God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.

[Greatest I am]

God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.
This love of sinners is the hinge pin on which his benevolent qualities depend and without evil and sin, God could never expressed his benevolence and we would never know of God’s mercy, forgiveness, compassion and all his other positive attributes. Love, like faith, can only be expressed by actions and for God to show his love of sinners and his other positive attributes, evil, sin and sinners must exist to receive this love.

Before the earth was formed, God planned to have Jesus sacrificed, murdered in fact, for those of us who are sinners. That is all of us. Jesus’ sacrifice was to be God’s example of the greatest evil and sin from the point of view of all who are wise. It shows our greatest loss and evil if we were to do as God did. Those of us who are evil without knowing good will try to profit from this greatest evil. We are to venerate life. Not take it or try to profit from its death. Though shalt not kill or try to profit from it.

As above so below.

The fact that God created evil and sin is a given. He created all that is to those who believe he exists. He decides what is evil or not and therefore sets this as our standard. It is a human standard. God is man.

Have you forgotten that you are to be a God by emulating your heavenly father?
Sin by the thought of having your child killed or profiting from someone else’s doing so and repent as God did.

All fathers or parent will know that the greatest evil he can experience is to have his children die before he does. Having them killed is the greatest sin that any entity can do. Including God himself. As the Alpha, God knew he had to do this to also be the Omega. That is a part of the full standard of good and evil as declared by God as the law maker.

This shows that he loves sinners more than those of us who are supposedly good. Think of the prodigal son myth here. Those who know their evil ways will know this. Those who do not will think they are good and will accept this greatest evil for their salvation. A completely immoral act by all moral standards as set by God and man.

http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/

God planned to have Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden of Eden and placed his beloved Satan near the tree of knowledge to insure that mankind ate of it. To make sure of this, God gave Satan the power to deceive all of us including Adam and Eve. As history shows, his plan was a great success. Dominion over the earth was Satan’s reward and gift from God for aiding in this great success. Evil is our lord and God as shown by God’s actions. Satan is not real of course but as the personification of evil, rules us. That is scripture.

The great value of sinners is that we set the standards for the good. Without us, we would all be living in what we would call hell instead of the paradise that we have created thanks to sin and the evils we do. This maintains the perfection of all that is. This explains why God loves the sinner and hates the sin and this is also why we are rewarded with the eternal paradise of hell. Remember that fire, in the beginning, was prized as the greatest purifying force known to us. It still is. Evolution and creation began in the fires of the big bang.

Martin Luther, A Gnostic Christian and founder of the Protestant movement may, have been aware of this. He said, “Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.” In this though we must remember what Jesus said. That to think of sin is to do it and hopefully learn morals from the experience. We are to sin that way and not do the actual act. There should not be a need to do so.

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".
If you will only give a dogmatic kneejerk denial of this theory then please ignore this post.

Please test the logic of what I have written even as it goes against you dogma and traditional thinking. God is good but just not the God you think he is. The root of all religions is the Great Arcanum and this theory fit’s it perfectly in my opinion.

http://www.sacred-sex.org/scriptures...-covenant.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKVE...eature=related

Offsprings and their great value are the driving force of all religions. Those who would profit from the murder or sacrifice of the offspring, archetypal Jesus, are knowing evil without knowing good and are thus evil in their hearts.

Christians. Most of you are basically good. Please stop doing evil and sinning in your thoughts of profiting from God’s sacrifice and murder of his innocent son. You are missing the moral of the myth and calling evil good. This thinking will send you to hell.

Regards
DL

[CWH]

[QUOTE]

God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.
This love of sinners is the hinge pin on which his benevolent qualities depend and without evil and sin, God could never expressed his benevolence and we would never know of God’s mercy, forgiveness, compassion and all his other positive attributes. Love, like faith, can only be expressed by actions and for God to show his love of sinners and his other positive attributes, evil, sin and sinners must exist to receive this love.

God does not love evil but love evil ones to sincerely repents. Will a parent try to forgive their own children when they have committed a crime and will love them even more if they have sincerely regret their wrong doing and eager to turn over a new leaf?

