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Watchman232
04-07-2008, 06:30 PM
***276*** and ***666***


This Revelation came together on the evening of APRIL 6, 2008. @ http://www.californiajudgment2008.citymax.com/page/page/5852063.htm

The thought just came to me to put in the AOL google search engine the following : >>> 276 and 666 <<<
Remember the significance of 276 is 2nd Chronicles 13:17 the 500,000 death count for July 8, 2008 is the 276th verse of that book and Two Hundred Seventy Six is only seen once in the text of a bible verse in Acts 27:37. And of course
666 plays a significant role in the July 8, 2008 prophecy as well.
666 chapters from 2nd Chronicles 13:17 to Acts 28:17.
666 days from 5th anniversary of 911-Sept 11, 2006 to July 8, 2008
666 minus 476(17X28)= 190 which = July 8, 2008 > 190th day of this year!
gematria of > SIX HUNDRED SIXTY SIX = 275
gematria of > FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS = 275
666 divided into 78 gives a decimal remainder of .117117117 into infinity,
7/8 = July Eight = 117 in gematria and Longitude Line 117 runs right thru
San Diego and Southwest California location of the 500,000 deaths!!!

So the very first link that comes up for that "276 and 666" search is >>>
http://homepage.virgin.net/vernon.jenkins/sixes.htm
And look at what the very first paragraph says. And by the way google says there are 289,000 possible matches so consider how rare the chances are that the very first link very first paragraph of that link would be quoting these exact two highlighted scriptures as you see their significance with 276 and 666 in combination explained below.

The number 666 has long been respected as an object of dark mystery. This stems largely from the specific reference in the Bible's last book where it is presented as the key to an intriguing riddle - one set in the broader context of a time of extreme apostasy and world domination by the beast. Less well-known are its three other scriptural appearances - two occurring in parallel passages; significantly, these raise further questions about this number. Thus, in 1st Kings 10:14 and 2nd Chronicles 9:13 we read of the annual tribute of gold received by King Solomon; the specific figure, 666 talents, is quoted - yet we are also given to understand that this was just part of the total amount.

2nd Chronicles 9:13
"The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was
Six Hundred and Sixty-Six talents of gold,"

From 2nd Chronicles 9:13 its exactly 93 verses to 2nd Chronicles 13:17
From April 6, 2008 its exactly 93 days to July 8, 2008 !!
And I'm just discovering this literal link with this
prophetic link with 2nd Chronicles 9:13 today on
April 6, 2008 !! Now notice 9+3=12=6+6
April 6 and 6 + 6 reveals
6 in the hand 6+6 in the Stars!!!!!!



the >>>666<<< connection !!!!!!
with 2nd Chronicles 9:13 and 2nd Chronicles 13:17 !!!!!!
Confirming the timeline countdown to July 8, 2008 !!!!!!
gematria of APRIL 56 SIX 52 = 108 = 18 = 6+6+6

SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA = 18 letters 666 (See Luke 13:11)

Now lets look at the prophetic significance of 1st Kings 10:14
1st Kings 10:14
"The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was
Six Hundred and Sixty-Six talents of gold,"

From 1st Kings 10:14 its 2377 verses to 2nd Chronicles13:17
From the date of >>>>>>1/4/2002 its 2377 days to July 8, 2008
Here's the Link you can check this Jan 4 perfect match calculation with.
http://calendarhome.com/cgi-bin/date2.pl?month1=1&date1=4&year1=2002&wd=Friday&month2=7&date2=8&year2=2008&wd2=Tuesday
Now just take the 2377 number and multiply 2 X 3 X 7 X 7 and you get 294
gematria of Two58 Hundred74 Seventy110 Six52 = 294
Notice the perfect alignment with
2nd Chronicles 13:17 verse # 276 of that book !!
2nd Chronicles = 14th book of the bible !!
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and a new discovery that further confirms YESHUA hu Adonai http://www.biblewheel.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=156&page=4

basilfo
04-07-2008, 07:44 PM
As my Jewish friend would say: "Oy vey!"

