There are no gods

[sylvius]

. Even the first verse is false since the earth was formed 9 billion years after the "heavens" were created at the big bang.

Everything exists in one single moment of time = the big bang.

You can even hear its roaring sound, the murmuring of the river Gichon, the second river that flows out of paradise.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi..._THE_BIG_BANG/

Rashi:
Gichon: [It is named thus because] it flowed and roared, and its roaring was very great, like (Exod. 21: 28):“If an [ox] gore (יִגַח),” for he gores and goes along and roars.


"bara" we use to translate with "to create", after Latin "creare".
But that's not a right translation.

I would translate:

Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God bigbanged the heaven and the earth"

Genesis "1:27, "And God bigbanged Adam in his image, in the image of God He bigbanged him, male and female He bigbanged them".

Genesis 2:4, "These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, with the letter "hey" they were bigbanged".

Letter "hey" = window that opens sight into the extragalactial sphere (Andromeda Nebula).

[sylvius]

I look at a rock by the side of the road and it don't look designed. Is there any question about the properties of the rock that require a god for an explanation? I know of none.

A rock is a most amazing thing.
Did you never watch one?
Maybe a rock is the most amazing thing.
God is even called "the Rock", "hatzur".
Deuteronomy 32:4,
The Rock, His work is perfect; for all His ways are justice; a God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and right is He

Out from the rock flowed water,
Exodus 17:6,
Behold, I shall stand there before you on the rock in Horeb, and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it, and the people will drink. Moses did so before the eyes of the elders of Israel.
Rock being eternal source of water= time.

And also:
http://www.ou.org/index.php/shabbat_...article/59148/

The word tzur bears an etymological resemblance to formation or creation. In describing man's formation the Torah uses the word vayitzer: [Bereishis, 1:7]

("vayitzer' written with two letters "yud", hinting at two formations...)

So you might even conclude that the "ed" of Genesis 2:6 is the rock.

Rashi on Genesis 2:4,

Another explanation of the word בְּהִבָּרְאָם He created them with the letter “hey,” as it is written (Isa. 26:4):“for in Yah (יָה) , the Lord, is the Rock of eternity.”

Numerical value of the letter "hey" being 5, like the gematria of "ed".


NT Peter is called that way after "petra"= rock.

"Build your house on rock"

[duxrow]

Intriguing 'rock' in old testament:

moses struck the rock, and water came out
gideon laid his sacrifice on the rock, and fire came out
honey from the rock in Ps81:16
oil from the rock in Job 29:6

Jesus made many IAM statements, but not IAm the Rock..

1Cor10:4 says "that Rock was Christ"!

[sylvius]

1Cor10:4 says "that Rock was Christ"

Very intersting, since Jewish tradition knows the rock as to be Miriam's well.

Numbers 20:1-2,
The entire congregation of the children of Israel arrived at the desert of Zin in the first month, and the people settled in Kadesh. Miriam died there and was buried there. The congregation had no water; so they assembled against Moses and Aaron.

Rashi:

had no water: From here [we learn that] all forty years they had the well in Miriam’s merit. — [Ta’anith 9a]

Which might mean that indeed Mary, Jesus' mother, was called so after Miriam because of the well (and not because Mary was the name of Jesus' historical mother),

[duxrow]

House on The Rock

Mt7:25 and Lk6:48 both tell of the House built on a firm foundation: on the Rock.

Peter (petra) for small rock OK, but The Rock is one of the many metaphors of Jesus, with all those OT precepts.

[sylvius]

House on The Rock

Mt7:25 and Lk6:48 both tell of the House built on a firm foundation: on the Rock.

The one who builds his house on the rock is opposed to the one who builds his house on the sand.

The first is called φρόνιμος, intelligent , wise, astute, shrewd, like also the snake is called φρόνιμος,
Matthew 10:18, Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.

The second is called μωρός, foolish.
After Matthew 5:22 we knew already; " whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the Gehenna of fire."

Sand = Hebrew "chol".

"chol" can also mean profane as opposed to "kodesh" holy.

