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gilgal
06-22-2007, 10:55 PM
There are many interesting things Richard wrote in the history (http://www.biblewheel.com/History/Intro.asp) section on this subject.

My subject is on the Spoke 15 and the 15th century.

Genesis 15
1After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
2And Abram said, LORD God, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?
3And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.
4And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.
5And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
6And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
7And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
8And he said, LORD God, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
9And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
10And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.
11And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.
12And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.
13And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
17And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
18In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
19The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaim,
21And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

I posted the entire chapter because maybe you might find more insight related to the spoke 15 than I have. But here's what I discovered.

The word steward reminded me of the House of Stuart:

The House of Stuart or Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Stewart) was a royal house of the Kingdom of Scotland, later also of the Kingdom of England, and finally of the Kingdom of Great Britain. Mary Queen of Scots adopted the French spelling Stuart while in France to ensure that the Scots Stewart was pronounced correctly. The name itself originates from the ancient hereditary Scottish title High Steward of Scotland.

The House of Stuart ruled the Kingdom of Scotland for 336 years, between 1371 and 1707. Queen Elizabeth I of England's closest heir, was King James VI of Scotland via her grandfather King Henry VII of England, who was founder of the House of Tudor. James Stuart also ascended the thrones of the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Ireland, providing the head of all three Home Nations (inheriting English claims to the French throne) between 1603 and 1707. During this latter period, the Stuarts styled themselves "Kings/Queens of Great Britain", though there was no parliamentary union until the reign of Queen Anne, the last monarch of the House of Stuart. The Stuarts were followed by the House of Hanover, who were dynastically important from a Protestant point of view, especially in the cause of uniting Ireland under the London government. Members of various cadet and illegitimate branches still survive today, the original Clan Stuart still extant.


ROBERT II (1371-90) (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/houseof1.htm)

The House of Bruce ended with David II, who was childless. It is my personal opinion, however, that since the following kings through James VI of Scotland and I of England were all direct descendants of Robert the Bruce through his daughter, that the House of Bruce did continue even if the father of Robert II was a Stewart. But then I am a Bruce so, of course, I would think so.

Robert the Bruce's daughter, Marjorie, married Walter Stewart (the 6th High Steward of Scotland). The name Stewart was a hereditary title bestowed by David I. Marjorie died giving birth to Robert II, the founder of the Stewart dynasty and the grandson of Robert the Bruce. Robert II became King at the age of 54. He had been appointed Guardian of Scotland twice during the reign of David II and was an experienced statesman. Apparently, he was experienced in other things too since he produced 21 children (13 legitmate and 8 illegitimate). His first wife was Elizabeth, the daughter of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan (9 children) and his second wife was Euphemia, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Ross (4 children). As with his uncle, David II, he did not have the fighting spirit of his grandfather and was a passive person who had a hard time controlling his family or his kingdom. Once again, there was war between England and Scotland. Scotland was assisted by France under the terms of the Auld Alliance.

One son of Robert II was Alexander, the Wolf of Badenoch, whose son abducted the widowed Countess of Mar and assumed the Earldom. Other sons included the Earl of Strathearn and the Earl of Atholl.

Regardless of the weakness of the Crown and the strength of the nobles, Robert II was still the 99th King of Scots (counting from the mythical Fergus).

gilgal
06-22-2007, 11:04 PM
Ok. The Stuarts got their name from the position they held in the 14th century. But in the 15th century they played a big role. Aligning on spoke 15, the bible's books are:
Ezra, Haggai, and James.

I don't know if Ezra or Haggai would link to the 15th century, but the name "James" plays a big role. Here are the Kings of Scotland and England and their dates:

THE HOUSE OF STEWART (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/houseof1.htm)
Robert II (1371-1390)
Robert III (1390-1406)
James I (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesi.htm) (1406-1437)
James II (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesii.htm) (1437-1460)
James III (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesiii.htm) (1460-1488)
James IV (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesiv.htm) (1488-1513)
James V (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesv.htm) (1513-1542)
Mary Queen of Scots (1542-1587)
Click here for pictures of Mary
(The Four Marys)
James VI (http://www.nwlink.com/~scotlass/jamesvi.htm) (1567-1603)
Notice all the James' that span throughout the 15th century?

It was under the last James ( James VI ) that the King James Bible was written. "Book" in Hebrew is "Sopher" a word from the 15th letter Samekh.