Richard Amiel McGough
04-07-2008, 07:53 PM
Hey there Watchman232,

The thing that interests me most is this: Let us suppose that your prediction turns out to be false. How then will you understand all these numbers that you see? Will you just reject them all as meaningless coincidences? If so, why do accept them as significant now?

Richard

Watchman232
04-11-2008, 04:43 AM
YES WAS UNSEALED!!!

1st ) Kenizzites
380th vs. Genesis 15:19 475 1 5 1 9 4 7 5 32 3+2 5 8

* the kenites, and the kenizzites, and the kadmonites


475th vs. Genesis 19:17 1762 5 7
And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, escape for thy life look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed. 1762

1762 762 2524th vs. Exodus 34:27 1305
~A~nd t~he~ ` LORD s~~~a`id u~nto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

286th vs. Gen 11:19 762 2 8 6 1 1 1 9 7 6 2 7 1 1 1 9 7 6 2 27 2+7 9
And peleg lived after he begat reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters. 762

17~~~888~~~62nd vs. Exodus 9:19 1944 9 1 9 1 9 4 4 37 3+7 10
Send

therefore now, and gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field; for upon every man and beast which shall be found in the field, and shall not be brought home, the hail shall come down upon them, and they shall die.

* U1944R m1204 3148th vs. 402nd vs. leviticus 14:36 1929 1929
* Then the priest shall command that they empty the house, before the priest go into it to see the plague,

that

all that is in the house be not made unclean: and afterward the priest shall go in to see the house

1929th vs. 396th vs. Exodus 15:8 1471 9 3
and with the Blast of Thy nostrils the33 waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.
1471st vs. Genesis 48:19 1922
And ` his father refused and said I know it my son I know it: he also shall become a people and he also SHalL be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he and his seed shall become a multitude ~of~ nations.


1944th vs. 411th vs. of Exodus 15:23 1204 9 9
And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter therefore the name of it was called Marah41.

TheForgiven
04-11-2008, 11:29 AM
475 is the total ENGLISH GEMATRIA FOR Gen 15:19 and down the line

Hello again Watchman. I'm not sure if anyone has asked you this question already, but just in case, here it goes.

Since English didn't exist during the days of the beginning (Adam and Eve), nor did it exist in the first century, how then can you explain your connections using english gamatria (as you call it)?

English is a fairly young language if I'm not mistaken.

Joe

Watchman232
04-11-2008, 12:38 PM
THE MOST HIGH ELOHIYM

TheForgiven
04-11-2008, 02:49 PM
Ahh, I see. So God structured all scriptural passages involving numbers to convey a hidden message using the English gamatria method.

How then could the early church even understand a hidden meaning, if the english language didn't exist during their days? After all, Revelation encourages the early church when John is told to say, "Blessed is he who reads (alouds) and understands the words of this book, for the time is near."

I guess they didn't have a chance to understand it because the English language wouldn't exist for quite a few centuries.

I fail to see the connection in this.

Joe

Richard Amiel McGough
04-11-2008, 02:52 PM
Id think long and hard about what you see... open the one you closed and let me Edit it or DELETE ENTIRELY NOW...when it was closed the last verse shown is incorrect, it was just being double checked , the real verse is COMPLETELY AMAZING< the correct chapter and Verse is Psalms 126:1 compare to Result #12
Hey there Watchman232,

I deleted that post. I had left it up only so I could write you a note not to repeat posts like that in the future.

