Salt of the Earth?

[duxrow]

Salt of the Earth ?

Salt is for flavor, it's the Lord's spice of Life,
And during a freeze, it helps melt the strife.
Salt makes you thirsty, so watch what you say..
It makes it more buoyant and lifts up your day.

Salt is for curing, to preserve right perspectives..
When used in a cut, it stings forth invectives!
Salt is for healing, or for scouring clean..
And a salty demeanor should never be mean.

Salt softens the water, can be used in a pinch..
And a saline solution makes seeing a cinch.
Salt is a crystal that always rings true,
And changes conduction in a chemical brew.

A sprinkle of salt for the tail of a bird,
or over your shoulder to see fate deferred.
A shaker of Salt, but don't over do it..
A Dead Sea comes forth if you misconstrue it.

A Covenant of Salt, and don't forget pepper,
It's not to be sneezed at: the spiritual leper.
Salted and swaddled, each one in his turn,
With passionate fire his candle to burn.

Oceans of hydrogen, stuff that goes "boom",
Heavens of oxygen for the flaming of doom..
Combustible matter, one spark will ignite,
Just as soon as the Salt's gone, they'll all see the Light!

"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man". Colossians 4:6

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...ess-male-ardor

You don't imagine God wants a whole plateful of salt, do you? NO, that probably wouldn't be appetizing –don’t you discard food that’s too salty?
He'd prefer a colorful dish with lots of variety; seeing He's such a diverse God. You think?

[duxrow]

"Let your speech be .. seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man". Colossians 4:6

Now that we've ruled out the 'putting into' the Body of Christ, the Church, could we agree on whether salt water or fresh water is the church-approved kind?

[David M]

"Let your speech be .. seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man". Colossians 4:6

Now that we've ruled out the 'putting into' the Body of Christ, the Church, could we agree on whether salt water or fresh water is the church-approved kind?

Salt is as essential as water and both in excess whether salt water or fresh water can kill you.

Just the other evening it was explained in a TV programme how athletes who be come seriously dehydrated have died as a result of taking in too much non-salted water afterwards. There is a danger in getting dehydrated that there is not enough salt in the blood. This is another example to show that maintaining the correct level of sodium salts in the bloodstream is essential. Hence a pinch of salt is not a bad thing when a low sodium intake is prescribed. Anyone suffering with a heart condition is advised to lower their salt intake; not totally eliminate salt from the diet.

That is why, in hospital, a seriously dehydrated patient will be connected up to a drip containing a saline solution in order to feed the saline solution straight into the bloodstream.


David

[duxrow]

Salt is as essential as water and both in excess whether salt water or fresh water can kill you.

Just the other evening it was explained in a TV programme how athletes who be come seriously dehydrated have died as a result of taking in too much non-salted water afterwards. There is a danger in getting dehydrated that there is not enough salt in the blood. This is another example to show that maintaining the correct level of sodium salts in the bloodstream is essential. Hence a pinch of salt is not a bad thing when a low sodium intake is prescribed. Anyone suffering with a heart condition is advised to lower their salt intake; not totally eliminate salt from the diet.

That is why, in hospital, a seriously dehydrated patient will be connected up to a drip containing a saline solution in order to feed the saline solution straight into the bloodstream. David

Agree, David -- my comment probably snarky, but meant for grins. Don't think we're completely finished though...Baptizo - G907

There are good baptisms and run of the mill baptisms, and some that are sloppy. First, tell 'em by what authority this procedure is based on.

Best to have them hold their nose, then dunk 'em 3 times: 'In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. They'll be smiling--it's a good feeling! Amen?

John1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

THE PRECEPT FROM OT
2Kings5:14 "Then went he [Naaman] down, and *dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.

*dipped=tabal, H2881

[CWH]

Salt of the Earth ?

Salt is for flavor, it's the Lord's spice of Life,
And during a freeze, it helps melt the strife.
Salt makes you thirsty, so watch what you say..
It makes it more buoyant and lifts up your day.

Salt is for curing, to preserve right perspectives..
When used in a cut, it stings forth invectives!
Salt is for healing, or for scouring clean..
And a salty demeanor should never be mean.

