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gilgal
10-23-2008, 10:51 PM
The book of Zechariah falls on the 16th spoke. Also check this out. I wonder if there is more to this:

2Chronicles 26
3 Sixteen years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.
4 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father Amaziah did.
5 And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God: and as long as he sought the LORD, God made him to prosper.

Richard Amiel McGough
10-24-2008, 08:15 PM
The book of Zechariah falls on the 16th spoke. Also check this out. I wonder if there is more to this:


2Chronicles 26
3 Sixteen years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.
4 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father Amaziah did.
5 And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God: and as long as he sought the LORD, God made him to prosper.


Hey there Gilgal,

That's an interesting link. It is amplified by the fact that Uzziah is mentioned by name in the book of Zechariah:



Zechariah 14:5-6
And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


I have seen similar things in other books. One of the most intriguing examples is the coordinated debut of the Number 14 and the word "Hebrew"- both of which first occur in Chapter 14 of Genesis. Of couse, the Book of Hebrews is on Spoke 14, and it is there that we we learn about Melchizedek who also first appears in Genesis 14. This is an extremely tight matrix of associated meanings.

I'll keep my eyes open for other correlations.

Richard

gilgal
11-15-2008, 06:04 AM
RAM mentioned about this in his articles but there's something more:


Looking for:
run to and fro,,through + the whole earth
2 Chronicles 16
1 In the six and thirtieth year of the reign of Asa Baasha king of Israel came up against Judah, and built Ramah, to the intent that he might let none go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.
2 Then Asa brought out silver and gold out of the treasures of the house of the LORD and of the king's house, and sent to Benhadad king of Syria, that dwelt at Damascus, saying,
3 There is a league between me and thee, as there was between my father and thy father: behold, I have sent thee silver and gold; go, break thy league with Baasha king of Israel, that he may depart from me.
4 And Benhadad hearkened unto king Asa, and sent the captains of his armies against the cities of Israel; and they smote Ijon, and Dan, and Abelmaim, and all the store cities of Naphtali.
5 And it came to pass, when Baasha heard it, that he left off building of Ramah, and let his work cease.
6 Then Asa the king took all Judah; and they carried away the stones of Ramah, and the timber thereof, wherewith Baasha was building; and he built therewith Geba and Mizpah.
7 And at that time Hanani the seer came to Asa king of Judah, and said unto him, Because thou hast relied on the king of Syria, and not relied on the LORD thy God, therefore is the host of the king of Syria escaped out of thine hand.
8 Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host, with very many chariots and horsemen? yet, because thou didst rely on the LORD, he delivered them into thine hand.
9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
10 Then Asa was wroth with the seer, and put him in a prison house; for he was in a rage with him because of this thing. And Asa oppressed some of the people the same time.
11 And, behold, the acts of Asa, first and last, lo, they are written in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel.
12 And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
13 And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.
14 And they buried him in his own sepulchres, which he had made for himself in the city of David, and laid him in the bed which was filled with sweet odorous and divers kinds of spices prepared by the apothecaries' art: and they made a very great burning for him.



Looking for:
run to and fro,,through + the whole earth
Zechariah 4
1 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep.
2 And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.
4 So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord?
5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.
8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.
10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.
11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.

I wonder if the the whole earth has any significance in spoke 16?

Victor
01-16-2009, 11:08 AM
The book of Zechariah falls on the 16th spoke. Also check this out. I wonder if there is more to this:

2Chronicles 26
3 Sixteen years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.
4 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father Amaziah did.
5 And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God: and as long as he sought the LORD, God made him to prosper.


Hey there Gilgal,

That's an interesting link. It is amplified by the fact that Uzziah is mentioned by name in the book of Zechariah:



Zechariah 14:5-6
And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.



Hey, I want to add something here. The Bible Book that presents the largest body of information on Uzziah is Book 14, 2 Chronicles. And the reference to Uzziah in Zecharia is on Chapter 14! That sounds interesting to me.

Victor
01-16-2009, 11:20 AM
Uzziah was first named Azariah in the Bible. There's a short account of his kingship in 2 Kings. There's a very similar association there between the name Zechariah and Spoke 16 just as the one above in the opening post. Check it out:

2Ki 15:8 In the thirty and eighth year of Azariah [= Uzziah] king of Judah did Zachariah the son of Jeroboam reign over Israel in Samaria six months.
This time another "Zachariah" is mentioned (just as in 2 Chronicles 26) in connection with a number on Spoke 16: the Number 38. And that number just happens to be the ordinal position of the prophet going by the same name: Zechariah is Book 38!

We have therefore a triple convergence (2Ki 15:8, 2Ch 26:3-5; Zec 14:5) of the same ideas involving (a) the person of King Azariah/Uzziah, (b) the name of Zechariah and (c) Spoke 16 (numbers 16 and 38)!

Victor
01-16-2009, 11:29 AM
By the way, there's only one occasion in the Bible that people going by the name of Uzziah and Zechariah are mentioned together: in Book 16!



Nehemiah 11:4
And at Jerusalem dwelt certain of the children of Judah, and of the children of Benjamin. Of the children of Judah; Athaiah the son of Uzziah, the son of Zechariah, the son of Amariah, the son of Shephatiah, the son of Mahalaleel, of the children of Perez.