Before the earth was formed, God planned to have Jesus sacrificed, murdered in fact, for those of us who are sinners. That is all of us. Jesus’ sacrifice was to be God’s example of the greatest evil and sin from the point of view of all who are wise. It shows our greatest loss and evil if we were to do as God did. Those of us who are evil without knowing good will try to profit from this greatest evil. We are to venerate life. Not take it or try to profit from its death. Though shalt not kill or try to profit from it.

There is no murder if one is killed and raised after that. Jesus understood that He will be sacrificed and then be raised in 3 days so as to prove the point that there will be eternal life if one believe in Him, loving God with all their heart, soul and might and love thy neighbor as yourself.

As above so below.

The fact that God created evil and sin is a given. He created all that is to those who believe he exists. He decides what is evil or not and therefore sets this as our standard. It is a human standard. God is man.

The creation of sin is a test to see if man is righteous towards God. If one is a God fearing person, loving God with all his heart soul and might and love his neighbor as himself, he will do what is righteous and resists temptations.

Have you forgotten that you are to be a God by emulating your heavenly father?
Sin by the thought of having your child killed or profiting from someone else’s doing so and repent as God did.

Killing someone and raising him up is no murder.

All fathers or parent will know that the greatest evil he can experience is to have his children die before he does. Having them killed is the greatest sin that any entity can do. Including God himself. As the Alpha, God knew he had to do this to also be the Omega. That is a part of the full standard of good and evil as declared by God as the law maker.

Wouldn't it be an honor in human terms if one is sacrificed to save millions and millions of people? Were soldiers killed in WW2 fighting against the evil Nazi and Japanese regimes in vain?

This shows that he loves sinners more than those of us who are supposedly good. Think of the prodigal son myth here. Those who know their evil ways will know this. Those who do not will think they are good and will accept this greatest evil for their salvation. A completely immoral act by all moral standards as set by God and man.

http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/

Yes, Jesus is here more for the sinners as only those who are sick requires a physician. Would you try to save one who is severely wounded first than to save first those with minor injuries?

God planned to have Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden of Eden and placed his beloved Satan near the tree of knowledge to insure that mankind ate of it. To make sure of this, God gave Satan the power to deceive all of us including Adam and Eve. As history shows, his plan was a great success. Dominion over the earth was Satan’s reward and gift from God for aiding in this great success. Evil is our lord and God as shown by God’s actions. Satan is not real of course but as the personification of evil, rules us. That is scripture.

God tested Eve and Adam and found that they were disobedience to His good advice and they wanted to be wise like God knowing good and evil. And in order grant their wishes and make them experience knowledge of good and evil so that they can be like God, they were expelled form the garden to toil and labor under the sun and suffer death. This is also a way for them to repent from their disobedience. To be like God means to gain the experience of good and evil so that when they become like God they could readily use this experience to deal with their created evil and good creatures.

The great value of sinners is that we set the standards for the good. Without us, we would all be living in what we would call hell instead of the paradise that we have created thanks to sin and the evils we do. This maintains the perfection of all that is. This explains why God loves the sinner and hates the sin and this is also why we are rewarded with the eternal paradise of hell. Remember that fire, in the beginning, was prized as the greatest purifying force known to us. It still is.

Without sinners, would we be experiencing what is sin and evil? And without experiencing sin and evil, will we be like God wise, just and knowing good and evil?

Evolution and creation began in the fires of the big bang.

There is no Evolution and there is no Big Bang; they are just human speculations to try and understand the world they are living.

Martin Luther, A Gnostic Christian and founder of the Protestant movement may, have been aware of this. He said, “Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.” In this though we must remember what Jesus said. That to think of sin is to do it and hopefully learn morals from the experience. We are to sin that way and not do the actual act. There should not be a need to do so.

Correct, learning from the sin and evil that people made and the punishments that comes with their sinful and evil acts serve as learning points and deterrence not to follow their path that will only lead to death. It's a path to learn to fear God and gain wisdom and righteousness that will lead to eternal life.

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".
If you will only give a dogmatic kneejerk denial of this theory then please ignore this post.