God bless,

Richard

Watchman232
04-12-2008, 09:08 PM
1st 144.......475 :The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, Genesis 15:19

1762 :And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed. Genesis 19:17 (475th verse)

286 :four hundred seventy five

762 :And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters. Genesis 11:19 (286th)........................................... ....... 209 2 plus 9 11....reduced gematria

294 :seven hundred sixty two

748 :Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. Genesis 11:27 (294th).........................Terah occurs 11 times in 9 verses.......Haran occurs 19 times

272 :seven hundred forty eight

733 :And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. Genesis 11:5 (272nd)........................................... .....................tower occurs 48 times in 43 verses...48 plus 43 equals 91

295 :seven hundred thirty three

717 :And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees. Genesis 11:28
...................19............................. .....11 times 9 verses

248 :seven hundred seventeen

470 :And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim

89 :Mizraim 4 times
59 :Ludim 2 times
51 :Anamim, 2 times
50 :Lehabim 2 times
110 :Naphtuhim 2 times
111 :and begat and and and

Who can figure this one out, maybe you are one of the 144,000

Watchman232
04-13-2008, 04:11 AM
NINETEEN DIFFERENT WORDS EQUAL 144 IN THE KJV , THIS IS THE BOOK UNSEALED, IT COULDN'T BE UNDERSTOOD UNTIL NOW: Shema Yisra'el YAHUWAH ELOHEYNU YAHUWAH ECHAD


1st 144.......475 :The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, Genesis 15:19
(380th)

1762 :And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed Genesis 19:17 (475th vs.)

286 :four hundred seventy five

762 :And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters Genesis 11:19 (286)............................................. ..... 209 2 plus 9 11

294 :seven hundred sixty two

748 :Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. Genesis 11:27 (294th)...............................Terah occurs 11 times in 9 verses.......Haran occurs 19 times

272 :seven hundred forty eight

733 :And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. Genesis 11:5 (272nd)........................................... ...tower occurs 48 times in 43 verses...48 plus 43 equals 91

295 :seven hundred thirty three

717 :And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees. Genesis 11:28 (295)........................19................... ....11 times 9 vs.


248 :seven hundred seventeen

470 :And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim Genesis 10:13 (248)

89 :Mizraim 4 times
59 :Ludim 2 times
51 :Anamim, 2 times
50 :Lehabim 2 times
110 :Naphtuhim 2 times
111 :and begat and and and

Who can figure this one out, maybe you are one of the 144,000


244 :four hundred seventy

1024 :He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD Genesis
10:9 occurs twice in one verse

303 one thousand twenty four

1277 :So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran Genesis 12:4 (244) Latitude of San Diego 33 Longitude 117

Sum=171 :seventy and five

1097 :And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. Genesis 7:17...1 plus 7/8 .... 78 :increased
(171st) Joel 3:2 ....parted MY Land 133 > Forty Days 133

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443 one thousand two hundred seventy seven

1026 :Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? Genesis 18:18(443)

295 one thousand twenty six

PRAISE Ha ADONAI ELOHIYM....TESHUVAH, Repent, Find out what you should be doing to be in the secret place of the MOST HIGH , when the tribulation begins on September 11th 2008, 500,000 deaths in San Diego JULY 8th 2008

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BARUCH ATAH YESHUA MELECH HA ALOM

Blessed be JESUS KING of the universe

TheForgiven
04-13-2008, 05:36 PM
PRAISE Ha ADONAI ELOHIYM....TESHUVAH, Repent, Find out what you should be doing to be in the secret place of the MOST HIGH , when the tribulation begins on September 11th 2008, 500,000 deaths in San Diego JULY 8th 2008

Actually, what I do know is that the Great Tribulation happened in the first century. I can prove it.


Matthew 24
15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Easy points.

1. When you see the abomination of Desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel....

This, according to Futurists, is yet to come. However, that is highly impossible because Luke describes the same event in this way:


Luke 21:20
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

So you see? Luke's "surrounding of Jerusalem" is Matthews reference to Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation". This was fulfilled in 70AD.

2. The Tribulation happened in Judea and Jerusalem. Christ explicitly tells them (The Apostles) to feel Judea when they saw the armies of Jerusalem (Abomination of Desolation) surrounding Jerusalem. Thus, your mistaken idea of the Great Tribulation happening in San Diego is WAY off the mark....not even close. You're sadly more than 2000 years late. And trust me, if you or I were around in their day, we'd certainly think the world was coming to an end.

