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Rose
12-17-2011, 10:06 AM
A good interview with presidential candidate Ron Paul, he seems to have the best ideas with a intelligent "thinking" head on his shoulders.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VMUZIVYuluc#!

kathryn
12-17-2011, 10:14 AM
I agree Sis! (that is, from my perspective as a Canuck:-) :thumb:

heb13-13
12-17-2011, 10:56 AM
The Forgiven would disagree with you.

http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?2478-99-Percent-protest-Wall-Street-Corporations-and-Big-Banks/page13&highlight=wall+street


Ron Paul believes that people have a right to live, but they are responsible for their own health. Well perhaps he'd like to explain what to do with companies who drastically pollute our air, poison our land and water with toxins, and allow grocery stores to sell food infected with diseases! Should people in a free market society be responsible for their own health when many of our health problems come from pollution, poisoned air and water, and infected foods? And government is supposed to just sit back and let this garbage happen? Ron Paul would seem to think so. But you don't see Germany having this problem. It's reported that Germany has health care for everyone. Why can't we do the same? Are doctors only for the rich? Is medical treatment only for the rich?

Finally, besides the fact that Ron Paul is a racist [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAm2b...ature=related] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAm2bDfnHaY&feature=related]), he's also an opportunist. I wonder just how much in taxes did Ron Paul pay with his Internet contributions. The man thrives on controversy and relies heavily on the Internet to generate his wealth. And this money isn't coming from working class families of America. It's coming from the Rich people who wanted his support from the smaller voices of America (Top 2%) who will use governmental powers to protect them from the rest of society, and allow them (in a free market society) to extort as much money for profit as they can. This means Banks could do what ever they want, Big Oil could do what ever they want, and the very top 2% percent could do what ever they want, and the rest of us who refuse to pay our checks to their inflated service values, can simply just die.

Ron Paul for President? I thank God that this racist pig doesn't have a snow balls chance in hell of being elected!

Rose
12-17-2011, 11:17 AM
The Forgiven would disagree with you.

http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?2478-99-Percent-protest-Wall-Street-Corporations-and-Big-Banks/page13&highlight=wall+street

Welcome to the wonderful world of politics...:lol:

TheForgiven
12-19-2011, 08:38 AM
A good interview with presidential candidate Ron Paul, he seems to have the best ideas with a intelligent "thinking" head on his shoulders.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VMUZIVYuluc#!

You have to keep in mind that Ron Paul, like any Politician, is going to say what people on his side want to hear. We cannot have a government that runs solely off of verbal ideology without the facts to prove ones case. For instance, he believes that the government should not tell American citizens how to spend its money. But without supporting detail to explain what he means, this statement blows over as a blanket statement, and is too general in meaning. What does he mean? He's talking about government taxing the rich corporations, as though this were a bad thing. Statistically, based on whole-dollar comparison, rich folks EARNING more than a million dollars a year only pay about 22% percent Federal income taxes from money gross annually, while middle class working families end up paying 26% percent of their income on a monthly basis to Federal income taxes. Now what the GOP likes to do is talk about total group-percentage when it comes to the wealthy paying taxes. They argue that the very wealthy American's pay 47% percent of the overall Federal Taxes. Well, that may be true, but logic alone shows that the ones who make the most money are going to pay a combined higher percentage; especially considering that the top 2% percent of wealthiest American's earn more than 60% percent of America's wealth on an annual basis, while the middle class and the Fed ends up fighting for the remaining 40% percent; this is not enough to sustain working class families in America, nor the Federal government.

As stated, the top 2% percent only pay about 22% percent annual Federal taxes (although they pay no monthly Federal taxes), and this is on income they actually report. This does not include the billions of dollars hiding in offshore accounts; something no middle class worker could ever do seeing that our checks are garnished of all taxes and deductions before we even receive a deposit slip.

Another problem with Ron Paul his his blanket statement of personal accountability. It's easy to point the finger at struggling families and accuse them of not spending their money correctly. But this is yet another example of how the IRRESPONSIBILITIES of the wealthy are leaving the middle class workers with fewer choices to sustain themselves. For the past 30 years, middle class wages have not increased enough to match the climbing cost of living. Meanwhile the top 2% percent have seen a ragingly high 380% percent increase in their net wealth. So who was being responsible, and who was not being responsible? The irresponsibilities of the wealthy have left America broke, middle class workers diving deeper into poverty, and yet these same quacks have the gall to accuse poor people in America of being poor because it's our own fault? That makes no sense. If someone has been employed with a company for 20+ years, and directly contributed to the success of that company, only to be let go because of off-shore outsourcing, how is that the workers fault? Thus, the middle class ends up having to adjust their lives by the choices made by the rich. And as we've seen the past 30 years, the rich have done nothing but extort profits from labor, causing workers to work very long hours, with very little money to show for it. So in essence, what Ron Paul is saying is that the Federal Government should not get involved when a company is ripping off the American citizens with their low wages, low taxes, high prices, high pollution, and failure to sustain the health of its employee's (especially in dangerous jobs). Meanwhile the CEO's and the rich will buy up vast amounts of property, close that property off to the general public, and higher illegals to tend to the house work and yard upkeep.

Finally, on a personal note, if Ron Paul thinks that government should in essence, remain out of the lives of all American's, especially corporations, then he needs to explain what we even need a government. You certainly don't hear him complaining about his paycheck. :lol: I don't hear him complaining about the life-time 100% percent retirement he's going to get after only serving 4 years as a Politician. Oh but everyone else has to fend for themselves.

There are so many other facts that I can point out showing just how much of a hypocrite Ron Paul is, despite his rather hidden racist attitude, but a man like this in the House is very destructive to a society, and would be the firs tone to duck and hide if our country ever got attacked.

A society cannot be governed by an ideology alone; it must have facts to support its case. And this "you're on your own" mentality that he proposes is not what Jesus would teach.

Joe