Victor
01-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Note that the title of this thread is "the number 16 and Zechariah". If we search for the word "Zechariah" in the first cycle of the Bible Wheel (Gen-Song), we will find that it appears in the following books:

Book 13
Book 14
Book 15
Book 16

Now let's take the Inner Cycle of 2 Kings. If we search for the word "sixteen" we will find that it appears in the following chapters:

Chapter 13
Chapter 14
Chapter 15
Chapter 16

We have a direct and precise correlation! And please note that both sequences end up in book/chapter 16!

gilgal
01-16-2009, 03:42 PM
Uzziah was first named Azariah in the Bible. There's a short account of his kingship in 2 Kings. There's a very similar association there between the name Zechariah and Spoke 16 just as the one above in the opening post. Check it out:

This time another "Zachariah" is mentioned (just as in 2 Chronicles 26) in connection with a number on Spoke 16: the Number 38. And that number just happens to be the ordinal position of the prophet going by the same name: Zechariah is Book 38!

We have therefore a triple convergence (2Ki 15:8, 2Ch 26:3-5; Zec 14:5) of the same ideas involving (a) the person of King Azariah/Uzziah, (b) the name of Zechariah and (c) Spoke 16 (numbers 16 and 38)!
Wow!

Speaking of 13 -16 I wonder if there's any significance with 10-13 where it spells meleki. Since on the book level there are the book of kings and the pastoral epistles lining up I wonder if the chapters 10-13 in any book bears such high significance as well.

Victor
01-17-2009, 03:13 PM
Wow!

Speaking of 13 -16 I wonder if there's any significance with 10-13 where it spells meleki. Since on the book level there are the book of kings and the pastoral epistles lining up I wonder if the chapters 10-13 in any book bears such high significance as well.

I just started a thread on that subject. It is called Alphabetic Integration with Kingship (Malki) in the Inner Cycle of Joshua (http://www.biblewheel.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=819).

Victor
01-18-2009, 03:07 PM
Interestingly, the link between Books 13-16 and 2 Kings 13-16 above is made possible because the "Zachariah" mentioned in 2 Kings is spelled in the KJV in a way that differs from the standard Zechariah (the Hebrew is the same).

But even if we take the Hebrew the link is still essentially the same, with only a slight difference. Zachariah/Zechariah appears in:

Book 12
Book 13
Book 14
Book 15
Book 16

And "sixteen" appears in:

Book 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 14
Chapter 15
Chapter 16

It is very curious that the only book that mentions "Zachariah" happens to be Book 12 and not some other. It performs the "function" of "chapter 12" in the second sequence above. Book 12 is thus the common fountainhead of the thread uniting Sixteen and Zechariah.

But there's some more. In the posts above we mentioned several joint-occurrences of the names Uzziah and Zechariah. They really seem to often go together! If we search the Bible for these two names within 3 verses of each other, we'll find three alternating Books:


Thread of Uzziah-Zechariah on OT History
1 Kings - 2 Kings - 1 Chronicles - 2 Chronicles - Ezra - Nehemiah - Esther

This a symmetric pattern interwoven in the structure of the Bible.

Victor
01-18-2009, 03:54 PM
A similar pattern is found in the sequence of the last books of the OT and the first books of the NT. If we search for the name Zechariah and its NT spelling, Zacharias, we'll find this word in the Books highlighted red:


Thread of Zechariah/Zacharias in the Second Cycle
Haggai - Zechariah - Malachi - Matthew - Mark - Luke - John


The books of Zechariah, Matthew and Luke speak of different characters, but their names are the same. The Uzziah-Zechariah thread shown on the post above ended on Spoke 16 (Nehemiah). This one picks up on Spoke 16 (Zechariah)!



King Uzziah also appears in this thread! There is Zechariah 14:5 mentioned above (the earthquake "in the days of Uzziah"). And Uzziah is called Ozias in Matthew's royal genealogy of Christ (1:8,9). Uzziah doesn't appear in Luke. But there's an interesting link nonetheless. King Uzziah disobeyed God by offering incense, which was an exclusively priestly duty:

2Ch 26:16 But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.

What about Luke? Strikingly, the Zechariah mentioned there is a priest who offers incense, something that Uzziah was not supposed to do. They form a contrasting, complementary pair.
Luk 1:9 According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot (Zachariah's!) was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.
The highlighted phrases are unique in Scripture. What an amazing thematic tapestry!

gilgal
01-18-2009, 04:38 PM
This is a keylink but I don't know if it's numerically connected:

2 Chronicles 26:16
But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.
Luke 1:9
According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

I mentioned this before elsewhere.
Zacharias means God remembers;
Elizabeth means God's oath.
Putting the two together God remembers God's oath. To see if putting names together and forming a sentence is good:


Luke 1:72
To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
Luke 1:73
The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

Victor
01-18-2009, 04:54 PM
This is a keylink but I don't know if it's numerically connected:

Yes, it is a KeyLink, but of a different kind. They don't connect passages on the same Spoke, but they seem to validate the Zechariah-Uzziah tapestry found in alternating Spokes, viz, Spokes 12, 14, 16, 18 and 20! And I just realized that the tapestry is centered on Spoke 16!

gilgal
01-18-2009, 07:26 PM
Yes, it is a KeyLink, but of a different kind. They don't connect passages on the same Spoke, but they seem to validate the Zechariah-Uzziah tapestry found in alternating Spokes, viz, Spokes 12, 14, 16, 18 and 20! And I just realized that the tapestry is centered on Spoke 16!

So 2 Chronicles 26 has Uzziah (strength) and Azariah, which is his other name and the name of the priest. I checked the combo and found:

Job 26:2
How hast thou helped him that is without power? how savest thou the arm that hath no strength?

Adding to that is the word power.

There is a strong link with Luke and 2 Chronicles though I don't understand the reason since it's not numerically connected.
Luke 1 and 2 Chronicles 26 mention the authority of burning incense of the priests.