3. This Tribulation is never to be equaled or likened again. Now I know thousands of Futurists try comparing the number of European Jews who died at the hands of Adolph Hitler to that of the first century Romans. But the mistake in this is that the Tribulation wasn't about numbers, but type. Josephus records more than a million Jews died by famine, starvation, pestilence, disease, or cannibalism. And cannibalism was the clue that Christ mentioned to the women who bore children. He testifies to this even further on the cross, as the women weeped for Him. Yet He says:


“Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. 29 For indeed the days are coming in which they will say, ‘Blessed are the barren, wombs that never bore, and breasts which never nursed!’

......cannibalism my friends! Absolute horror!

4. One final point. After Jesus said to the women not to weep for Him as I indicated above, he also said this:


30 Then they will begin ‘to say to the mountains, “Fall on us!” and to the hills, “Cover us!”’ 31 For if they do these things in the green wood, what will be done in the dry?”

This phrase is repeated in Revelation 6:


15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

In conclusion, the Great Tribulation happened in the first century, as testified by the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and the very words of our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Messiah. Furthermore, Christ proves to use that the Great Tribulation is the Day of Wrath. And when that wrath had come, they would say to the mountains, "Fall on us" and "Hide us". This is a figure of speech or metaphor for the people crying to the government (Mountains) to protect them from the wrath of God. God used the Romans to accomplish His purpose in destroying and punishing apostate Israel. Lastly, this is exemplified in Revelation chapter 6, proving without doubt that Revelation was about the destruction of Jerusalem, the Beastly Roman Empire, and how all of this ties in with Christ as King. Although the Roman Empire appeared victorious in many ways, by destroying the apostate Jews and killing thousands of Christians, in time it was they (The Romans) which were being delivered into the mighty hands of Christ. Actually, they (The Romans) were under the control of Christ the entire time. For HE is King!

The Great Tribulation is done Watchman. I'd pay more attention to the context and not the numerator. :D

Joe

Watchman232
04-15-2008, 05:23 PM
YAH MAZING NEW REVELATIONS IN ENGLISH GEMATRIA> IN Daniel we are told that the BOOK is Sealed until the time of the end... YAHUWAH has used the English translation of the King James Version to unlock the scripures. HE is ALOT Smarter than we are and with HIM NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! HE knew what language would be used the most world wide in our day. He orchestrated it. (just consider aviation, all in English) www.onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com Idolatry is putting God in a box and say ing HE can do this but not that, a god after our own heart... THE PROOF is beyond doubt if your Truly Truly honest and seeking: Baruch atah ADONAI YESHUA HA MASHIYACH MELECH HA ALOM
Shalom
Katriel

TheForgiven
04-16-2008, 07:51 AM
YAH MAZING NEW REVELATIONS IN ENGLISH GEMATRIA> IN Daniel we are told that the BOOK is Sealed until the time of the end... YAHUWAH has used the English translation of the King James Version to unlock the scripures. HE is ALOT Smarter than we are and with HIM NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! HE knew what language would be used the most world wide in our day. He orchestrated it. (just consider aviation, all in English)

Yes my friend, God is a lot smarter than us. That's why if He wrote the Bible Himself, there would be no translation problems for anyone. However, man wrote under His (God's) inspiration. But humans are not perfect. And the King James Bible is far less than pefect, with the most errors I'd say. I personally use the New King James Version because it seeks to correct many of the 1611 King James Version. Therefore, I would not even come close to saying that God used the 1611 King James version to reveal His truths; that Bible is not efficient because of its ancient language. If anything, the original New Testament was written in Greek, and the Old Testament was written in Hebrew. English has nothing to do with either of them, for English is just another translation from the multiple and unmatched text the copiers use.