Richard Amiel McGough
06-23-2007, 10:39 AM
There are many interesting things Richard wrote in the history (http://www.biblewheel.com/History/Intro.asp) section on this subject.

My subject is on the Spoke 15 and the 15th century.
Thanks Gilgal! This will prove to be a very interesting topic.

I am going to make a new subsection called "The Wheel of History" and move this thread there, since it deserves its own forum.


The word steward reminded me of the House of Stuart:
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As well it should, since "Stuart" is derived directly from "steward."

Talk more soon,

Richard

Richard Amiel McGough
06-23-2007, 10:52 AM
Ok. The Stuarts got their name from the position they held in the 14th century. But in the 15th century they played a big role. Aligning on spoke 15, the bible's books are:
Ezra, Haggai, and James.

I don't know if Ezra or Haggai would link to the 15th century, but the name "James" plays a big role. Here are the Kings of Scotland and England and their dates:



THE HOUSE OF STEWART
Robert II (1371-1390)
Robert III (1390-1406)
James I (1406-1437)
James II (1437-1460)
James III (1460-1488)
James IV (1488-1513)
James V (1513-1542)
Mary Queen of Scots (1542-1587)
Click here for pictures of Mary
(The Four Marys)
James VI (1567-1603)


Notice all the James' that span throughout the 15th century?

It was under the last James ( James VI ) that the King James Bible was written. "Book" in Hebrew is "Sopher" a word from the 15th letter Samekh.

Hi Gilgal,

Thanks for pointing this out! I find the fact that the name "James" was introduced very near the beginning of the 15th century, and then continued without break through the entire century quite intriguing. It makes me wonder if there are other similar links with other kings. In general, the whole "rise and fall (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Kingdom.asp)" of the kingdoms in Europe follows the pattern of the Hebrew alphabet, and is symmetric with the rise and fall of the kingdom of Israel when the time line is reflected about the first century when Christ - the Alpha Omega/Aleph Tav entered World History as seen in the image below, which is from my article The Key to the Kingdoms (http://www.biblewheel.com/History/KingdomKey.asp):

http://www.biblewheel.com/History/KingdomKey.gif

RAM

gilgal
06-23-2007, 11:51 AM
Speaking of "Sopher" meaning "book" and the 15th century:

DESCRIBING THE PRIEURE DE SION (http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/freeman.htm)

The original start of the Prieure de Sion appears to have been the idea of a number of powerful bloodlines, and included various descendents of the Merovingians, including the House of Lorraine, the House of Guise, the Medicis, Sforzas, the Estes, the Gonzagas, and the St. Clairs (Sinclairs). The Medicis are tied to the Black Nobility also. From the beginning the Prieure de Sion has been committed to Hermetic Magic (a type of black magic that originated with the ancient Egyptians and portrayed in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.) René d’ Anjou, a descendent of the Merovingians persuaded Cosimo de Medici to establish in c. 1444 a non-church library at San Marco where Plato, Pythagorean works, and books on Hermetic Magic were translated. Up until this time, the Catholic church had control of all the libraries. It was from Cosimo dé Medici’s library that the spark of Greek and Egyptian teachings set off what developed into the Renaisannce, which was revival of humanism and the occult. It appears that during the Middle Ages, witchcraft and the mystery religions had seriously dissolved to the point that these modes of thought had to be relearned from the ancient writings. Interestingly, the Middle Ages when witchcraft and paganism were dissolving have been branded the "Dark Ages" by the establishment, and inaccurately painted as a time when learning went out.. A magazine put out during W.W. II by Prieure de Sion members was Vaincre. The organization that took credit for the magazine was Alpha Galates. It carried articles on Atlantis, theosophy, Celtic wisdom, and other esoteric things. The magazine also declared itself in favor of a United Europe. Robert Schuman who was associated with the magazine Vaincre, later become a leading architect of the EEC. An internal magazine for Prieure de Sion members is CIRCUIT (the acronym for Chivalry of Catholic Rules and Institutions of the Independent and Traditionalist Union. A 1956 issue of CIRCUIT promotes the use of a 13-sign zodiac rather than the traditional 12. The 1959 series of CIRCUIT refer the reader toVaincre. The CIRCUIT magazine which claims to write its articles with ‘hidden meaning,, says this cryptically about the Prieure de Sion, "We are not strategists and we stand above all religious denominations, political perspectives and financial matters. We give to those who come to us moral aid and the indispensible manna of the spirit." Another article says, "...except through new methods and new men, for politics are dead. The curious fact remains that men do not wish to recognize this. There exists only one question: economic organization." Dr. Otto von Hapsburg, a descendent of the Merovingians, and a Knights of Malta, headed Pan-Europa, an organization that has been working toward a U.S. of Europe. Their logo was a Celtic cross in a circle. The first point in time that the Prieure de Sion can be pinpointed is when Jerusalem was captured by the Crusaders and an abbey of monks that Peter the Hermit had belonged to was established in a building called the Abbey of Notre Dame de Mont de Sion just outside of Jerusalem. This abbey had an order that was called the Ordre de Sion. Over the centuries the Ordre de Sion has developed into what we have today as the Prieure de Sion (Priory of Zion in English). Bear in mind that the Ordre of Sion was visible for several centuries but has been totally secret after the 13th century. It became semi-visible during the 1960s and 70s and became secret again in 1984. The group of monks that made up the original order were led by Ursus of the Merovingians. They were given a place at Orval in France until they apparently decided to move to the Holy Land. This order appears to have had the power behind the scenes to have been in the position to select who would sit on the throne at Jerusalem, and the initially selected their man Godfroi de Bouillon. The Ordre de Sion (Prieure de Sion) set up a military order called the Knights Templar. Louis VII of France became indepted to the Knights Templar, and in repayment of the help he had received he established some of the Ordre de Sion at the priory of St. Samson, along with establishing 26 men (2 groups of 13) at a small priory at the Mount of Sion, Orleans, France. In 1188, the Ordre de Sion let the Knights Templars apparently go their own way, which eventually was to trouble. The story of the Knights Templars is exceedingly interesting because it relates to the Satanic International Bankers of today. The Knights Templars became the first European wide International Bankers.