Also there is another Zechariah mentioned in 2 Chronicles also mentioned in Matthew 23 (and Luke?) who was slain in front of the altar by Joash in chapter 24.

2 Chronicles 24:22
Thus Joash the king remembered not the kindness which Jehoiada his father had done to him, but slew his son. And when he died, he said, The LORD look upon it, and require it.
This reminds me of Luke because of the word look or behold. Correct me if I'm wrong but look is resh word tight? Then Joash did not remember of Zecheriah's father's Jehoiada's kindness.

Isn't there a double prophecy on this prayer? Luke mentions Cyrenius being governor of Syria and 2 Chronicles 24 mentions the Syrians invading. Wasn't general Titus of the Syrian division? I haven't made my research because I'm tired and it's the end of the day.

Another thing mystery to me is that I checked 2 Chronicles 24 where Zechariah is the son of Jehoiada whereas the Zacarias mentioned in Matthew 23 is the son of Berechias which is linked to Zechariah 1:1 the son of Berechiah.

Victor
01-19-2009, 09:09 AM
A lot of information form a single post! I'll try to break it down.


So 2 Chronicles 26 has Uzziah (strength) and Azariah, which is his other name and the name of the priest. I checked the combo and found:

Another great link. This one goes better in the thread Spoke 4 Ezekiel 28 and 2Chronicles 26 (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=724). I have a cool link to post there too.


There is a strong link with Luke and 2 Chronicles though I don't understand the reason since it's not numerically connected.
Luke 1 and 2 Chronicles 26 mention the authority of burning incense of the priests.

Luke and 2 Chronicles are not numerically connected spokewise. The theme of burning incense in the temple is not found on the same Spoke of the Wheel. But they are connected in the sense that they belong to the same thread that runs through the Spokes. 2 Chronicles is on Spoke 14 and Luke on Spoke 20. They are even Spokes. There is a kind of "Zechariah theme" running through Spokes 12, 14 ,16, 18 and 20. So, instead of it being a KeyLink found across a Spoke like most of those in the interactive Hypertext Bible Wheel (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/HyperWheelFrame.asp), the 2Ch-Luk Link is found woven across alternating Spokes. You can imagine a thread woven into the Wheel by a sewing needle that only shows up in some Spokes/books.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1290/698414998_83d25310e6_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1144/831248594_7131ec9f81_o.jpg

There's for example the case of the word Nineveh that is revealed on alternating Spokes of the Minor Prophets.

http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/NinevehWeaving.gif


God has woven different themes in different ways within the structure of the Bible. It is a majestic tapestry!

gilgal
01-19-2009, 02:26 PM
A lot of information form a single post! I'll try to break it down.



Another great link. This one goes better in the thread Spoke 4 Ezekiel 28 and 2Chronicles 26 (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=724). I have a cool link to post there too.



Luke and 2 Chronicles are not numerically connected spokewise. The theme of burning incense in the temple is not found on the same Spoke of the Wheel. But they are connected in the sense that they belong to the same thread that runs through the Spokes. 2 Chronicles is on Spoke 14 and Luke on Spoke 20. They are even Spokes. There is a kind of "Zechariah theme" running through Spokes 12, 14 ,16, 18 and 20. So, instead of it being a KeyLink found across a Spoke like most of those in the interactive Hypertext Bible Wheel (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/HyperWheelFrame.asp), the 2Ch-Luk Link is found woven across alternating Spokes. You can imagine a thread woven into the Wheel by a sewing needle that only shows up in some Spokes/books.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1290/698414998_83d25310e6_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1144/831248594_7131ec9f81_o.jpg

There's for example the case of the word Nineveh that is revealed on alternating Spokes of the Minor Prophets.

http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/NinevehWeaving.gif


God has woven different themes in different ways within the structure of the Bible. It is a majestic tapestry!

I have an objection to this rule because Zechariah does appear in 1 Chronicles too. So it's not only in the even numbers. It could be related to a numerical value in the text or a numerical value in the sum of the words or phrases?

Victor
01-19-2009, 04:24 PM
I have an objection to this rule because Zechariah does appear in 1 Chronicles too. So it's not only in the even numbers. It could be related to a numerical value in the text or a numerical value in the sum of the words or phrases?

And "Zechariah" appears in Ezra as well! I did a sloppy job when I called it the "Zechariah theme" on my last post. I was just trying to make it simple but the real name should be the "Zechariah-Uzziah theme" like I defined and explained earlier.

People called Zechariah appear in all books from 2 Kings to Nehemiah, but only in alternating books do we find a Zechariah somehow connected to a Uzziah. Here's a recap:


The Zechariah-Uzziah thread

2 Kings: In this book we read that in the 38th year of the reign of Uzziah the northern kingdom of Israel had a new king, Zachariah. (15:8)

2 Chronicles: Here we find that Uzziah became king when he was 16 and that he was taught by a certain Zechariah (26:3-5).

Nehemiah: In Book 16 we read about a Uzziah that was son of a Zechariah (11:4).

That is the thread. "Uzziah" and "Zechariah" seem to often go together, but they don't appear together in 1 Kings or 1 Chronicles or Ezra or Esther. It is a pattern running through alternating books.

Now, we know that Zechariah is on Spoke 16. I wondered: "do we have anything else here?" It was easy to verify it, because we have a simpler pattern of "Zechariah" (or Zacharias) appearing in Zechariah, Matthew and Luke.