DANIEL: SEALED UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END

The time of the end to Daniel was about 500 or so years. Daniel is told to "SEAL" the words until the time of the end. Yet John was told "NOT TO SEAL" the words because the time was near. Thus, about a 500 year difference. If Daniel's "Future" is John's "Present" as indicated by scripture, then the time of the end has long been fulfilled. And the "end" came in 70AD, Daniel's people and city were killed/destroyed. See Matthew 24.


www.onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com Idolatry is putting God in a box and say ing HE can do this but not that, a god after our own heart... THE PROOF is beyond doubt if your Truly Truly honest and seeking: Baruch atah ADONAI YESHUA HA MASHIYACH MELECH HA ALOM
Shalom
Katriel

Who puts God in a box? Is it not those who say that God never accomplishes anything, to anyone, unless they actually see it? Or is God about Faith? God is not about sight, but Faith, and Faith, as we know, is about the things we believe of which we do not see. Preterist believe, even though we do not see, because we seek to understand without relying on our eyes.

Remember Thomas, who would not believe unless he physically thrusts his fingers into the wounds of the Lord? That is how Futurist are; they will not believe anything is fulfilled unless someone writes it down for them, or they themselves witness Jesus surfing the clouds.

Joe

Watchman232
04-18-2008, 07:44 AM
THE BOOK IS UNSEALED BEYOND ANY DOUBT.. www.onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com

basilfo
04-19-2008, 04:40 AM
Hey I think I saw watchman the other day on the street corner wearing a sandwich board telling people: "The end is near!! The end is near!!"

Matt. 16:27, 28, For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to His deeds. "Truly I say to you, there are some who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
Matt.24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Rom. 13:12, “The night is nearly over; the day is almost here.”
Rom. 16:20, “The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.”
I Cor. 7:29 and 31, “The time is short. This world in its present form is passing away.”
I Cor. 10:11, “These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.”
Hebrews 10:37, “In just a very little while, He who is coming will come and will not delay.”
James 5:7-9, “Be patient until the Lord’s coming. The Lord’s coming is near.“The judge is standing at the door.”
I Peter 4:7, “The end of all things has drawn near.”
I John 2:18, "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.
Rev. 22:6, 7, "And he said to me, "These words are faithful and true"; ... the things which must soon take place. "And behold, I am coming quickly....
Rev. 22:10, 12, And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.

Strange that he would repeat exactly what Jesus and all the apostles taught. Only one could be right. Who do you think it is?????

Continuing with all this nonsense only helps unsuspecting readers classify Christianity as a kook religion. We have enough false teachers parading around disguised as true Christian leaders like Benny Hinn, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, Harold Camping, and many others. It's a sad thing.

Richard Amiel McGough
04-19-2008, 07:39 AM
Hey I think I saw watchman the other day on the street corner wearing a sandwich board telling people: "The end is near!! The end is near!!"

Matt. 16:27, 28, For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to His deeds. "Truly I say to you, there are some who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
Matt.24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Rom. 13:12, 'The night is nearly over; the day is almost here.'
Rom. 16:20, 'The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.'
I Cor. 7:29 and 31, 'The time is short. This world in its present form is passing away.'
I Cor. 10:11, 'These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.'
Hebrews 10:37, 'In just a very little while, He who is coming will come and will not delay.'
James 5:7-9, 'Be patient until the Lord’s coming. The Lord’s coming is near.'The judge is standing at the door.'
I Peter 4:7, 'The end of all things has drawn near.'
I John 2:18, "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.
Rev. 22:6, 7, "And he said to me, "These words are faithful and true"; ... the things which must soon take place. "And behold, I am coming quickly....
Rev. 22:10, 12, And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.

Strange that he would repeat exactly what Jesus and all the apostles taught. Only one could be right. Who do you think it is?????

