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    You're pretty much right Les.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Les View Post
    'The Church', ie. The Assembly, The Body of God, The Faithful Rement, were always in exsitance in one form or fashion, from Abram to this present day. 'The Church' was not some 'creation' that 'happened' in the First Century, as 'a' 'Sect' only....and 'sect' is just short for 'Section' or part.....which is what 'a' 'Remnent' is.

    Mat 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but [that] rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed [his] hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye [to it].

    Mat 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children.

    Mat 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered [him] to be crucified.

    I want to remind everyone that there is NO CURSE upon 'The Jews' today, any -more- or any -less-, that ANYONE else for rejecting Jesus Christ. The 'Judgment' of The Mosaic Law was passed and carried out in 70 AD

    Mat 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children.

    When it says 'children' it does not mean generation after generation...forever, to the end of time (the Bible says nothing about 'the end of time'), it means what is says...the children of the peole standing in front of Pilate. They could not take 'responceability for generations down the line, only their ('This Generation', first century) generation.

    Brother Les
    Yep! I agree. Thanks for making that clear Brother Les.

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    Originally Posted by Brother Les
    'The Church', ie. The Assembly, The Body of God, The Faithful Rement, were always in exsitance in one form or fashion, from Abram to this present day. 'The Church' was not some 'creation' that 'happened' in the First Century, as 'a' 'Sect' only....and 'sect' is just short for 'Section' or part.....which is what 'a' 'Remnent' is.

    Paul spoke of this in Romans 11 when speaking of the olive tree. It had been there all along. Abel was part of it, so were others, like Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, the Apostles....This is the olive tree of faith through the Spirit of God. There were branches that had to be cut off, like Cain, Ishmael, Esau, Achen, Hophni, Phinehas, Absalom, Judas, and the religious Jews of the time of the Temple destruction.....When Jesus gave Himself, the bad branches became evident again, and another trimming took place. But after Pentecost, the Gentiles were welcomed into the grafting process. The tree has not changed. Now that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile, anyone can belong and be grafted in to the tree through faith in Jesus. The tree never was Jewish. It's an Olive tree. Olive tree is synonimous with the Holy Spirit. The Jewish people just happened to have the majority of the branches from Moses to Jesus.

    God Bless Don

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    Originally Posted by Brother Les
    'The Church', ie. The Assembly, The Body of God, The Faithful Rement, were always in exsitance in one form or fashion, from Abram to this present day. 'The Church' was not some 'creation' that 'happened' in the First Century, as 'a' 'Sect' only....and 'sect' is just short for 'Section' or part.....which is what 'a' 'Remnent' is.
    Paul spoke of this in Romans 11 when speaking of the olive tree. It had been there all along. Abel was part of it, so were others, like Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, the Apostles....This is the olive tree of faith through the Spirit of God. There were branches that had to be cut off, like Cain, Ishmael, Esau, Achen, Hophni, Phinehas, Absalom, Judas, and the religious Jews of the time of the Temple destruction.....When Jesus gave Himself, the bad branches became evident again, and another trimming took place. But after Pentecost, the Gentiles were welcomed into the grafting process. The tree has not changed. Now that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile, anyone can belong and be grafted in to the tree through faith in Jesus. The tree never was Jewish. It's an Olive tree. Olive tree is synonimous with the Holy Spirit. The Jewish people just happened to have the majority of the branches from Moses to Jesus.

    God Bless Don

    Right on Don. I had thought a moment or two about exstending the reality of 'The Assembly'...ie... Gods 'Church' to its' rightful place of 'at' The Creation. But I shortened that 'example' to Abram and his family as those of The Remnent of Gods Elect that were 'called out' from UR. Abram, being the Patriarch if the 'Israelite Dynasty. I wanted to point out that what is 'The Church' (The Body of God/Christ) was not some 'plan B', as some Dispensationalists teach, but was always and will always be in exsistance.


    Blessings
    Brother Les

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    Dr. Michael Brown on TV

    It looks like there will be some interesting lessons from Dr. Brown on iLife tv - check it out here:

    http://www.ilifetv.com/thinkitthru/

    They also have some online videos that look pretty interesting. I'll comment as I find time.

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    • Remember why we debate. We have nothing to lose but the errors we hold. Who but a stubborn fool would hold to errors once they have been exposed?

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