Zechariah: Zechariah, the author (1:1)

Matthew: Zechariah, the last martyr (23:35)

Luke: Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist (1:5). The same Zechariah of Matthew is also mentioned (11:51).
Then I thought: "does a Uzziah follow Zechariah as well in these books?" Well, we don't have the same tight pattern, but the book of Zechariah does mention King Uzziah! In fact, it is the only Davidic king that he mentions (14:5). And Uzziah doesn't appear all the time in the Minor Prophets (only in Hosea and Amos and Zechariah).

So far, so good. Then I thought: what about the next book on the pattern, Matthew? Well, it also mentions Uzziah! (Ozias, 1:8,9) This seems too good. We immediately wonder if Luke follows the pattern.


Well, there's no reference to Uzziah, but we have the KeyLink above that unites the name of "Zechariah" to the actions of Uzziah!! If on one side there's no Uzziah in Luke, on the other there's more than we could have hoped for.
2 Chronicles 26:16 - Uzziah
But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.


Luke 1:9 - Zechariah (Zacharias)
According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

The figures of Uzziah and Zechariah coalesce in the book of Luke. It seems like the last book finishes off by tying the knot of the Zechariah-Uzziah thread.

Spoke 16 (Nehemiah-Zechariah) is the hinge upon which the pattern is built. And Uzziah is a Ayin word! Zechariah is a Zayin word, and Zayin is an atbash of Ayin.

gilgal
01-19-2009, 09:45 PM
And "Zechariah" appears in Ezra as well! I did a sloppy job when I called it the "Zechariah theme" on my last post. I was just trying to make it simple but the real name should be the "Zechariah-Uzziah theme" like I defined and explained earlier.

People called Zechariah appear in all books from 2 Kings to Nehemiah, but only in alternating books do we find a Zechariah somehow connected to a Uzziah. Here's a recap:


The Zechariah-Uzziah thread

2 Kings: In this book we read that in the 38th year of the reign of Uzziah the northern kingdom of Israel had a new king, Zachariah. (15:8)

2 Chronicles: Here we find that Uzziah became king when he was 16 and that he was taught by a certain Zechariah (26:3-5).

Nehemiah: In Book 16 we read about a Uzziah that was son of a Zechariah (11:4).

That is the thread. "Uzziah" and "Zechariah" seem to often go together, but they don't appear together in 1 Kings or 1 Chronicles or Ezra or Esther. It is a pattern running through alternating books.

Now, we know that Zechariah is on Spoke 16. I wondered: "do we have anything else here?" It was easy to verify it, because we have a simpler pattern of "Zechariah" (or Zacharias) appearing in Zechariah, Matthew and Luke.

Zechariah: Zechariah, the author (1:1)

Matthew: Zechariah, the last martyr (23:35)

Luke: Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist (1:5). The same Zechariah of Matthew is also mentioned (11:51).
Then I thought: "does a Uzziah follow Zechariah as well in these books?" Well, we don't have the same tight pattern, but the book of Zechariah does mention King Uzziah! In fact, it is the only Davidic king that he mentions (14:5). And Uzziah doesn't appear all the time in the Minor Prophets (only in Hosea and Amos and Zechariah).

So far, so good. Then I thought: what about the next book on the pattern, Matthew? Well, it also mentions Uzziah! (Ozias, 1:8,9) This seems too good. We immediately wonder if Luke follows the pattern.


Well, there's no reference to Uzziah, but we have the KeyLink above that unites the name of "Zechariah" to the actions of Uzziah!! If on one side there's no Uzziah in Luke, on the other there's more than we could have hoped for.
2 Chronicles 26:16 - Uzziah
But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.


Luke 1:9 - Zechariah (Zacharias)
According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

The figures of Uzziah and Zechariah coalesce in the book of Luke. It seems like the last book finishes off by tying the knot of the Zechariah-Uzziah thread.

Spoke 16 (Nehemiah-Zechariah) is the hinge upon which the pattern is built. And Uzziah is a Ayin word! Zechariah is a Zayin word, and Zayin is an atbash of Ayin.
Ayin and Zayin...hmmm Zayin means sword?


Zechariah 11:17
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

gilgal
01-20-2009, 02:06 PM
2Chronicles 26:18 links with Numbers 16:40.
Zacharias in Luke 1:5 is a descendant from Abijah the 8th listed in 1Chronicles 24.

The number 8 reminds me of Ezekiel and Revelation 8 where there is burning of incense.

Victor
01-21-2009, 03:48 AM
Ayin and Zayin...hmmm Zayin means sword?

Zechariah 11:17
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.


This is a nice correlation. Zayin means "Weapon," and is usually associated to "sword". It is interesting to find a mention of "sword" in conjunction with "eye" on Spoke 16. The eye of the shepherd recieves judgment because the main activity of a shepherd is to watch over the flock. This is commented by Richard on his Spoke 16 articles (The Chief Shepherd (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Ayin_Shepherd.asp) and The Shepherd's Eye (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Ayin_Shepherd_Eye.asp)).

Victor
01-21-2009, 09:02 AM
2Chronicles 26:18 links with Numbers 16:40.

Hey, that was going to be my next link! :D

In these two Bible passages we read about offering incense in conjunction with the sin of disobedience: 2 Chronicles 26:16 and Numbers 16. Both passages have the form (4,16). And just as the account of Uzziah's sin continues with the reaction of the priests on the following verses (17, 18), the reaffirmation of priestly authority is presented in the following chapters of Numbers (17, 18).


Zacharias in Luke 1:5 is a descendant from Abijah the 8th listed in 1Chronicles 24.

The number 8 reminds me of Ezekiel and Revelation 8 where there is burning of incense.

Now that is very good!! Out of all 24 divisions of priests God selected a priest offering incense in the 8th division to reveal the coming of His messenger! This integrates, as you point out, with Spoke 8 and the incense motif, as specially noted in Exodus 30 and Revelation 8.