Continuing with all this nonsense only helps unsuspecting readers classify Christianity as a kook religion. We have enough false teachers parading around disguised as true Christian leaders like Benny Hinn, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, Harold Camping, and many others. It's a sad thing.
Yep, the verses you quoted show that the plain text of the Bible unambiguous teaches that the end was in the first century. But even if folks misunderstood that, it astounds me that they could think that obscure number patterns that they can not even explain could be interpreted as predicting the date of the end. I'm just glad that watchman232 will know the faslehood of his claims in just a few months, unlike Haarold Camping who went on for years predicting the end in 1994. Of course, there is no reason to think a failed date will teach watchman anything, since date-setters seem to have a built-in aversion to contrary evidence. In the case of Camping, he claims that his date of 1994 was perfectly accurate, but that he missed the intepretation slightly - it wasn't the end of the world, it the end of the church age and the beginning of the Great Tribulation! :lol:

You know someone is in a very deep pit when direct, incontrovertible, plain and obvious evidence fails to convince. It's a good thing that Christ came to save those who were in such a pit, which includes all of us, of course.

Richard

TheForgiven
04-19-2008, 06:10 PM
Hello all,

I think I solved my computer problems. It seems the Microsoft Office 2003 version was causing problems. I purchased the Office 2007, and now all the security patches are updated. Everything is working like a charm.

Now, back to business.

I always enjoy when brother Dave quotes all of the time statements. It's a stern reminder to Preterist of how true and correct our interpretations are. It also shows that we do not have to twist the meaning of certain words in order to force-fit our eschatology. We also interpret wisely when we identify certain passages to be metaphorically expressed. Visions, as we all know, are mostly metaphoric expressions explaining either an event to pass, or an event which is taking place. I think that's why many futurist have such a difficult time interpreting prophesy; they look too much at the word and not the thought.

Great job Dave, and thanks for the Gentry link; I've got a lot of reading to do.

Brother Joe

Nice to be with you all again.

basilfo
04-19-2008, 08:16 PM
Hi Joseph,
Always good to 'hear' from you. Gentry's book 'Before Jerusalem Fell' is terrific. But it's not a quick read, so be ready to dig in. I learned quite a bit and am convinced Rev was written with 70AD in John's future, not the rear view mirror.

I never hear a good answer from any 'late-daters' (those who believe Rev was written in 95AD) on what 'events must shortly take place' (Rev 1:1). What events SHORTLY AFTER 95 AD took place that bear any resemblance to the contents of Rev?

On the other hand, the events of 70AD can be seen so clearly in John's vision. But you have to understand the context of the OD and Daniel first. If you take Rev alone, you wind up with the fantastic interp's that we see all over the place today. It's a shame.

Peace to you all,
Dave

(Harold Camping has another date lined up Joseph - it's May 2011. That's the 'end of time'. Can't wait to tune him in that summer.)

Watchman232
04-20-2008, 05:33 AM
THUS SAYS YAHUWAH ELOHIYM www.onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com

Watchman232
04-20-2008, 05:49 AM
THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD www.Onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com

Richard Amiel McGough
04-20-2008, 07:24 AM
THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD www.Onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com (http://www.Onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com)
I am sorry watchman, but I really have no interest in hosting your false claims about God. I was letting you post here to give you a chance to interact with intelligent people to help you see the errors of your ways. But you have not taken advantage of my offer. I ask you simple and direct questions concering your claims and I get no repsonse. Then you double post links to your incoherent pages after repeated requests that you refrain from doing that. This forum is not your own personal advertising spot. So think it is time to limit your posting priviledges to this forum only. If you care to discuss it, you can contact me through email.

RAM (Administrator)

Watchman232
05-10-2008, 11:04 PM
1st ) Kenizzites
380th vs. Genesis 15:19 475 1 5 1 9 4 7 5 32 3+2 5 8

* the kenites, and the kenizzites, and the kadmonites


475th vs. Genesis 19:17 1762 5 7
And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, escape for thy life look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed. 1762

1762 762 2524th vs. Exodus 34:27 1305
~A~nd t~he~ ` LORD s~~~a`id u~nto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

286th vs. Gen 11:19 762 2 8 6 1 1 1 9 7 6 2 7 1 1 1 9 7 6 2 27 2+7 9
And peleg lived after he begat reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters. 762

17~~~888~~~62nd vs. Exodus 9:19 1944 9 1 9 1 9 4 4 37 3+7 10
Send

therefore now, and gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field; for upon every man and beast which shall be found in the field, and shall not be brought home, the hail shall come down upon them, and they shall die.

