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04-24-2014, 02:54 PM
is it possible?
is there a way?
where is the Plan?
what must be done?

well Jesus Had John the divine Reveator, write it down - for those with ears to hear.
John Heard = John wrote for our learning and practice.


Revelation 3.

Writing to the Philadelphians (those with the fruit of brotherly love),
* Jesus promises His weak but enduring faithful that He has “opened a door which no man can shut,” and that He will “keep you from the time of tribulation that is to try all the earth.”

for those bearing the fruits of brotherly love - condition.

04-24-2014, 11:08 PM
it is very hard to step out from earthly fears and into courage

holy courage,
i.e.- the same as the Saviour walked in on earth,
this courage is BORN FROM LOVE and desire to belong to the spirit of life and Liberty.
when This type of Love flows, earthly fears will cease to effect us.
Ofcourse, the overcomers know each test is to erradicate their unholy earthly fears....and allow this AGAPE LOVE its first place in their lives.
This agape love does not come to judge but to save, same as Yeshua walked in - it can be called VIRTUE,
''brotherly love'' cannot be found Unless the agape love is flowing first, for 'our judgment' will get in the way and hinder.
It is very difficult to be loosed from an earthly perspective of ''judging'' others, but it needs to be done and holy lessons learnt to graduate in the class of ''brotherly love''.

it has to be so.................... as this graduation, allows tribulation to pass us by.

David M
04-25-2014, 01:39 AM
I am inclined to agree that we are not to spared from tribulations. Jesus suffered tribulations. We can say that tribulations are a apart from life. However, tribulations do not have to get the better of us. The worst tribulation is that which causes death. The believer does not have to fear death; is is but a sleep to those who die in Christ.

There is great tribulation coming upon the earth in the time when God's judgement is poured out on the nations. The time is coming when at the coming of Christ, there will be those who do not see death, but as the apostle Paul understood and tells us (1 Cor 15:51); Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Revelation does not tell us that the saints were spared tribulation, but they had come through it (Rev 7:14); And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

04-25-2014, 02:44 AM
YET, the gospel is hidden from those who are perishing.

He will “keep you from the time of tribulation that is to try all the earth.”

as ''brotherly love'' is so seldom seen in the churched, they obviously do suffer all manner of tribulations.
yet there is a way of escape... Jesus had the divine revelator write it down............

He will “keep you from the time of tribulation that is to try all the earth.”

so how is it done?

04-25-2014, 02:51 PM
''we are well able to overcome the giants in the land''


the answer is amazing.

04-26-2014, 03:06 PM
defeating vanity.................
is to ESCAPE from our PRISON of comfort.

We awake to the fact we are IN a prison
- how?
By being locked into the law of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - this is our 'comfort zone' and all we know.

Jesus came to UNLOCK this law, of sin and death and to provide HIS WAY for our escape.

soon this prison planet, shall be convulsed in tribulation - where everyone and everything shall be changed
- this world shall convulse or shift into another dimension as time and space shall be No more.

how to escape tribulation?
The holy advice given is ''watch and pray, ye are worthy to escape'' - the 2 conditions.
being worthy is a condition.

This CONVULSING of earth/vanity/The Matrix is when the time/space dimension fades away and 'thy Kingdom Come'' appears.
when the cup of uniquity is full.

what would fill the cup with wickedness?
something so bad, Father says ''ENOUGH''.

COULD IT BE - when man joins himself to a machine as a human robot - or -part man part machine of his own creation as human gods - an altered creation of man-machine.

is this happening now?
yes - the man/machine created by man is called a cyborg.
RoBO humans.
A cyborg, short for "cybernetic organism", is a being with both organic and mechanical parts

as the Bride makes herself ready - so the devil makes his counterfeits......
the Bride, understands her way of escape.
[watch and pray to be worthy.]