And there's much more, like Ezekiel 8. I begin to see a larger pattern here that links with much of what you have posted on the thread Spoke 8: Ezekiel 30 and Amos the 30th book (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735). I didn't have the time to post there with some many wonderful links that you provided.

gilgal
01-22-2009, 03:23 AM
Hey, that was going to be my next link! :D

In these two Bible passages we read about offering incense in conjunction with the sin of disobedience: 2 Chronicles 26:16 and Numbers 16. Both passages have the form (4,16). And just as the account of Uzziah's sin continues with the reaction of the priests on the following verses (17, 18), the reaffirmation of priestly authority is presented in the following chapters of Numbers (17, 18).



Now that is very good!! Out of all 24 divisions of priests God selected a priest offering incense in the 8th division to reveal the coming of His messenger! This integrates, as you point out, with Spoke 8 and the incense motif, as specially noted in Exodus 30 and Revelation 8.

And there's much more, like Ezekiel 8. I begin to see a larger pattern here that links with much of what you have posted on the thread Spoke 8: Ezekiel 30 and Amos the 30th book (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735). I didn't have the time to post there with some many wonderful links that you provided.

I think I know the reason why there's a mixture of spokes 4, 8, 14 and 16:


2 Chronicles 26 (spoke 4):1 Then all the people of Judah took Uzziah, who was sixteen (spoke 16) years old, and made him king in the room of his father Amaziah.

2 Chronicles 26:2 He built Eloth, and restored it to Judah, after that the king slept with his fathers.

2 Chronicles 26:3 Sixteen (spoke 16) years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two (spoke 8) years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.

2 Chronicles 26:4 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his father Amaziah did.

2 Chronicles 26:5 And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God: and as long as he sought the LORD, God made him to prosper.

2 Chronicles 26:6 And he went forth and warred against the Philistines, and brake down the wall of Gath, and the wall of Jabneh, and the wall of Ashdod, and built cities about Ashdod, and among the Philistines.

2 Chronicles 26:7 And God helped him against the Philistines, and against the Arabians that dwelt in Gurbaal, and the Mehunims.

2 Chronicles 26:8 And the Ammonites gave gifts to Uzziah: and his name spread abroad even to the entering in of Egypt; for he strengthened himself exceedingly.

2 Chronicles 26:9 Moreover Uzziah built towers in Jerusalem at the corner gate, and at the valley gate, and at the turning of the wall, and fortified them.

2 Chronicles 26:10 Also he built towers in the desert (Title of the 4th book in Hebrew), and digged many wells: for he had much cattle, both in the low country, and in the plains: husbandmen also, and vine dressers in the mountains, and in Carmel: for he loved husbandry.

2 Chronicles 26:11 Moreover Uzziah had an host of fighting men, that went out to war by bands, according to the number of their account by the hand of Jeiel the scribe and Maaseiah the ruler, under the hand of Hananiah, one of the king's captains.

2 Chronicles 26:12 The whole number of the chief of the fathers of the mighty men of valor were two thousand and six hundred (spoke 4).

2 Chronicles 26:13 And under their hand was an army, three hundred thousand and seven thousand and five hundred, that made war with mighty power, to help the king against the enemy.

2 Chronicles 26:14 And Uzziah prepared for them throughout all the host shields, and spears, and helmets, and habergeons, and bows, and slings to cast stones.

2 Chronicles 26:15 And he made in Jerusalem engines, invented by cunning men, to be on the towers and upon the bulwarks, to shoot arrows and great stones withal. And his name spread far abroad; for he was marvelously helped, till he was strong.

2 Chronicles 26:16 But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.

2 Chronicles 26:17 And Azariah the priest went in after him, and with him fourscore (eighty: spoke 14) priests of the LORD, that were valiant men:

2 Chronicles 26:18 And they withstood Uzziah the king, and said unto him, It appertaineth not unto thee, Uzziah, to burn incense unto the LORD, but to the priests the sons of Aaron, that are consecrated to burn incense: go out of the sanctuary; for thou hast trespassed; neither shall it be for thine honor from the LORD God.

2 Chronicles 26:19 Then Uzziah was wroth, and had a censer in his hand to burn incense: and while he was wroth with the priests, the leprosy even rose up in his forehead before the priests in the house of the LORD, from beside the incense altar.

2 Chronicles 26:20 And Azariah the chief priest, and all the priests, looked upon him, and, behold, he was leprous in his forehead, and they thrust him out from thence; yea, himself hasted also to go out, because the LORD had smitten him.

2 Chronicles 26:21 And Uzziah the king was a leper unto the day of his death, and dwelt in a several house, being a leper; for he was cut off from the house of the LORD: and Jotham his son was over the king's house, judging the people of the land.

2 Chronicles 26:22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

2 Chronicles 26:23 So Uzziah slept with his fathers, and they buried him with his fathers in the field of the burial which belonged to the kings; for they said, He is a leper: and Jotham his son reigned in his stead.

Victor
01-22-2009, 11:21 AM
I think I know the reason why there's a mixture of spokes 4, 8, 14 and 16:

There's a lot in 2 Chronicles 26, isn't there? :)

Note that my comments specifically referred to the theme of Incense, and your comments refer to the various themes in 2Ch 26, so we are not speaking of exactly the same thing, though there's an overlap.

Concerning 2Ch 26 and your analysis, we expect that that chapter will show themes based upon Spokes 4 (Chapter 26) and 14 (Book 14). And that's exactly what we find, but we also find quite a few things related to 8 and 16. The reason is not clear to me. I sense a certain "fourness" in all that but can't figure it out.

