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duxrow
12-08-2013, 07:02 AM
Days of Noah
When the leaves change colors, then we know the time of year,
and when the men chase after men, the Lord's return is near.
As it was in the days of Noah, and in the days of Lot.. Luke17:28
The end is coming surely -- don't think that it is not!

This once-great Land of Liberty has become a Land of Shame..
Because our government officials have disdained the Jesus name.
Instead of ONE GOD whom we trust; We have to recognize them all!
And never-mind the Bible Way -- the IRS knows where the 'chips will fall'..

They live it high upon the hog, with pockets full of [our] money, :eek:
Then 'take the 5th' and disappear, with blessings from their honey...
His Majesty claims 'Benghazi sound', even when he can't be found..
Except on TV or the links -- could be, he thinks the Oval Office stinks?

Stonewalling what he knows so well, and those who doubt can GTH,
A scalawag down to the roots, and now we see his kind of fruits! Mt7:20
This once-great Land of Liberty is now a Land of Shame..
Since Political Correctness has stomped on Jesus name..
Handing out free 'goodies' to all of those who vote,
For Him it's only proper to keep his Ship of State afloat.


From the Sons of Noah to the Daughters of Lot, the Families of Scripture are a tale that is taught!

duxrow
12-13-2013, 08:18 AM
The Final One Hundred Years..
Noah's name means "Comforter" (as in Holy Ghost), and his babies had only one hundred years before the Ark was ready and the rain began. :eek:

There may be other events that compare more favorably with that time period, but World War One (WW1 - 1914-1918) began as the European War and ended up Global. Woodrow Wilson (the 'Educator') was the U.S. President at the time.

http://cswnet.com/~duxrow/Noah.htm :yo:

duxrow
12-30-2013, 12:09 PM
Adam named all the animals and found none 'suitable', so GOD put Adam to sleep and took a rib from him to create Eve. Not until 1Cor15 tells about Jesus being the "2nd Adam" (also seeking a bride, as was Isaac and the 600 Benjamites), were we able to connect the two stories and wonder if WE in the New Covenant aren't being Ribbed also? You think?

duxrow
01-28-2014, 06:36 AM
Four (4) couples aboard Noah's Ark, but ONLY two (2) generations unless one of the kids married strangely, because parents and children are different generations. Since Noah didn't have kids till he was 500 years old, his was the Longest Generation in scripture, notwithstanding all the notoriety about Abraham's advanced age before having sons. :chores015:

duxrow
04-02-2014, 08:52 AM
Abraham was ~57 years old when Noah died, so it's possible they met and had a dialogue.. You think?
There's no mention of Noah's wife, or other children, so Lev18:7 may pertain to what caused Ham to receive such a curse.. :eek:

1098

Snakeboy
04-02-2014, 09:56 AM
Adam named all the animals and found none 'suitable', so GOD put Adam to sleep and took a rib from him to create Eve. Not until 1Cor15 tells about Jesus being the "2nd Adam" (also seeking a bride, as was Isaac and the 600 Benjamites), were we able to connect the two stories and wonder if WE in the New Covenant aren't being Ribbed also? You think?

It's certainly fishy that god would be able to create everything in 6 days, but needed to steal a rib to make a woman.

That is, if you take the stories to be literal. :D

duxrow
04-02-2014, 10:53 AM
A mystery story deposits clues along the way, and entices some to read the whole book, but doesn't tell about the TWO (2 special) covenants until Gal 4:24, and doesn't tell how a thousand years are as One Day until 2Pet3:8, and I'm guessing He reserves the "ribbing" for those who are blessed w The Joy of the Lord! LOL!

David M
04-03-2014, 02:47 AM
It's certainly fishy that god would be able to create everything in 6 days, but needed to steal a rib to make a woman.

That is, if you take the stories to be literal. :D
If we do not take every word of the story literally, we should take the lesson of the story. Woman was created second. To all the other of God's creations we are told, he made them male and female and we have no separation in time between the two.

There is method (wisdom) in what appears foolishness with God. Similarly, the cross is regarded as foolshness (1 Cor 1:18) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

There is an echelon that does not change. God, then Jesus, then man, then woman. In the sight of God both men and women are equal when they accept the word of God. In life, there has to be a hierarchy. God always knew a man could be perfect. It was the intention of God to produce (begat) the perfect man and so be vindicated. However, to reach that stage, we cannot have a world solely of men or women. There has to be both sexes in order to multiply, which is what God intended to happen. Adam was made first because God's son would be a man. That is just the principle God has set. Women are physically different to men and are typically the weaker sex physically. A woman's role is for bringing up children while the man has to provide for his wife and is also responsible for teaching. Man and woman by sexual union become one flesh and the taking of Adam's rib is teaching us the lesson that woman is of the flesh of the man. They are the same in that respect.