Salt softens the water, can be used in a pinch..
And a saline solution makes seeing a cinch.
Salt is a crystal that always rings true,
And changes conduction in a chemical brew.

A sprinkle of salt for the tail of a bird,
or over your shoulder to see fate deferred.
A shaker of Salt, but don't over do it..
A Dead Sea comes forth if you misconstrue it.

A Covenant of Salt, and don't forget pepper,
It's not to be sneezed at: the spiritual leper.
Salted and swaddled, each one in his turn,
With passionate fire his candle to burn.

Oceans of hydrogen, stuff that goes "boom",
Heavens of oxygen for the flaming of doom..
Combustible matter, one spark will ignite,
Just as soon as the Salt's gone, they'll all see the Light!

"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man". Colossians 4:6

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...ess-male-ardor

You don't imagine God wants a whole plateful of salt, do you? NO, that probably wouldn't be appetizing –don’t you discard food that’s too salty?
He'd prefer a colorful dish with lots of variety; seeing He's such a diverse God. You think?

What do you think of the passages? How do you interpret them? Is it talking about the Jews or about Christians?

1.Matthew 5:13
[ Salt and Light ] “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

2.Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire.

3.Mark 9:50
“Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”

God Blessed the Salt.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

What do you think of the passages? How do you interpret them? Is it talking about the Jews or about Christians?

1.Matthew 5:13
[ Salt and Light ] “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

2.Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire.

3.Mark 9:50
“Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”

God Blessed the Salt.

Christians.

And what does it mean for God to "bless" an inanimate substance like sodium chloride?

[luke1978]

Christians.

And what does it mean for God to "bless" an inanimate substance like sodium chloride?

Wow! - What a synchronicity. I have not been on this forum for a few days as we are buying a new home which means I have been very busy with all the wheeling and dealing!

But on topic my pastor preached on this topic this morning and they handed out salt packets to everybody(About 300). They put letters or pictures on the salt packet(Macdonalds packets!) and we had to find somebody else with the same letter or picture to have a conversation. I also learnt the salt from the dead sea used to lose it's saltiness for specific scientific reasons and Jesus was talking to people of that day who would of been familiar with that.

It was just amazing to logon and see this comment at the top about salt!

[CWH]

Christians.

And what does it mean for God to "bless" an inanimate substance like sodium chloride?

Yes, You are perfectly right RAM that Christ refers salt as Christians and not Jews. But you don't get its insight. How can salt lose its saltiness? There are 2 ways: dilute salt with lots of water or separate the bond of sodium chloride through electrolysis into sodium and chlorine atoms. Therefore, if a Christian can become so diluted in his belief or be totally separated from his belief in Christianity that he becomes a non-Christian, what good is he except to be "thrown out and trample underfoot"? And of course, a former Christian can become a fervent Christian again by being undiluted and be bond tightly in his belief in Christianity.

1.Matthew 5:13
[ Salt and Light ] “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

2.Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire. meaning everyone will be judge by the Christian God.

3.Mark 9:50
“Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”means have the Christian love for one another and the love of God among you and be at peace with one another.

God Bless the Salt

means that no human can live without salt in his body and Christ is the King of the salt i.e. Christians.

God Bless the Christians.

[sylvius]

Yes, You are perfectly right RAM that Christ refers salt as Christians and not Jews. But you don't get its insight. How can salt lose its saltiness? There are 2 ways: dilute salt with lots of water or separate the bond of sodium chloride through electrolysis into sodium and chlorine atoms. Therefore, if a Christian can become so diluted in his belief or be totally separated from his belief in Christianity that he becomes a non-Christian, what good is he except to be "thrown out and trample underfoot"? And of course, a former Christian can become a fervent Christian again by being undiluted and be bond tightly in his belief in Christianity.

1.Matthew 5:13
[ Salt and Light ] “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

2.Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire. meaning everyone will be judge by the Christian God.

3.Mark 9:50
“Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”means have the Christian love for one another and the love of God among you and be at peace with one another.

means that no human can live without salt in his body and Christ is the King of the salt i.e. Christians.

God Bless the Christians.

Your translations are not quite correct.
Matthew 5:13:
Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς: ἐὰν δὲ τὸ ἅλας μωρανθῇ, ἐν τίνι ἁλισθήσεται;
You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt becomes foolish, with what shall it be salted?
μωραίνω = make foolish; make tasteless.