Rashi on Genesis 2:2,

And God completed on the seventh day: Rabbi Simon said: [A human being of] flesh and blood, who cannot [exactly] know his times and his moments, must add from the profane to the holy [i.e., he must add some time to the Sabbath.] The Holy One, blessed be He, Who knows His times and His moments [exactly], entered it [the Sabbath] within a hairbreadth, and it therefore appeared as if He completed it [His work] on that day.

"must add from the profane to the holy" = צריך להוסיף מחול על הקודש , "tsarich l'hosif meichol al hakodesh".

Maybe the clue of building your house on the rock is just this.

The rock being the eternal source of time, like the "ed" (1-4) of Genesis 2:6.

Add "ed" to "yom shishi" , making it "yom hashishi".

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Even the first verse is false since the earth was formed 9 billion years after the "heavens" were created at the big bang.

Everything exists in one single moment of time = the big bang.

Your words don't convey any meaning to me.

The big bang is, by definition, a past event. That means that it happened in the past. The past is a word that speaks of things not currently happening. This implies there is more than a single moment of time.

But if you want to get philosophical, I will agree that eternity is always now. There is still time, but the past and the future are always relative to now.

Of course none of this has anything to do with the fact that the Bible incorrectly states that the "earth" was created "in the beginning." It was formed 9 billion years after the beginning.

You can even hear its roaring sound, the murmuring of the river Gichon, the second river that flows out of paradise.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi..._THE_BIG_BANG/

Rashi:
Gichon: [It is named thus because] it flowed and roared, and its roaring was very great, like (Exod. 21: 28):“If an [ox] gore (יִגַח),” for he gores and goes along and roars.


"bara" we use to translate with "to create", after Latin "creare".
But that's not a right translation.

I would translate:

Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God bigbanged the heaven and the earth"

Genesis "1:27, "And God bigbanged Adam in his image, in the image of God He bigbanged him, male and female He bigbanged them".

Genesis 2:4, "These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, with the letter "hey" they were bigbanged".

Letter "hey" = window that opens sight into the extragalactial sphere (Andromeda Nebula).

Your use of the word "bigbanged" makes no sense to me at all. It is entirely contrary to the scientific meaning of that term.

How is a person supposed to understand words that have no meaning?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

House on The Rock

Mt7:25 and Lk6:48 both tell of the House built on a firm foundation: on the Rock.

Peter (petra) for small rock OK, but The Rock is one of the many metaphors of Jesus, with all those OT precepts.

Yes, and "Rock" is a fine metaphor for Jesus. The OT uses it as a metaphor for God. Some folks won't like that implication.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Which might mean that indeed Mary, Jesus' mother, was called so after Miriam because of the well (and not because Mary was the name of Jesus' historical mother),

Why wouldn't it be for both reasons?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

The one who builds his house on the rock is opposed to the one who builds his house on the sand.

The first is called φρόνιμος, intelligent , wise, astute, shrewd, like also the snake is called φρόνιμος,
Matthew 10:18, Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.

The second is called μωρός, foolish.
After Matthew 5:22 we knew already; " whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the Gehenna of fire."

Yes, but then Paul reverses those two ideas - the "fools" are saved and the "wise" are damned:

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

The Bible has many words that can be arranged any way anyone wants. Curious isn't it? An ever shifting ocean of words that folks take so very seriously ...

Sand = Hebrew "chol".

"chol" can also mean profane as opposed to "kodesh" holy.

Rashi on Genesis 2:2,

And God completed on the seventh day: Rabbi Simon said: [A human being of] flesh and blood, who cannot [exactly] know his times and his moments, must add from the profane to the holy [i.e., he must add some time to the Sabbath.] The Holy One, blessed be He, Who knows His times and His moments [exactly], entered it [the Sabbath] within a hairbreadth, and it therefore appeared as if He completed it [His work] on that day.

"must add from the profane to the holy" = צריך להוסיף מחול על הקודש , "tsarich l'hosif meichol al hakodesh".

Maybe the clue of building your house on the rock is just this.

The rock being the eternal source of time, like the "ed" (1-4) of Genesis 2:6.

Add "ed" to "yom shishi" , making it "yom hashishi".

What does it mean to "add from the profane to the holy"?