* U1944R m1204 3148th vs. 402nd vs. leviticus 14:36 1929 1929
* Then the priest shall command that they empty the house, before the priest go into it to see the plague,

that

all that is in the house be not made unclean: and afterward the priest shall go in to see the house

1929th vs. 396th vs. Exodus 15:8 1471 9 3
and with the Blast of Thy nostrils the33 waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.
1471st vs. Genesis 48:19 1922
And ` his father refused and said I know it my son I know it: he also shall become a people and he also SHalL be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he and his seed shall become a multitude ~of~ nations.


1944th vs. 411th vs. of Exodus 15:23 1204 9 9
And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter therefore the name of it was called Marah41.

Watchman232
05-10-2008, 11:05 PM
1944th vs. 411th vs. of Exodus 15:23 1204 9 9
And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter therefore the name of it was called Marah41.

1204th vs. Genesis 41:8 2139 35 28
And it came to pass in the morning that his spirit was troubled, and he sent and called for all the magicians: of egypt and all the wise men thereof and pharaoh told them his dream but there was none that could interpret them unto pharaoh.

2139th vs. Exodus 22:25 1418
If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

1418th vs. Genesis 46:31 1752 29 43
And Joseph said unto his brethren, and unto his father's house, I will go up, and show pharaoh, and say unto him, My brethren, and my father's house, which were in the land of Canaan, are come unto me

1752nd vs. Exodus 9:9 1400
And it shall become small dust in all the land of egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of egypt

1400th vs. Genesis 46:13 522
and the Sons of Issachar, tola, and Phuvah and job and Shimron.

Watchman232
05-10-2008, 11:06 PM
522nd vs. Genesis 21:8 722
And the child grew, and was weaned and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.

722nd vs. Genesis 26:29 1610

That thou wilt do us no hurt, as we have not touched thee, and as we have done unto thee nothing but good, and have sent thee away in peace: thou art now the blessed of the LORD.


1610 1429 3039th vs. Leviticus 11:41 878 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.

1610th vs. Exodus 4:8 1429
and it shall come

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to

* pass
o , if t
1. hey will not believe Thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.


1429th vs. Genesis 47:8 400
And pharaoh said unto Jacob. How old art thou?

400th vs. Genesis 17:2 749 34 30
And I will make my covenant between me and thee and will multiply thee exceedingly.

749th vs. Genesis 27:21 1058
And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near,_______ I pray thee: that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son, esau o\r not

1058th vs. Genesis 36:17 1674

* and these are

the

o sons of

+ Reuel

1.

1. esau's

son duke Nahath, duke Zerah, duke shammah, duke Mizzah. These are. THe dukes that came Of Reuel in the land Of Edom these are the sons of bASHeMath esau's wife,


762nd vs. Genesis 27:34 1270
and when esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, bless me, even me also, O my father.

1270th vs. Genesis 42:17 467
And he put them all together into ward three days

467th vs. Genesis 19:19 1902
Behold now, Thy servant hath found grace in Thy sight. and Thou hast magnified Thy mercy. which Thou hast showed unto Me in saving my life, and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die,

1902nd vs. Exodus 14:12 1946
is not this the word that we did tell Thee in egypt. saying let us alone, that we may serve the egyptians. For it had been, better for us, to serve the egyptians, than that we should die in the wilderness.

1946th vs. Exodus 15:25 1704
And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD showed him a tree, which when He had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there He made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there He proved them,

1704th vs. Exodus 7:18 1015
And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

1015th vs. Genesis 35:3 1424
And let us arise, and go up to Bethel and I will make there an altar unto God. Who answered me in the day of My distress, and was with me in the way which I went.

1424 1405 2829th vs. Leviticus 4:33 1187 A~nd ~h`~e ~shal~l l ay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they kill the burnt offering.