I once made an in-depth study showing how the theme of Building runned through Spokes 4, 8 and 16 and how that theme related to right angles which are based on the Number 4. (Buildings and Spokes 4, 8 and 16 (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5357&postcount=18).) But in this case the reason is not clear, if there is any.

Victor
01-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Concerning incense, here's a little examination of the distribution of that word in the Bible Wheel:

The greatest number of ocurrences is found on Spoke 2: Exodus and Jeremiah mention incense very much. This is a Wheel link. And it is based on contrast. Exodus concentrates on sacred incense offered in God's worship, whereas Jeremiah predominantly mentions incense offered to idols.

The word "Incense" has spikes on Spokes 2 (Exo and Jer) and 4 (Numbers). There is some more on Spoke 14 (2 Chronicles). It therefore seems to be pretty much linked to temple, service and liturgy. Spoke 2: Bet, House, Temple. Spoke 4: Foursquare, temple. Spoke 14: Priestly motifs, continuity (Nun) of priesthood, perpetual incense...

As to Inner Cycles: there is deep intertextuality between Exodus 30 and Revelation 8 on Spoke 8 and Numbers 16 and 2 Chronicles 16 on Spoke 16. (Maybe there's also some more in Ezekiel 8 and Leviticus 16.)

On the Bible Wheel, therefore, we have Incense as a strong theme on Spokes 2 and 4 and on the Inner Cycles, on Spokes 8 and 16. The numbers 2, 4, 8 and 16 are part of a geometric progression with ratio 2. I don't know if there is any significance in this.

There's also some internal symmetric harmony. The numbers in the second line are obtained by multiplying the numbers of the first line by 4:
Bible Wheel: 2 and 4
Inner Cycles: 8 and 16

gilgal
01-22-2009, 12:18 PM
There's a lot in 2 Chronicles 26, isn't there? :)

Note that my comments specifically referred to the theme of Incense, and your comments refer to the various themes in 2Ch 26, so we are not speaking of exactly the same thing, though there's an overlap.

Concerning 2Ch 26 and your analysis, we expect that that chapter will show themes based upon Spokes 4 (Chapter 26) and 14 (Book 14). And that's exactly what we find, but we also find quite a few things related to 8 and 16. The reason is not clear to me. I sense a certain "fourness" in all that but can't figure it out.

I once made an in-depth study showing how the theme of Building runned through Spokes 4, 8 and 16 and how that theme related to right angles which are based on the Number 4. (Buildings and Spokes 4, 8 and 16 (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5357&postcount=18).) But in this case the reason is not clear, if there is any.

I'm thinking the burning of incense has to do with spoke 8 since:
Revelation 8;
Ezekiel 8;
Exodus 30;
the 8th among the 24 branches of priests in 1 Chronicles (Abijah's line) where Zacharias descended from, his lot is to burn incense.

Then spoke 4 ties 2 Chronicles 26 to:
the 4th book (mentioning Bmidbar in verse 10);
together with Genesis 4 where God shows no respect to Uzziah's offering as he had rejected Korah and Cain;

Then there is Spoke 14:
Where the subject of leprosy is mentioned in Leviticus 14 and I believe in Hebrews as well.

Then there is spoke 16:
The mentioning of Zechariah;
16th chapter of Numbers.

Victor
01-22-2009, 01:14 PM
I'm thinking the burning of incense has to do with spoke 8 since:
Revelation 8;
Ezekiel 8;
Exodus 30;
the 8th among the 24 branches of priests in 1 Chronicles (Abijah's line) where Zacharias descended from, his lot is to burn incense.

I totally agree with you!


Then spoke 4 ties 2 Chronicles 26 to:
the 4th book (mentioning Bmidbar in verse 10);
together with Genesis 4 where God shows no respect to Uzziah's offering as he had rejected Korah and Cain;
I noticed that B'Midbar link on your second to last post. Very good!

This one about offering involving also Cain is very interesting. It loops back to Ezekiel where God rejects the offerings of the people and the elders in chapter 8.



Then there is Spoke 14:
Where the subject of leprosy is mentioned in Leviticus 14 and I believe in Hebrews as well.
That is not clear. Leprosy runs through more than one chapter in Leviticus. And there's no leprosy in Hebrews.

I can see a possible link between Uzziah's and Miriam's punishment by leprosy, this one being recorded in Numbers 12, making it a Spoke 4 link. It may also link to the idea of being accursed (anathema).

Of course 2 Chronicles 26 has to do with Spoke 14 because it touches upon priestly themes that are not covered by 2 Kings (like Uzziah's sin and the priests' reaction; both are is ommited in 2 Kings). Richard explains that phenomenon in the Bible Wheel book. This site also does it.


Then there is spoke 16:
The mentioning of Zechariah;
16th chapter of Numbers.

Agreed.

gilgal
01-22-2009, 01:21 PM
That is not clear. Leprosy runs through more than one chapter in Leviticus. And there's no leprosy in Hebrews.


Yeah I agree. I think there were two occurrences of verse 14s in Luke where Jesus cleanses lepers. But not only 14 but 15 too. But I have to double check.

Victor
01-24-2009, 02:08 PM
There's more about the Number 16 and Zechariah.

The prophet Zechariah appears on Spoke 16 in the book that bears his name, as we have discussed. But it seems that he appears in Nehemiah on Spoke 16 as well! And he figures in the list of the priestly divisions!
Ezra 6:14 and Zechariah 1:1 say that Zechariah was "son of Iddo". In Nehemiah we read about an Iddo who lived during those times.

