Christ for the first time right before they are to be

    beheaded, which is why they're being beheaded, are being subjected to Satan's second wrath!

    Salvation at that point, is no longer a Free Gift!
    Last edited by Scott; 12-29-2020 at 03:06 PM.

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    (3 . 1 4 . . . . . 3 1 4 + 2 0 2 1 + 2 0 2 1 position's . . . . . . 2 0 2 1)

    (3 . 1 4 . . . . . 2 0 2 1 + 3 1 4 + 2 0 2 1 position's . . . . . . .2 0 2 1)

    Post # 388


    3 . 1 4 1 5 9

    Again, the second occurrence of 1 4 1 5 9 is immediately followed by the

    first occurrence of 5 7 8 1

    5 7 8 1 is the Jewish year for 2 0 2 1 { Post # 397



    The reverse of 5 7 8 1 is 1 8 7 5

    1 8 7 5 completes it's first occurrence at digit # 9 0 7 3
    5 7 8 1 begin's it's first occurrence right after digit # 6 9 5 9

    9 0 7 3 - 6 9 5 9 = 2 1 1 4

    The two number's cover a span of 2 1 1 4 digits

    2 1 1 4 begin's it's first occurrence at digit # 4 3 5 1
    2 0 2 1 begin's it's first occurrence at digit # 4 3 4 9

    2 0 2 1 1 4
    Last edited by Scott; 01-04-2021 at 11:29 AM.

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    6 6 6
    6 6 6
    6 6 6
    ------
    1 9 9 8 { occurs first starting at digit # 2 9 8 8 8


    This interesting string of digit's follow, making their

    first and only appearance in the first 200 million digits of Pi,

    1 9 9 8 9 5 2 3 6 8 8 4 8 3 0 9 9 9 3

    It's as if HE placed a reverse 3 9 9 9 at the end to assure

    us that the 3 0 9 9 9 connected to 4 8 3

    does in fact represent 3 9 9 9, and

    HE inserts an extra 8 to stress the

    number 2 3 6 8





    The dates(years) Panin derived solely from God's

    word are correct!

    2 3 6 8 was born at the completion of 4 8 3 year's

    in the year 3 9 9 9



    The first 9 5 0 digits of Pi end with the 2nd occurrence of

    the Jewish year for the year 2 0 1 8, Israel's 70th, and are

    followed by, 1 8, and the 3rd occurrence of 5 7 7 8,


    5 7 7 8 1 8 5 7 7 8


    The 3rd occurrence of 6 6 6 in Pi

    begin's right after the first 3 9 9 9 digits, at digit # 4 0 0 0

    4 8 3 + 2 3 6 8 + 4 8 3 + 6 6 6 digits = digit # 4 0 0 0

    4 8 3 + 2 3 6 8 + 6 6 5 + 4 8 3 = 3 9 9 9


    The first occurrence of 2 3 6 8 3 9 9 9,

    the underlined digit 2 3 6 8 3 9 9 9

    is digit # 3 2,2 1 4,1 5 9 {first 5 digits of Pi)

    Number 5 7 8 1 first occurs right after the

    second occurrence of number 1 4 1 5 9



    I checked to see what 4 digit number occurs at digit # 5 7 7 8 to digit # 5 7 8 1

    because it appears to be an important span of time from 2 0 1 8 to 2 0 2 1,

    6 5 8 3 is the number,

    5 7 7 8 + 8 0 5 = 6 5 8 3

    Then i looked for the first occurrence of the number 8 0 5

    and found it connected to the 3rd occurrence of the number 5 7 7 8

    which completes at digit # 9 5 6,

    5 7 7 8 1 8 5 7 7 8 0 5
    Last edited by Scott; 01-08-2021 at 12:56 AM.

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