God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Thanks for the dogma gentlemen.

Enjoy trying to ride your human sacrifice and scapegoat into heaven.

God will like your moral position. Not.



I do have a scriptural question though.
Scriptures show that Jesus went to hell for three days then resurrected. It also says that Jesus went to heaven that same day.
Which is correct and does it matter?

Regards
DL

That's a great video. I love "Mr. Diety" - it's reveals truth through humor.

But as for your suggestion that "Jesus went to hell for three days." I don't see that anywhere in the Bible. I'm guessing you might be thinking of a verse like this:

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

The word "hades" meant "realm of the dead to the Greeks, but it was used in the LXX to render sheol (grave) which was the word used in the verse that Peter was quoting (Psalm 16:10). So from a Biblical perspective, Christ's body was in the grave (hell, hades, sheol) for three days whereas his spirit/soul went to be with God the Father. There are plenty of problems with that idea (wasn't really three days, questions of the Trinity, etc.) but I don't think there is a contradiction of the form you suggested.

[Greatest I am]

That's a great video. I love "Mr. Diety" - it's reveals truth through humor.

But as for your suggestion that "Jesus went to hell for three days." I don't see that anywhere in the Bible. I'm guessing you might be thinking of a verse like this:

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

The word "hades" meant "realm of the dead to the Greeks, but it was used in the LXX to render sheol (grave) which was the word used in the verse that Peter was quoting (Psalm 16:10). So from a Biblical perspective, Christ's body was in the grave (hell, hades, sheol) for three days whereas his spirit/soul went to be with God the Father. There are plenty of problems with that idea (wasn't really three days, questions of the Trinity, etc.) but I don't think there is a contradiction of the form you suggested.

You may be right. The dogma I have heard was that Jesus went to close the gates of hell for his sheeple and was there till he resurrected and then went to heaven.

I will have to do a bit of digging.

Regards
DL

[Richard Amiel McGough]

You may be right. The dogma I have heard was that Jesus went to close the gates of hell for his sheeple and was there till he resurrected and then went to heaven.

I will have to do a bit of digging.

Regards
DL

Yeah, that's a fairly common misconception. It's really not well-supported in the Bible.

[David M]

Thanks for the dogma gentlemen.

Enjoy trying to ride your human sacrifice and scapegoat into heaven.

God will like your moral position. Not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzuxy...layer_embedded

I do have a scriptural question though.
Scriptures show that Jesus went to hell for three days then resurrected. It also says that Jesus went to heaven that same day.
Which is correct and does it matter?

Regards
DL

Hello DL
Why do you not address any of the questions I ask you?

Jesus went to hell, because "hell" means the grave and Jesus was in the grave three full days and nights. Please show me where in the Bible where Jesus went to Heaven the same day he went to the grave.

In answering all the questions I have given you, you have a lot of "digging" to do. If you do not want to answer any of the questions for me to gain some knowledge of what you believe, then there is no point to carrying on a conversation with you, or perhaps you are unable to support a rational conversation. I trust this is not the case.

All the best,

David

[Greatest I am]

Hello DL
Why do you not address any of the questions I ask you?

Jesus went to hell, because "hell" means the grave and Jesus was in the grave three full days and nights. Please show me where in the Bible where Jesus went to Heaven the same day he went to the grave.

In answering all the questions I have given you, you have a lot of "digging" to do. If you do not want to answer any of the questions for me to gain some knowledge of what you believe, then there is no point to carrying on a conversation with you, or perhaps you are unable to support a rational conversation. I trust this is not the case.

All the best,

David

How do you see Jesus telling Barabbas that they would both be in heaven that same day?

I am not sure what other questions you are speaking of but I likely ignored them if they were based on your imaginary dogma. If you want a rational conversation, perhaps you should leave your imaginary constructs out of it. Yours is not a rational position.

Regards
DL

[David M]

How do you see Jesus telling Barabbas that they would both be in heaven that same day?

I am not sure what other questions you are speaking of but I likely ignored them if they were based on your imaginary dogma. If you want a rational conversation, perhaps you should leave your imaginary constructs out of it. Yours is not a rational position.

Regards
DL

Hello DL

I could answer your question, but I will leave you to work it out taking into account all the other verses which say that Jesus could not have been in Heaven on the same day he spoke those words.

Since you do not want to answer my questions and you claim not to recognize that I have asked you a question, and as you also think I am giving you imaginary constructs, you have proved my point and having a rational conversation with you based on what the Bible states is impossible, so I am bowing out of this thread and I shall not be responding any more of your posts.

David

[weeder]

How do you see Jesus telling Barabbas that they would both be in heaven that same day?

Regards
DL

Once i find the scripture ill let you know.

[Greatest I am]

Hello DL

I could answer your question, but I will leave you to work it out taking into account all the other verses which say that Jesus could not have been in Heaven on the same day he spoke those words.

Since you do not want to answer my questions and you claim not to recognize that I have asked you a question, and as you also think I am giving you imaginary constructs, you have proved my point and having a rational conversation with you based on what the Bible states is impossible, so I am bowing out of this thread and I shall not be responding any more of your posts.

David

Nice way of saying you do not know your own theology and cannot come up with the apologetics to show your point.
Continue to lie to yourself.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

Once i find the scripture ill let you know.

Luke 23
43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
My bad though . It is not Barabbas but the other criminal with Jesus.

Regards
DL