gilgal
06-23-2007, 11:55 AM
Richard has mentioned that the printing press moveable type was invented in this period and the first book printed was the Guntenberg bible:

The Gutenberg Bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible) (also known as the 42-line Bible or the Mazarin Bible) is a printed version of the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible that was printed by Johannes Gutenberg, in Mainz, Germany in the fifteenth century. Although it is not, as often thought, the first book to be printed by Gutenberg's new movable type system, it is his major work, and has iconic status as the start of the "Gutenberg Revolution" and the "Age of the Printed Book".

The detailed format of printed bible is a possible imitation of a Mainz illuminated manuscript, the so called Giant Bible of Mainz (Biblia latina), whose 1300 pages were written between 1452 and 1453.

Richard Amiel McGough
06-23-2007, 12:03 PM
Speaking of "Sopher" meaning "book" and the 15th century:

The introduction of the Printing Press in the middle of the 15th century (1455 to be exact) is one of the primary correlations with the Bible Wheel. Indeed Ezra (Book 15) was a "ready scribe (http://www.biblewheel.com/History/C15_Printing.asp)"!

Slight vowel correction: the Samek KeyWord "sopher" means "scribe", and "sepher" means "book".

The meanings of the letters is quite revealing.

Sepher (Book) = Samek (Support) Pey (Mouth) Resh (Head/Chief)

Thus, a sepher (book) can be understood as the Chief Support for the Mouth, or Support for the Head Speaker - which make a lot of sense when it is recalled that the books of the Bible were intended to be read in public.

Richard

gilgal
01-23-2008, 11:15 AM
Thanks Gilgal! This will prove to be a very interesting topic.

I am going to make a new subsection called "The Wheel of History" and move this thread there, since it deserves its own forum.



As well it should, since "Stuart" is derived directly from "steward."

Talk more soon,

Richard

As far as I know one of the descendants of the Stuarts is Bonnie Prince Charles Edward who as I read had an illegitimate daughter but no son. From his book Bloodlines of the Illuminati Fritz Springmeier mentioned the prince was offered to rule America but he declined for two reasons:

That he didn't have an offspring to succeed him;
That Democracy was more favorable at the time.


You can read about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Edward_Stuart

He's also called a Jacobite because he belonged to the order of Jacobins. I think the name is dedicated to Jacques DeMolay the last Grand Master of the Knights Templars. Once again the name James/Jacob/Jacques appears with the word Stuart/Steward a strong spoke 15 theme even though it goes beyond the 15th century.

gilgal
04-02-2009, 11:49 AM
I find this thread very mind boggling. Does anyone have more details concerning the 15th century, particularly. The 5 successive King James Scotland and England at the time?

How about the founding of America?