Mark 9:50,
Καλὸν τὸ ἅλας: ἐὰν δὲ τὸ ἅλας ἄναλον γένηται, ἐν τίνι αὐτὸ ἀρτύσετε;
Good is the salt, but when the salt becomes saltless, with what it will be seasoned?

ἀρτύω = season; restore flavor.

so I think it is about Hebrew "ta'am" = taste; accent, intonation.

And especially about the cantillation marks in a written text, "ta'amei hamikra" .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantillation

When the text doesn't sing it's meaningless, and ready to be thrown away,

[CWH]

Your translations are not quite correct.
Matthew 5:13:
Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς: ἐὰν δὲ τὸ ἅλας μωρανθῇ, ἐν τίνι ἁλισθήσεται;
You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt becomes foolish, with what shall it be salted?
μωραίνω = make foolish; make tasteless.

Mark 9:50,
Καλὸν τὸ ἅλας: ἐὰν δὲ τὸ ἅλας ἄναλον γένηται, ἐν τίνι αὐτὸ ἀρτύσετε;
Good is the salt, but when the salt becomes saltless, with what it will be seasoned?

ἀρτύω = season; restore flavor.

so I think it is about Hebrew "ta'am" = taste; accent, intonation.

And especially about the cantillation marks in a written text, "ta'amei hamikra" .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantillation

When the text doesn't sing it's meaningless, and ready to be thrown away,

Thanks sylvius for your interpretation which holds some water. My interpretation is based on accepted articles in the internet such as this:

http://deneenwhite.com/2007/01/06/ho...its-saltiness/

How does salt lose its saltiness?
Posted on 6 January, 2007
Last week at prayer, Pastor John posed a question to us: How does salt lose its saltiness? The question leads to more questions. Is the reference literal or is it figurative? Coming from a scientific background, I logically thought this thing through.

The first question that must be addressed is this. What is the chemical composition of the salt? Is it table salt, NaCl? For the sake of this argument, we’ll assume that Jesus is speaking of table salt. When NaCl is combined with water, it is a mixture, not another compound. No discernible chemical reaction occurs. The salt particles enjoy the extra space of not being in crystal form, but the vast majority of the salt molecules don’t mingle with the water–ie share electrons.

The only way for salt to lose its saltiness, from a chemical perspective, is for a chemical reaction to occur. NaCl is a very stable substance. The chemical bond is very tight. You see, sodium and chlorine are happy to become one and share their one electron. Things work out really well for them…they are like the happily married couple that just loves to be married, not matter what hits the fan.

NaCl is used for many purposes. It is used to add flavor to food; it is used to draw out the water in foods; it is used to cure food for longevity; it is used to create traction on icy roads. (Calcium chloride is actually used for this purpose more, but if you don’t have any of that sitting around, you can use table salt to create traction on your front step on a snowy day.) I believe that salt was even used for antiseptic purposes.

So, for salt to lost is pungent saltiness, or change its physical composition, it would have to be diluted in water because it is non-reactive in its crystalline form. Or electricity would have to be introduce to force the sodium chloride into its ionic components thereby changing its chemcial composition.

So, for the Christian, for the salt of the earth, to lose his degree of saltiness, the Gospel would have to diluted in his life. This person is the complacent Christian, the person who does not protect the Truth of the gospel in his life from the rainfall of other ideas and ideologies–Buddhism, Islam, American culture. This person mixes the Truth with a myriad of other ideologies.

Or perhaps this Christian is a skeptic. You know, the hair splitting Christian. They say that they believe in Jesus, but they don’t really want their lives to be changed. “I know that the Bible says that premarital sex is not acceptable, but does that pertain to 2007?” “I know that the Bible says that I should not lie. Does that mean on my taxes too?” Skepticism is an electric shock to the Truth contained in the gospel. Instead of planting faith the size of a mustard seed, it creates doubt that is as wide as the Grand Canyon.

Thereby I assert that the question that the Christian, the Christ follower must ask is not necessarily, “How does salt lose its saltiness?” Rather the question should be, “How then can I maintain my saltiness?”

God Blessed.