Correct, test all things and do not trust everything that humans said. Just like God is testing all of us, we should be testing every human beings. One will then know whether this person is good or bad by the fruits they produced.

Please test the logic of what I have written even as it goes against you dogma and traditional thinking. God is good but just not the God you think he is. The root of all religions is the Great Arcanum and this theory fit’s it perfectly in my opinion.

God is good and is our hope. Love God with all your heart soul and might and Love your neighbor as yourself is a sure path to the gates of heaven. God pervades everything that we see and do.

Offsprings and their great value are the driving force of all religions. Those who would profit from the murder or sacrifice of the offspring, archetypal Jesus, are knowing evil without knowing good and are thus evil in their hearts.

Killing someone and raising them up is no murder...what more if the act of killing and resurrection saves millions and millions of people with the convincing proof that there is eternal life if one Loves God with all his heart, soul and might and love your neighbor as yourself.

Christians. Most of you are basically good. Please stop doing evil and sinning in your thoughts of profiting from God’s sacrifice and murder of his innocent son. You are missing the moral of the myth and calling evil good. This thinking will send you to hell.

Killing of evil people with the effect of saving millions and millions of good innocent people is considered as good. Would you have killed Hitler and his gang if given the chance so as to save millions and millions of people from death and sufferings? Do people consider killing of Hitler as immoral? As for the judgement leave it to God; do not judge or YOU may be judged.


May God not judged us.

[Greatest I am]

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Let me touch on two points before returning to your remarks above.
It may save us many words.

In your last you tell me not to judge God.

Do you think that reciprocity is fair play?
You have judged God to be good so if you can judge, why would you deny me the same function?

My second point is a question.
Do you think it a good policy to punish the innocent instead of the guilty?

Regards
DL

[CWH]

In your last you tell me not to judge God.

I am telling you not to judge people. Who are we to judge God? Who are we to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?

Do you think that reciprocity is fair play?
You have judged God to be good so if you can judge, why would you deny me the same function?

If God is no good, would you be alive today to enjoy the fruits of His creations? He gave everything free....free air, free water, free food, free energy from the sun, wind etc, free land etc. and yet we enjoy them without giving a word of thanks in return, how ungrateful talking about reciprocity! Who are we to judge God our Creator? He is the potter, we are the clay. Imagine your parents giving you all these things for free but received no thanks from his children except judgement. How will the parents feel?

My second point is a question.
Do you think it a good policy to punish the innocent instead of the guilty?

Of course it is Not good to punish the innocent instead of the guilty. How do you know if those people that God punished were innocent? In the court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In wars always expect casualties, innocent and evil. Same with wars against good and evil which we are dealing everyday. Those who were innocent will be rewarded on judgement day.

God Bless. Do Good and Not evil.

[Greatest I am]

I am telling you not to judge people.

I see. So if I see someone raping someone, I should not judge that to be evil and just walk on.
Is that what you would do or would you judge that evil and act against it?

Who are we to judge God?

You answer a question with a question and try to deflect.
You have judged God as good.
Who are you to judge God?
If you can judge him, what is wrong with others doing the same thing?

Who are we to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?

Who said we should or could?
Not me.
I hace no control over heaven or hell.

If God is no good, would you be alive today to enjoy the fruits of His creations? He gave everything free....free air, free water, free food, free energy from the sun, wind etc, free land etc. and yet we enjoy them without giving a word of thanks in return, how ungrateful talking about reciprocity! Who are we to judge God our Creator? He is the potter, we are the clay. Imagine your parents giving you all these things for free but received no thanks from his children except judgement. How will the parents feel?

No point in useless speculation till we get my initial questions out of the way.

Of course it is Not good to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.

Thanks for the straight and clear answer.

This would mean that it would be unjust for God to have his innocent son killed for us guilty sinners. Right?

Even if Jesus was a willing suicide victim, he would not give us an example that killing him, an innocemnt victim, should be used to profit the guilty. Right?

How do you know if those people that God punished were innocent? In the court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In wars always expect casualties, innocent and evil. Same with wars against good and evil which we are dealing everyday. Those who were innocent will be rewarded on judgement day.