Neh 12:1 Now these are the priests and the Levites that went up with Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua: Seraiah, Jeremiah, Ezra,
Neh 12:2 Amariah, Malluch, Hattush,
Neh 12:3 Shechaniah, Rehum, Meremoth,
Neh 12:4 Iddo, Ginnetho, Abijah, ...
Could he be the "Iddo" mentioned in Zechariah? Most likely yes!, for we read that "Zechariah" was his descendant!

Neh 12:12 And in the days of Joiakim were priests, the chief of the fathers: of Seraiah, Meraiah; of Jeremiah, Hananiah;
Neh 12:13 Of Ezra, Meshullam; of Amariah, Jehohanan;
Neh 12:14 Of Melicu, Jonathan; of Shebaniah, Joseph;
Neh 12:15 Of Harim, Adna; of Meraioth, Helkai;
Neh 12:16 Of Iddo, Zechariah; of Ginnethon, Meshullam;
There is an extremely high chance that this is the Zechariah son of Iddo on the same Spoke of the Bible Wheel! The words (Iddo, Zechariah) form a near KeyLink between the books of Nehemiah and Zechariah. It appears in Ezra 6:14 so it is not a KeyLink. (But Ezra is on Spoke 15 and it previews, in order, the names of the prophets on Spoke 15 and 16, Haggai and Zechariah.)

As if it wasn't enough, this appearance of Zechariah son of Iddo in Zechariah takes place on verse 16. :-)

So we have another Zechariah who was a priest just like the father of John the Baptist!

gilgal
09-26-2017, 10:42 PM
There's more about the Number 16 and Zechariah.

The prophet Zechariah appears on Spoke 16 in the book that bears his name, as we have discussed. But it seems that he appears in Nehemiah on Spoke 16 as well! And he figures in the list of the priestly divisions!
Ezra 6:14 and Zechariah 1:1 say that Zechariah was "son of Iddo". In Nehemiah we read about an Iddo who lived during those times.

Neh 12:1 Now these are the priests and the Levites that went up with Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua: Seraiah, Jeremiah, Ezra,
Neh 12:2 Amariah, Malluch, Hattush,
Neh 12:3 Shechaniah, Rehum, Meremoth,
Neh 12:4 Iddo, Ginnetho, Abijah, ...
Could he be the "Iddo" mentioned in Zechariah? Most likely yes!, for we read that "Zechariah" was his descendant!

Neh 12:12 And in the days of Joiakim were priests, the chief of the fathers: of Seraiah, Meraiah; of Jeremiah, Hananiah;
Neh 12:13 Of Ezra, Meshullam; of Amariah, Jehohanan;
Neh 12:14 Of Melicu, Jonathan; of Shebaniah, Joseph;
Neh 12:15 Of Harim, Adna; of Meraioth, Helkai;
Neh 12:16 Of Iddo, Zechariah; of Ginnethon, Meshullam;
There is an extremely high chance that this is the Zechariah son of Iddo on the same Spoke of the Bible Wheel! The words (Iddo, Zechariah) form a near KeyLink between the books of Nehemiah and Zechariah. It appears in Ezra 6:14 so it is not a KeyLink. (But Ezra is on Spoke 15 and it previews, in order, the names of the prophets on Spoke 15 and 16, Haggai and Zechariah.)

As if it wasn't enough, this appearance of Zechariah son of Iddo in Zechariah takes place on verse 16. :-)

So we have another Zechariah who was a priest just like the father of John the Baptist!

Yes Iddo:
Iddo = "His witness"
It's an Ayin word!

But Victor, everything is integrated to each other. I mean lets' say I want to compare Genesis 10 with Jonah I get some set of words and themes. But if I compare Genesis 10 with Leviticus 10 I get another group of words and themes. And I'm sure that you can find 3 or more passages with very close result. I mean take these for an example:

- 1Samuel 5 mentioned the carrying away of the Ark of the Covenant;
- 2Kings 5 Israelites were carried captive by the Syrians (no ark);
- 1Chronicles 5 the Israelites were carried away captive by the Assyrians (no ark);
- 2Chronicles 5 the Ark was brought up;
- Daniel the 5th book of the 2nd cycle Daniel and his friends were brought or carried to Babylon with Jehoiakim's captivity (in his captivity and Jehoiachin's, vips were brought to Babylon and given positions and represented the good figs of Jeremiah 24, whereas Zedekiah's captivity were the bad figs because they were so evil). The ark isn't mentioned either but the vessels are mentioned;
- Daniel 5 were the vessels brought before Belshazzar;
- Ezra 5 the vessels were brought back to the temple from Babylon;

So how would anyone question there is no pattern? That's a provocative thing to question, Richard.

I was reading 2Chronicles 35 concerning the ark and I wonder if the ark was hidden in Josiah's time:
[2 Chronicles 35:3 KJV]
And said unto the Levites that taught all Israel, which were holy unto the LORD, Put the holy ark in the house which Solomon the son of David king of Israel did build; [it shall] not [be] a burden upon [your] shoulders: serve now the LORD your God, and his people Israel,

Was there a special place where Solomon built a house to keep the ark out of the Temple?

Richard Amiel McGough
09-27-2017, 09:10 AM
There's more about the Number 16 and Zechariah.

The prophet Zechariah appears on Spoke 16 in the book that bears his name, as we have discussed. But it seems that he appears in Nehemiah on Spoke 16 as well! And he figures in the list of the priestly divisions!
Ezra 6:14 and Zechariah 1:1 say that Zechariah was "son of Iddo". In Nehemiah we read about an Iddo who lived during those times.
Neh 12:1 Now these are the priests and the Levites that went up with Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua: Seraiah, Jeremiah, Ezra,
Neh 12:2 Amariah, Malluch, Hattush,
Neh 12:3 Shechaniah, Rehum, Meremoth,
Neh 12:4 Iddo, Ginnetho, Abijah, ...

