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    Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

    Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

    Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

    As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

    What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

    Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

    I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.

    Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

    Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

    As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

    What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

    Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

    I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.



    Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

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    Hello DL,

    If one believes in God and Satan the only logical conclusion that can be derived is to say that the greater evil is of course committed by God. All the blame must lie at the doorstep of God because he is the creator of both good and evil...there is no need to posit a greater evil to either because all begins with God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

    Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

    As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

    What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

    Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

    I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.

    Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

    Regards
    DL
    God always test humans like a merchant seeking valuable pearls. Satan was created for this purpose. It is like a multinational corporation seeking their cream executive to work in their companies in which they are subjected to stringent vocational tests and "tricky" interviews. This is to test if they were can handle stressful and uncertain situations. Are the multinational corporations wrong or to be blamed for using stringent vocational tests and "tricky" interviews to get the best suitable executives for their companies? So is God wrong or to be blamed for using stringent criterias and tests to get the best suitable people for the kingdom of heaven?

    Alpha and Omega does not mean the best and the worst. They are the beginning and last letter of the greek alphabets. It simply means that God is the beginning and the end of His creation; He can create and He can end His creation, God is the Alpha and the Omega.

    God is always above Satan and He uses Satan as a tool to test and to recruit suitable humans for His kingdom of heaven.


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    After laughing at your first, I pictured God needing a quality control mechanism. So much for his perfect works.

    Only a fool would think that a God, any of the Gods, would need such.

    Oh ye of little faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose View Post
    Hello DL,

    If one believes in God and Satan the only logical conclusion that can be derived is to say that the greater evil is of course committed by God. All the blame must lie at the doorstep of God because he is the creator of both good and evil...there is no need to posit a greater evil to either because all begins with God.

    All the best,
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    Thank the Gods and more to nature for intelligent replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    After laughing at your first, I pictured God needing a quality control mechanism. So much for his perfect works.

    Only a fool would think that a God, any of the Gods, would need such.

    Oh ye of little faith.

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    Yeah, CWH's view of God seems rather odd to me. It's like he's some bumbling tinkerer who just can't get it right, try as he may. This is very common amongst Christian apologists who try to "fix" the problems in the Bible. This leads to a great irony - they need to "fix" the problems because they begin with the assertion that the Bible is perfect! But wait ... if it is so perfect, why does it need so much "fixing"???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    After laughing at your first, I pictured God needing a quality control mechanism. So much for his perfect works.

    Only a fool would think that a God, any of the Gods, would need such.

    Oh ye of little faith.

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    Yes, carry on and laugh, soon you will cry.

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

    3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning —the first day.

    6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning —the second day.

    9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

    11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds. ” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning —the third day.

    14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning —the fourth day.

    20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning —the fifth day.

    24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

    26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    27 So God created mankind in his own image,
    in the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.
    28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground. ”

    29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food. ” And it was so.

    31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning —the sixth day.


    Show me verse in which God claimed his works of creation is PERFECT? What it says is that His creation is very good. Very good does not equate to perfect.

    God Bless His creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Yes, carry on and laugh, soon you will cry.
    Why would he cry? If God is going to raise all the Canaanites he commanded to be slaughtered and give them eternal life, why would DL have anything to fear from him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Amiel McGough View Post
    Why would he cry? If God is going to raise all the Canaanites he commanded to be slaughtered and give them eternal life, why would DL have anything to fear from him?
    Brilliant! So DL can continue to sin and do evil as long as he likes as after all, God will raise him up and gave him eternal life. The only way to eternal life is Love God with all your heart, soul and might and Love your neighbor as yourself. As long as you did the will of God, there is nothing to fear.

    God Bless.
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    Seek and You shall find,
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Brilliant! So DL can continue to sin and do evil as long as he likes as after all, God will raise him up and gave him eternal life. The only way to eternal life is Love God with all your heart, soul and might and Love your neighbor as yourself. As long as you did the will of God, there is nothing to fear.

    God Bless.
    You are the one who made up the ridiculous story that says God did no wrong when he commanded the Canaanites be slaughtered because he could raise them up again. I was only repeating your own logic back to you! And so you reject your own words. How ridiculous is that?

    I wish there were a way for me to show you how stupid you look every time your write "brilliant."
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