God is laying down principles at the beginning which do not change.

(Eph 5:28-33) So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord, the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

Eve had the inquisitive mind and her mind was deceived. Adam was not deceived and bore the greater guilt. Therefore, it is by Adam (one man) that sin entered into the world. (Romans 5:18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. It was always the intention God would provide a way out knowing at some time man would not be perfect until God begat his own Son that would be completely obedient to his commands.

God has given us the assurance that we can expect eternal life as a result of grace and mercy shown by God toward those who believe in him. (Acts 17:31) whereof he (God) hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

We now wait the return of Christ to set up God's kingdom and for paradise to be restored and for all the saved ones at the end of the millennial reign of Christ to live for eternity, having been perfected at the resurrection. It is only in Christ that we can win the victory over death (the devil). (1 Cor 15:57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

God's plan does not look foolish to me.

duxrow
04-03-2014, 06:05 AM
Miriam: means "rebellious". Sister to Moses & Aaron, who became leprous and was ejected from the camp for seven (7) day period for her criticism of Moses marrying the Ethiopian woman. God said: "If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed?.." Numb 12:14
No reason given for why Aaron escaped similar punishment, but synecdoche may play a part. The "7" of the OT like the first seven that Jacob served for Rachel was stressing the 'male first' period. It's the second seven; the "Leah 7", that pertains to the fruitful female period.

:winking0071: Similar to the account of the fig tree cursed by Jesus -- Trees of Righteousness are supposed to bear fruit and people who appear to be christians but aren't bearing fruit (as women are 'land', Jer3:1 and designed to be 'fruitful'), represent the NT period.

Snakeboy
04-03-2014, 07:02 AM
*snipped*

God's plan does not look foolish to me.

Good luck with that, then :D

Snakeboy
06-15-2017, 11:30 AM
Well, Richard, I assume you are busy, so I will start first

" flood " texts and terminologies in pre-biblical Mesopotamian literature do not refer to actual floods, they refer to rosh chodesh ( new moon ) and eclipses ( AKA " omen " ), mainly

The fictional character of Noah was based on the position of the " Lugal " ( A ruler / priest )

The Bible was clearly written using Mesopotamian procedural texts and omen texts, dealing specifically with times denoted by astronomical observations ( ephemeris )

A clear example is the use of typical Babylonian omen phrasing in the " Book of Revelation ":

" surrounded by a crown of stars " and " clothed in the sun " being two obvious examples ( cf the text K.148 for clarification ) and referring to the planet Venus

Being that " John " was supposedly exiled to Patmos for " magic " and / or " astrology ", which both fall under the duties of the initiate priests in the lineage of Sin-leqi-unninni, who are themselves tasked with the rituals surrounding new moon and eclipses, I feel like you have barely vetted this topic, and many more, here on the BW forums


I would like a debate on these topics, so I offer a few of my sources first to get you started, just in case you don't already know them


CDLI (http://cdli.ucla.edu/)

CCP (http://ccp.yale.edu/)

ePSD (http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/nepsd-frame.html)

ETCSL (http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/)


Let me know if you have any questions :pop2:

Richard Amiel McGough
06-15-2017, 06:22 PM
I would like a debate on these topics, so I offer a few of my sources first to get you started, just in case you don't already know them


CDLI (http://cdli.ucla.edu/)

CCP (http://ccp.yale.edu/)

ePSD (http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/nepsd-frame.html)

ETCSL (http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/)


Let me know if you have any questions :pop2:
Hey there Isaac,

Why do you want to debate those topics? What value would there be in such an activity?

Richard

Snakeboy
06-16-2017, 10:46 AM
Hey there Isaac,

Why do you want to debate those topics? What value would there be in such an activity?

Richard

Well, there is no debate, really, unless you want to try and refute my statements ( good luck ), this is really more to educate you and your readers

But we could start with any number of topics you mangled

Richard Amiel McGough
06-16-2017, 06:05 PM
Well, there is no debate, really, unless you want to try and refute my statements ( good luck ), this is really more to educate you and your readers

But we could start with any number of topics you mangled
Hey there Isaac,

Most of the things that I found interesting involved your numerology relating to the digits of pi and stuff like that. Unfortunately, most of our interaction from that time was lost in the crash.

One thing I recall is that you had claimed that the ancients had knowledge of pendulum clocks, and used them to define a second. Is that correct? Do you still believe it? If so, what evidence do you have?

It's good to be chatting again,

Richard

Snakeboy
06-17-2017, 09:42 AM
Hey there Isaac,

Most of the things that I found interesting involved your numerology relating to the digits of pi and stuff like that. Unfortunately, most of our interaction from that time was lost in the crash.

One thing I recall is that you had claimed that the ancients had knowledge of pendulum clocks, and used them to define a second. Is that correct? Do you still believe it? If so, what evidence do you have?