1424th vs. Genesis 47:3 1405
And pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? and they said unto pharaoh, thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

1405th vs. Genesis 46:18 1042
These are the Sons of Zilpah, whom Laban gave to Leah his daughter, and these she bare unto Jacob, even sixteen souls.

1042nd vs. Genesis 36:1 471
Now these are the generations of esau, who is Edom

471st vs. Genesis 19:13 1278
for we will, destroy this place, because the cry of them is!! waxen great before the face of the LORD and the LORD hath sent US !!! t2o destroy It.

1278th vs. Genesis 42:25 1599

1. Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn and to restore every mans money into
his
sack and to give them provision for the way and thus did he unto them.


1599th vs. 66th vs Exodus 3:19 762
and I am sure that the king of egypt will not let you go, no, not by a Mighty Hand.

73 egypt 73rd vs. genesis 3:17 2278 30

1.
* and unto Adam, HE Said, Because thou hast hearkened
o unto
the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life
2. 2278th vs. Exodus 27:5 1023 and thou shalt put it under the compass of the altar beneath, that the net may be eVen ~~to ~~~the midst of the altar.

Watchman232
05-10-2008, 11:08 PM
WWW.ONEHUNDREDFORTYFOURTHOUSAND.blogspot.com

Victor
07-25-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm pasting Richard's post elsewhere (http://www.biblewheel.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=7838) on this forum:

Well, another false prophet has been confirmed. I don't say "exposed" because it was already obvious that he was false. But now that his date has come and gone, he is outrageous error is confirmed.

:Date_Setting:

But on the upside, Watchman232 did apologise on his site (what else could he do?). Here's what he wrote on one of his many websites:

http://www.californiajudgment2008.ci...ge/4415325.htm




CALIFORNIA WATCH 2008
This site "was" dedicated to documenting the mountain of evidence July 8, 2008 could have been the next Major Judgment Date to fulfill Holy Scripture!!!
http://www.californiajudgment2008.citymax.com/l/1300/1350_s.jpg

July 9, 2008 > Today is July 9 and as far as we can see we are past the primary danger timezone of July 8, 2008 for Southwest California. We always said from day one we did not know 100% for sure if any calamity would happen only that the evidence met the minimum threshold to take precautionary action.
Many people in the end came to that same conclusion as well so we had to come forward and make the evidence public and err on the side of caution and let everyone decide for themselves if they wanted to react to this information or not.
We sincerely apologize to anyone who might have gotten upset by this. Obviously it never was a pleasant topic to have to deal with. At the same time we are truly thankful the day has past and no one got hurt from a major calamity in California.

Richard Amiel McGough
02-10-2011, 11:25 PM
THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD www.Onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com (http://www.onehundredfortyfour.blogspot.com/)

I am sorry watchman, but I really have no interest in hosting your false claims about God. I was letting you post here to give you a chance to interact with intelligent people to help you see the errors of your ways. But you have not taken advantage of my offer. I ask you simple and direct questions concering your claims and I get no repsonse. Then you double post links to your incoherent pages after repeated requests that you refrain from doing that. This forum is not your own personal advertising spot. So think it is time to limit your posting priviledges to this forum only. If you care to discuss it, you can contact me through email.

RAM (Administrator)
That was a post from 2008 when I was trying to reason with Watchman232 when he was using English Gematria to predict half a million deaths in San Diego that year. Note his old blog was called onehundredfortyfour which is equivalent to the third name he used, 144, when he recently registered again on this forum. You can read about his blatant lies and why I banned him here (http://biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?p=28015#post28015).

I would love to know what it would take for futurists to admit that their interpretations of the Bible are false. This guy has been proven totally wrong, and yet he persists in his error. Is this true of all religious thinking? Is this the way all "believers" think? Are believers immune to evidence that contradicts their beliefs? How do you know your beliefs in God and the Bible are true? What would it take to prove your religion is wrong?

Tough questions, I know, but I think it's time we asked them. I've had my fill of crazed Bible thumpers who would just as soon lie to my face as say "Praise the Lord."