Could he be the "Iddo" mentioned in Zechariah? Most likely yes!, for we read that "Zechariah" was his descendant!
Neh 12:12 And in the days of Joiakim were priests, the chief of the fathers: of Seraiah, Meraiah; of Jeremiah, Hananiah;
Neh 12:13 Of Ezra, Meshullam; of Amariah, Jehohanan;
Neh 12:14 Of Melicu, Jonathan; of Shebaniah, Joseph;
Neh 12:15 Of Harim, Adna; of Meraioth, Helkai;
Neh 12:16 Of Iddo, Zechariah; of Ginnethon, Meshullam;

There is an extremely high chance that this is the Zechariah son of Iddo on the same Spoke of the Bible Wheel! The words (Iddo, Zechariah) form a near KeyLink between the books of Nehemiah and Zechariah. It appears in Ezra 6:14 so it is not a KeyLink. (But Ezra is on Spoke 15 and it previews, in order, the names of the prophets on Spoke 15 and 16, Haggai and Zechariah.)

As if it wasn't enough, this appearance of Zechariah son of Iddo in Zechariah takes place on verse 16. :-)

So we have another Zechariah who was a priest just like the father of John the Baptist!

When I was a believer, I would have been very happy to find a connection between Zechariah and Iddo since it is an Ayin word that links to some prominent themes I connected with Spoke 16. (I don't remember if I noted this one or not.) This is a good example of the kinds of connections I was always looking for. And there is a slight statistical anomaly that suggests a connection with Spoke 16. The name Iddo is found in 10 verses of the Bible:



All Verses containing Hebrew Strong's Number H5714


Book
Verses


1Ki
4:14


1Ch
6:21


2Ch
12:15, 13:22


Ezr
5:1, 6:14


Neh
12:4, 12:16


Zec
1:1, 1:7



Each verse has three numbers associated with it (book, chapter, verse). This means you had 3 x 10 = 30 chances of landing on Spoke 16 on the Bible Wheel or an Inner Cycle. If the numbers are random, we would expect a 1 in 22 chance of randomly hitting any Spoke. Thus, we would expect about 30/22 = 1.36 hits but we got 5 hits (2 in Neh and 2 in Zech on Spoke 16, and 1 with the verse number). But the verse number seems random since its the only Inner Cycle hit out of 20 possible hits, and that's exactly what I would have expected by random chance. So analyzing just the level of which spokes the books fall on, we would expect 10/22 = .45 but we found 4 which is about 9 times higher than what we would expect by random chance. Thus, if I were trying to make a case for the Bible Wheel, I would cherry pick this distribution and present it as "evidence." The problem, of course, is that this anomaly is just that, an anomaly. After years of diligent searching, I never found any real statistical support for the general pattern of the Bible Wheel. I did find a good statistical argument for the Canon Wheel (see here (https://www.biblewheel.com/Canon/probability_of_the_sevenfold_canon.php)), but that's a different topic.

I have a lot more to say, but am at work. I'll answer more as time permits.

gilgal
09-28-2017, 03:55 AM
When I was a believer, I would have been very happy to find a connection between Zechariah and Iddo since it is an Ayin word that links to some prominent themes I connected with Spoke 16. (I don't remember if I noted this one or not.) This is a good example of the kinds of connections I was always looking for. And there is a slight statistical anomaly that suggests a connection with Spoke 16. The name Iddo is found in 10 verses of the Bible:



All Verses containing Hebrew Strong's Number H5714


Book
Verses


1Ki
4:14


1Ch
6:21


2Ch
12:15, 13:22


Ezr
5:1, 6:14


Neh
12:4, 12:16


Zec
1:1, 1:7



Each verse has three numbers associated with it (book, chapter, verse). This means you had 3 x 10 = 30 chances of landing on Spoke 16 on the Bible Wheel or an Inner Cycle. If the numbers are random, we would expect a 1 in 22 chance of randomly hitting any Spoke. Thus, we would expect about 30/22 = 1.36 hits but we got 5 hits (2 in Neh and 2 in Zech on Spoke 16, and 1 with the verse number). But the verse number seems random since its the only Inner Cycle hit out of 20 possible hits, and that's exactly what I would have expected by random chance. So analyzing just the level of which spokes the books fall on, we would expect 10/22 = .45 but we found 4 which is about 9 times higher than what we would expect by random chance. Thus, if I were trying to make a case for the Bible Wheel, I would cherry pick this distribution and present it as "evidence." The problem, of course, is that this anomaly is just that, an anomaly. After years of diligent searching, I never found any real statistical support for the general pattern of the Bible Wheel. I did find a good statistical argument for the Canon Wheel (see here (https://www.biblewheel.com/Canon/probability_of_the_sevenfold_canon.php)), but that's a different topic.

I have a lot more to say, but am at work. I'll answer more as time permits.
The possibility isn't only book chapter or verse, but also number in the text. It may also begin with an alphabetical letter associated to the number or it may have a Gematrial connection. But what I'm more focused in these studies is to understand how Scriptures interpret Scriptures.

Take note that you may want to search "King" and get a certain result. However that result is incomplete because there are so many names where the word King is hidden in. And not only that, but there may be other words associated to the word "Melek" such as queen, kingdom...this is why I don't rely on statistics.

Is it a coincidence that son or "ben" is related to build or "binah" and daughter or "bath" is (possibly) related to house or "Beith"?