God Bless. Do Good and Not evil.

You keep focussing on others when it is God and his premeditated murder of his son that is the issue.
Let's see if we can find God's standard first, which should be our standard. Right?

Regards
DL

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I am telling you not to judge people.

I see. So if I see someone raping someone, I should not judge that to be evil and just walk on.
Is that what you would do or would you judge that evil and act against it?

This is one of the most common of all Christian inconsistencies. If Christians are known for anything, it is that they judge others. "You are a sinner!" "Homosexuals caused the World Trade Center attacks" (Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson). "Evolutionists are liars!" Etc., etc., etc. .... ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Who are we to judge God?

You answer a question with a question and try to deflect.
You have judged God as good.
Who are you to judge God?
If you can judge him, what is wrong with others doing the same thing?

BINGO!

Another Christian inconsistency bites the dust. Christians constantly "judge God" when they judge that he is "good." They just don't like it when other people do the same thing but come to different conclusions.

This is a meme I've been spreading everywhere I go because this fallacy flows from nearly every Christian mouth. It is sad that such an obvious error is so very common.

And CWH's comment contains another fundamental fallacy that is oft repeated. Judgment of what the Bible says about God is not the same thing as "judging God." It is judging what a book says about God. There is a world of difference.

[Rose]

BINGO!

Another Christian inconsistency bites the dust. Christians constantly "judge God" when they judge that he is "good." They just don't like it when other people do the same thing but come to different conclusions.

This is a meme I've been spreading everywhere I go because this fallacy flows from nearly every Christian mouth. It is sad that such an obvious error is so very common.

And CWH's comment contains another fundamental fallacy that is oft repeated. Judgment of what the Bible says about God is not the same thing as "judging God." It is judging what a book says about God. There is a world of difference.

This is so true! Christians are always judging God, but they don't realize what they are doing. Judging isn't just confined to that which is bad, remember in the Bible God judged Noah to be a righteous man. If judging the bad things the Bible says about God is wrong, then it is equally wrong to judge the good things it says.

[Greatest I am]

Two thanks for this.

Regards
DL

[CWH]

You keep focussing on others when it is God and his premeditated murder of his son that is the issue.
Let's see if we can find God's standard first, which should be our standard. Right?

Regards
DL

You keep talking about murder when there is none. What Premeditated murder by God when it is done with the full consent and knowledge of the son that He will be raised up in 3 days? It is like putting your son to sleep for 3 days and then waking him up with his full consent and knowledge to prove that death can be conquered and there is eternal life as promised. Isn't it good news that we all can conquer death and live forever? Would you want to live forever? If yes, take up the cross and follow Him, believe in Him and his Words.....love God with all your heart, soul and might and love your neighbor as yourself. Why strive for things that last you a lifetime when you can strive for things that last you an eternity?

Understand what Jesus said, "Do not keep your treasures on earth where moth and rust can destroy; keep your teasures in heaven where moth and rust do not destroy".

May God bless us.

[CWH]

This is one of the most common of all Christian inconsistencies. If Christians are known for anything, it is that they judge others. "You are a sinner!" "Homosexuals caused the World Trade Center attacks" (Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson). "Evolutionists are liars!" Etc., etc., etc. .... ad infinitum, ad nauseum.


BINGO!

Another Christian inconsistency bites the dust. Christians constantly "judge God" when they judge that he is "good." They just don't like it when other people do the same thing but come to different conclusions.

This is a meme I've been spreading everywhere I go because this fallacy flows from nearly every Christian mouth. It is sad that such an obvious error is so very common.

And CWH's comment contains another fundamental fallacy that is oft repeated. Judgment of what the Bible says about God is not the same thing as "judging God." It is judging what a book says about God. There is a world of difference.

There is nothing wrong judging what is right and what is wrong or if someone is bad or good. It certainly doesn't mean do whatever you want without fear and hindrance. Judgement which Jesus said is about judging who goes to heaven and who goes to hell; i.e. do not condemn. Who are we to judge unless we are the judge who will determine what punishment or life and death sentence to give to a criminal.

Luke 6:37
[ Judging Others ] “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


God Blessed.