Isaiah 26:20 invitation:
“Come, My people, enter into your inner chambers, and shut your doors behind you.
Hide yourself shortly a moment till the indignation pass over .”
so the question is this?
how are we going to hide?

there are 2 choices
the world of vanity
the eternal shift into the Kingdom of God.

05-01-2014, 11:17 PM
“If there was no such thing as money, then what would you like to do with your life?”

05-02-2014, 05:46 PM
“If there was no such thing as money, then what would you like to do with your life?”What is being done.

Give it all away!

...persist in seeking God's Kingdom, and all that He sees you need shows up "unexpectedly"...
...eliminating the "felt need" to beg God to do 4 U 2.

05-03-2014, 02:12 PM
did the ''garden of Eden'' reality have money?

05-04-2014, 06:04 AM
did the ''garden of Eden'' reality have money?
It was strictly an agrarian economy:rofl:lacking nothing.

Before anyone is too quick to dismiss the idea of money, there are over 3,500 verses in the Bible directly relatedto finance, being instructions how one shal best use wisely. Follow them, and you will find yourself with far more of ithan you could ever even use (toward your own family for several lifetimes.

It is also amusing how Yeshua sat next to the Temple treasury watching what was going on...or how He emptied it of those sacrafice merchants on more than one occaison...purging out the leaven STS.

MOSTLY, out from everything written concerning this issue about what you value, Jesus provides a key element in experiencing God's power present and active in our daily lives. In fact, it seems that every verse found about finance could branch out from this one thing.


First a disclaimer for the ones who thinks what is being shown does not work; because, it always has for me …that is, ever since being told to go pick off a slender long switch from the pussy willow tree, and was brought back behind the woodshed, where i recived a near instantaneous attitude adjustment from Yah concerning this very issue.

(for the naysayer)

“You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."
Matthew 2.29


Now He was also saying to the disciples, “There was a rich man who had a manager, and this manager was reported to him as squandering his possessions. And he called him and said to him, ‘What is this I hear about you? Give an accounting of your management, for you can no longer be manager.’

The manager said to himself, ‘What will I do, since my master is pulling the management away from me? I am not strong enough to dig; I am ashamed to beg. I know what I shall do, so that when I am removed from the management people will welcome me into their homes.’

And he called to meet each one of his master’s debtors, and he began saying to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ And he said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ And he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ And he said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ He said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’

And his master praised the unrighteous manager because he had acted shrewdly; for the sons of this age are more shrewd in relation to their own kind than the sons of light. And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by means of the wealth of unrighteousness, so that when it fails, they will receive you into the age enduring dwellings.

“He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous also in much. Therefore if you have not been faithful in the use of unrighteous wealth, who will entrust the true to you? And if you have not been faithful in the use of that which is another’s, who will give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.”

Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, were listening to all these things and were scoffing at Him.

And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts; for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God. The Torah and the Prophets until John...since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it; but it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.
~ Luke 16.1-17 ~

What unchanging principle/Law is in effect?
If the above Remez out from the mouth of Yeshua doesn't open your eyes, mayhaps reading the life of Avraham Avinu could.

Adventure Time
01-14-2021, 05:06 PM
Is there a contradiction in calling the earth a vanity prison matrix, and then saying the borg are a sin? - when one wants for more than what one has been provided with? Just because God, ie not you, makes the decision for you to be 'upgraded to a superior plane', the heart speaks plain. To escape the tribulation one must join one of these groups causing it, like a dog programmed through Pavlovian conditioning. But in truth - Swedenborg sheds some light that people often choose to learn through a hellish path. By respecting that decision, we can disconnect from the karma they are trying to drag others into.

What I am curious about is the prophecies of Sylvia Ivanova. She is a very grounded, sensible voice, and much of what she has said previously has already started to manifest, thought internet culture drastically atomises people's experience, depending on how well-trained they are.
Previous https://www.thehighersidechats.com/sylvie-ivanova-alexander-paramanov-the-parasites-the-prophecies/

Current https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiPtoesdwrM