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    The source is God -- Jer2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    Two of the 4 gospels kept on flowing in a sense; Luke and John wrote other books..
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    The source is God -- Jer2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    Two of the 4 gospels kept on flowing in a sense; Luke and John wrote other books..
    LXX Jeremiah 2:13 uses for source πηγὴ, "pègè", πηγὴ ὕδατος ζωὴς, "pègè hudatos dzoès"

    John 4:6 has: πηγὴ ὕδατος ἁλλομένου εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον, "pègè hudatos allomenou eis dzoèn aionion"

    This same word πηγὴ is used in LXX to translate Hebrew "ed" in Genesis 2:6,

    πηγὴ δὲ ἀνέβαινεν ἐκ τῆς γῆς καὶ ἐπότιζεν πᾶν τὸ πρόσωπον τῆς γῆς,
    "pègè de anebainen ek tès gès kai epotidzen pan to prosopen tès gès"
    "and a fountain went up out of the earth en gave drink the whole face of the earth"

    Stupefying, ain't it?
    (since πηγὴ translates Hebrew אֵד, "ed", in numbers "1-4".

    But what to think of Matthew 25:35?
    ἐδίψησα καὶ ἐποτίσατέ με, "edipèsa kai epotisate me" , I was thirsty and you gave me drink
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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post

    The Four Rivers a type and PRECEPT of the Four Gospels, doncha think? Or maybe not, since only two of them Tigris and Euphrates still on the front burner..
    Well actually the Four Rivers of Eden imply the four directions, east, west, north and south. If the Garden of Eden represents the promise land of Israel then it would represent the four directions (four corners of the earth). I really don't see any connection to the four gospels. Although the rivers might symbolize water spritiually as in bring life to the garden and outside the garden was dry land. To which Adam were casted out of the garden of life unto the dry land of death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beck View Post
    Well actually the Four Rivers of Eden imply the four directions, east, west, north and south. If the Garden of Eden represents the promise land of Israel then it would represent the four directions (four corners of the earth). I really don't see any connection to the four gospels. Although the rivers might symbolize water spritiually as in bring life to the garden and outside the garden was dry land. To which Adam were casted out of the garden of life unto the dry land of death.
    The mist, "ed", of Genesis 2:6, translated in LXX as "pègè", source, fountain, might be well the source of the one river that seperates into four heads.

    So then God planted the garden right on the spot where the mist went up.

    And you even might think that the source of the river is right in the middle of the garden.

    Right in the place where he caused to grow (both) the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Strange thing:
    Gematria of "tree of life", עֵץ הַחַיִּים , is 233
    and gematria of "tree of knowledge of good and evil", עֵץ הַדַּעַת טוֹב וָרָע, is 932.
    233 :932 being 1:4.

    From this I do read that the garden (like the earth) has four corners and forms a square, like also the final-mem, as written in the Ashuri script, does.

    Even there are five letters in Hebrew alphabet that know a final-form.
    Four of them having an outstretched form (kaf-nun-pey-tsade) and one (mem) the form of a square,
    so also expressing a 1-4 pattern.


    Even Hebrew "arba" = four, shows something like that,
    "arba" gematria 273 = 21 x 13,
    while 13 = "echad", one.
    (21 being gematria of "ehyeh"= I am; 273 being also gematria of "rega"= indivisible moment, smallest unit of time (fraction of a second) - Paul's mystery (1Corinthians 15:51-52).

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    This is one to take note of again. The earth has already be relieved of the curse ascribed to Adam/Eve through the flood.

    And note Genesis 5:29,
    And he named him Noach, saying, "This one will give us rest from our work and from the toil of our hands from the ground, which the Lord has cursed."
    Also; through faith in Christ as the seed promised to Eve, the curse of the law of sin/death is removed/canceled and the curse of the law of moses is ended with it's removal. Rom 8:2 and Rev 22:


    22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

    4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
    1Thess 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
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