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RC Christian
11-16-2011, 07:26 AM
Greetings to all.

It looks like I get the privilege to kick-off this new section on the Board, so I'll begin by explaining what information will be found in the links that I'll be including in this post. The attached links are YouTube videos involving debates and discussions given by some of the more recognized and respected atheists/deists/agnostics and skeptics that routinely engage in "the battle of the wits" with Christian apologists. Much can be learned by believers and non-believers by just being open-minded and using reason/logic when watching the debates and discussions. One important point to note is that basically all of the Christian apologists don't do much in the way of 'defending Christianity' per se, but defend the proposition of "is there a God or not". Obviously, there is no way to disprove that "God" does not exist, since it becomes obvious in the videos that God can be anything from Yahweh of the OT, to a mystical, primary force that we don't understand. Some of the apologists will go as far as alluding to a "personal God" concept, but will usually retreat once the skeptic starts to hone-in on that supposition. Just once, I'd love to see one of the "Christian" or "Jewish" apologist actually attempt to defend the "God" that over 150 million people in the US alone believes in and use honesty in admitting that this belief is based on the Bible being the "inspired Word of God"...and then the fun would really begin. Anyway, hope you enjoy...and I will continue updating this thread as time permits.

I'll post the lead link into each series and you can locate each consecutive link on the face-page of the first link ...sometimes you may have to get a little 'creative' and type in the search what the next similar title should be, if you don't see the link on the primary link page.



1) Hitchens vs Hitchens (Christopher Hitchens debating his brother Peter Hitchens)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnVQLOd9Lg


2) Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry debating with Catholic leadership on the topic of "Is the Catholic Church a Source of Good in the World"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFYpuYh6w0&feature=related


3) Sam Harris vs William Lane Craig debating "Does Good come from God"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8wUOUmM1OA&feature=related


4) Richard Dawkins at the "Big Debate" -The Place for Religion in a 21st Century Modern School

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-S7M0KZTsU


5) Daniel Dennett vs Dinesh D'Souza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4



...several hours worth of intellectual stimulation!

Richard Amiel McGough
11-16-2011, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the links. But for future reference, you can embed the videos directly into the post so a person can watch them here on our forum. Just click the icon that looks like a movie clip on the second row of icons in the Editor:


1) Hitchens vs Hitchens (Christopher Hitchens debating his brother Peter Hitchens)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnVQLOd9Lg


2) Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry debating with Catholic leadership on the topic of "Is the Catholic Church a Source of Good in the World"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFYpuYh6w0&feature=related


3) Sam Harris vs William Lane Craig debating "Does Good come from God"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8wUOUmM1OA&feature=related


4) Richard Dawkins at the "Big Debate" -The Place for Religion in a 21st Century Modern School


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-S7M0KZTsU


5) Daniel Dennett vs Dinesh D'Souza


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4

RC Christian
11-16-2011, 12:43 PM
Thanks Richard...I will use the icons from hence forward. :signthankspin:

Richard Amiel McGough
11-16-2011, 12:48 PM
Thanks Richard...I will use the icons from hence forward. :signthankspin:
Yeah, I'm just thrilled with the new software. We've been running on vB 3.x since 2007. The web has made a lot of progress since then! It's great to be able to do such "ordinary" things as embedding videos now. And I've got about a hundred other things I'm planning to add to this site.

RC Christian
11-16-2011, 04:18 PM
...I only wish I had joined the Forums sooner! Thanks for all your doing...you the man!

Rose
11-16-2011, 08:27 PM
Greetings to all.

It looks like I get the privilege to kick-off this new section on the Board, so I'll begin by explaining what information will be found in the links that I'll be including in this post. The attached links are YouTube videos involving debates and discussions given by some of the more recognized and respected atheists/deists/agnostics and skeptics that routinely engage in "the battle of the wits" with Christian apologists. Much can be learned by believers and non-believers by just being open-minded and using reason/logic when watching the debates and discussions. One important point to note is that basically all of the Christian apologists don't do much in the way of 'defending Christianity' per se, but defend the proposition of "is there a God or not". Obviously, there is no way to disprove that "God" does not exist, since it becomes obvious in the videos that God can be anything from Yahweh of the OT, to a mystical, primary force that we don't understand. Some of the apologists will go as far as alluding to a "personal God" concept, but will usually retreat once the skeptic starts to hone-in on that supposition. Just once, I'd love to see one of the "Christian" or "Jewish" apologist actually attempt to defend the "God" that over 150 million people in the US alone believes in and use honesty in admitting that this belief is based on the Bible being the "inspired Word of God"...and then the fun would really begin. Anyway, hope you enjoy...and I will continue updating this thread as time permits.

I'll post the lead link into each series and you can locate each consecutive link on the face-page of the first link ...sometimes you may have to get a little 'creative' and type in the search what the next similar title should be, if you don't see the link on the primary link page.



1) Hitchens vs Hitchens (Christopher Hitchens debating his brother Peter Hitchens)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnVQLOd9Lg


2) Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry debating with Catholic leadership on the topic of "Is the Catholic Church a Source of Good in the World"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFYpuYh6w0&feature=related


3) Sam Harris vs William Lane Craig debating "Does Good come from God"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8wUOUmM1OA&feature=related


4) Richard Dawkins at the "Big Debate" -The Place for Religion in a 21st Century Modern School

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-S7M0KZTsU


5) Daniel Dennett vs Dinesh D'Souza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4



...several hours worth of intellectual stimulation!

Hi RC

Thanks for posting the video links...:signthankspin: I especially liked the one with Sam Harris debating William Lane Craig. My brother who is a professor and has a doctorate in philosophy from Notre Dame, knows William Lane Craig.

All the Best,
Rose

RC Christian
11-16-2011, 11:39 PM
Thank you for checking out the videos. I'll continue to add more...but this time using the "new and improved" features...which are great! If you don't mind me asking, what does your brother have to say about Craig? He tends to do well in the debates and is very knowledgeable, but he really gets on my nerves by side-stepping all the issues when he goes into his "We're not here to debate Christian theology" bit...He knows what the atheists are wanting to address...those issues that need to be addressed...supposed God condoned, and even order, murder, slavery, rape, stealing, etc. I know he's in the debate to win...but for crying out loud! Sorry...had to vent.