It's good to be chatting again,

Richard





Yup, that's right, I claim the second was known to the ancients

Did you want to debate the origin of units ?

We should start with the horn, because that's the one that should have been covered first, considering the Bible's bent towards astronomy

:pop2:

Richard Amiel McGough
06-17-2017, 07:33 PM
Yup, that's right, I claim the second was known to the ancients

Did you want to debate the origin of units ?

We should start with the horn, because that's the one that should have been covered first, considering the Bible's bent towards astronomy

:pop2:
I would like to see your evidence that the ancients knew about pendulum clocks.

Snakeboy
06-18-2017, 10:38 AM
I would like to see your evidence that the ancients knew about pendulum clocks.

Sure thing, professor

There are 86,400 seconds in the day, nominal


If the second is not ancient, then why is it the basis of the hour ?

You obviously haven't studied

Snakeboy
06-18-2017, 11:03 AM
I hope you aren't making the assumption that that pendulum was not know until Galileo's studies, because that's about as wrong as you can get

If you want to go look for yourself, you'll see it was used all the way back in the first century, by the Chinese, and if you think that Mesopotamian mathematicans and astronomers were not well aware of what a period is, or that they never noticed the period of a weight hanging on a string, then you probably think European mathematicians invented calculus too

:lol:

Perhaps we should start a thread on the origin of units, Richie, because I think you are woefully under-educated on the topic

From my memory you seem to think that a majority of units are arbitrary ?

If that is your answer, we should definitely do a thread on metrology and metrological conventions used for mathematical astronomy

But back to my question, since this is a thread about the " flood "

" Floods " were measured in horns, AKA fingers

Do you have a section on this already ?

I would think you would, considering it's a fundamental source for Biblical writings

or no ?

Snakeboy
06-20-2017, 10:15 AM
Well, anyway

When you take a few minutes to educate yourself on what the nadir is, and how it was established by Mesopotamian astronomers, you can maybe tell me why you think arcseconds are not an ancient unit, Richard

I'll be glad yo hear your " opinion " on why you think a second interval was not known to Mesopotamians, when it in fact it was used commonly for celestial navigation and recording ephemeris

Hope you know what you are talking about though, because I certainly do

And let me know when you can find the quote where I said pendulum clocks existed in Mesopotamia, because I certainly don't recall saying that

And also let me know when you are ready to discuss " the flood "

And let me know when you grasp the difference between a pendulum and a plumb bob

:yo:

Desmild
06-20-2017, 10:27 AM
Ops wrote on the wrong thread. This was ment for the answer to you in the Woman clother with the Sun and Moon under her feet thread. I thought you wrote 2 comments in a row in my thread.

Snakeboy
06-20-2017, 02:14 PM
Ops wrote on the wrong thread. This was ment for the answer to you in the Woman clother with the Sun and Moon under her feet thread. I thought you wrote 2 comments in a row in my thread.

Let me get this straight

You are asking me to explain something ( fictions in Genesis ) that you have no interest in believing ?

On a thread that's not about that particular topic ?

Why would you ask me to present something to you that is in complete opposition to something you believe ?

You are essentially asking me to tell you what you believe are lies

To me, that sounds like utter buffoonery, and not really even worth the time it takes to type a reply

Please clarify, if I am confused about the situation, thanks, because I really do want to understand your logic

:)

Snakeboy
06-21-2017, 10:15 AM
Nothing ?

I thought you'd be ready to discuss the finer details of Mesopotamian astronomy, Richard

oh well

Want to discuss pi again and the numbers used in Revelation, or were you having difficulties there too ?

I'm itchin' to get to the cognates in cuneiform languages to Hebrew and Greek, so we could discuss that too

Just let me know, captain

:thumb:

Richard Amiel McGough
06-21-2017, 06:50 PM
Sure thing, professor

There are 86,400 seconds in the day, nominal


If the second is not ancient, then why is it the basis of the hour ?

You obviously haven't studied
The second is not the basis of the hour. The hour was defined first, and then subdivided into 3600 seconds much later. To borrow your phrase, "you obviously haven't studied" this topic.

davidjayjordan
09-06-2017, 08:17 AM
The second is not the basis of the hour. The hour was defined first, and then subdivided into 3600 seconds much later. To borrow your phrase, "you obviously haven't studied" this topic.

No Richard, time was designed and is not by chance, nor created by man.

Seconds, and minutes and hours relate directly to distances and the exact cycles of the Earth, and Moon, which were also exactly proportioned and positioned...

None of it was by lucky chance... all by design, all inter-related....

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/SacredGeometry.html

As for Noah, again that is a proveable fact including its designed date in SECONDS

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/OneDayTilNoahsFlood.html




You need to study Richard and forget your whell for profit and glory.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/SacredGeometry.html

David