Conversations with sylvius: Rashi, 666 in Genesis 1:31, etc.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

You look like a wood gatherer ...

Psalms 84:11,
כִּי שֶׁמֶשׁ וּמָגֵן יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים

Wood gatherer? What's that supposed to mean?

Psalm 84:11 says shemesh v'magen yahweh elohim. The phrase shemesh yahweh (the lord is a sun) is perfectly good Hebrew. And it was used by the rabbis so are you saying that the rabbis are "wood gatherers"?

And I cannot find in the Tenach an instance of "aron hakadosh" ("aron hakodesh") It 's mostly "aron" or "aron hab'rit" or "aron b'rit-hashem"

But I don't have computer-programm to find it ...

The phrase arun haqadosh is found in 2 Chronicles 35:3.

And there are plenty of Bible databases online. You could use mine (it gives the gematria too):

http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database...cnum=35&vnum=3

And why shouldn't "meah sh'arim" be a good thing?

I think it is very good.

I wasn't talking about meah sh'arim. I was responding to your comment "Ain't Satan the one characterized by the same number?" So are you saying that Satan is a good thing?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Of course he went into the temple riding on the ass.

I can't tell if you are joking or serious. You might want to think about what that implies about your comments.

(On Carm.org you are not allowed to write "ass"...)

Carm is a very tight-assed site that can't deal with any opinions but their own. They can't deal with reality ... or even the words used in the King James Bible!

Mark has this more clear:

Mark 11:11,
Καὶ εἰσῆλθεν εἰς Ἱεροσόλυμα εἰς τὸ ἱερόν -- "he went into Jerusalem into the temple" - one movement.

It teaches you that you must not take these stories as meant to be journalistic accounts of historical events.

Where is the implication of "one movement"? And what does that even mean?

Your comments just wander all over the landscape.

[sylvius]

Wood gatherer? What's that supposed to mean?

That you seemingly lack the "nous" that after Revelation 13:18 is required to calculate the number of the beast.

The phrase shemesh yahweh (the lord is a sun) is perfectly good Hebrew.

You just plucked that out of the larger phrase because it adds up to 666.

And it was used by the rabbis

Never heard of. What rabbis?

The phrase arun haqadosh is found in 2 Chronicles 35:3.

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It reads "aron hakodesh" , תְּנוּ אֶת-אֲרוֹן-הַקֹּדֶשׁ בַּבַּיִת

And there are plenty of Bible databases online. You could use mine (it gives the gematria too):

http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database...cnum=35&vnum=3

ok thanks. Is there a search-function?

I wasn't talking about meah sh'arim. I was responding to your comment "Ain't Satan the one characterized by the same number?" So are you saying that Satan is a good thing?

I am not sure about that.
Ain't Satan the enemy?
Without Satan no Gospel of enemy-love.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

That you seemingly lack the "nous" that after Revelation 13:18 is required to calculate the number of the beast.

Oh ... right, the "nous" that leads each individual to make up their own baseless fantasy about what it means?

I'm glad I don't have that "noose" around the neck of my mind.

You just plucked that out of the larger phrase because it adds up to 666.

Ha! What a joke. You are the one who has "plucked out" the letter hey from the Scripture so you can get yom shishei = 666.

How is it possible you cannot see your inconsistency?

Never heard of. What rabbis?

I'll see if I can find it. It was in a kabbalistic book I read years ago.

It reads "aron hakodesh" , תְּנוּ אֶת-אֲרוֹן-הַקֹּדֶשׁ בַּבַּיִת

Exactly correct. 666 = אֲרוֹן-הַקֹּדֶשׁ

ok thanks. Is there a search-function?

Yep. You can search by gematria, verse number, stong's numbers, and words.

I wasn't talking about meah sh'arim. I was responding to your comment "Ain't Satan the one characterized by the same number?" So are you saying that Satan is a good thing?

I am not sure about that.
Ain't Satan the enemy?
Without Satan no Gospel of enemy-love.

So why did you make that comment if you don't know what you meant?

[sylvius]

I can't tell if you are joking or serious.

Serious.
Without ass he couldn't even enter the temple, the holy.
As pascal lamb he had to be perfect, like Abraham after Genesis 17:1,
And Abram was ninety-nine years old, and God appeared to Abram, and He said to him, "I am the Almighty God; walk before Me and be perfect
Rashi:

“and be perfect” -Now you are missing [control over] five organs: two eyes, two ears, and the male organ. I will add a letter to your name, and the numerical value of your letters [of your name] will be 248, corresponding to the number of your organs (Tan. Lech Lecha 16, Ned. 32b).

248 is also gematria of "chomer" -- donkey-burden, but also clay, the material God formed Adam from (dust of the ground + water from the "mist" or "fountain", the "ed", the "1-4 principle of the universe" of Genesis 2:6)

You might want to think about what that implies about your comments.

I am afraid you won't follow.

Where is the implication of "one movement"?

Mark didn't even use a copulative "kai"
Mark is also the one who uses very often "euthus" = immediate = no time involved.
Stating already in v.3: εὐθείας ποιεῖτε τὰς τρίβους αὐτοῦ = make straight, direct, his pathways.

And what does that even mean?

He being the perfect pascal lamb.
Exodus 12:5,
You shall have a perfect male lamb in its [first] year; you may take it either from the sheep or from the goats

Your comments just wander all over the landscape.

Me too, I was out in the swamps tonight.

[sylvius]

So why did you make that comment if you don't know what you meant?

To show that the parable of the sower is about the number 666 in Genesis 1:31.
Satan does want to prevent you from entering the sabbat = entering the kingdom of God.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Serious.
Without ass he couldn't even enter the temple, the holy.
As pascal lamb he had to be perfect, like Abraham after Genesis 17:1,
And Abram was ninety-nine years old, and God appeared to Abram, and He said to him, "I am the Almighty God; walk before Me and be perfect
Rashi:

“and be perfect” -Now you are missing [control over] five organs: two eyes, two ears, and the male organ. I will add a letter to your name, and the numerical value of your letters [of your name] will be 248, corresponding to the number of your organs (Tan. Lech Lecha 16, Ned. 32b).

248 is also gematria of "chomer" -- donkey-burden, but also clay, the material God formed Adam from (dust of the ground + water from the "mist" or "fountain", the "ed", the "1-4 principle of the universe" of Genesis 2:6)

Your comments are confused because you are using the word "ass" in two entirely different senses. First, you are talking about the literal donkey he rode, then you are talking about the donkey as a symbol of his own physical body. That's why your comments make no sense. He did not "mount his physical body" when he got on the donkey.

And your gematria is just "wood gathering" because the word "ed" = 1 + 4 is not found in the Bible. The actual word written is v'ed. So you fall by your own sword.

You might want to think about what that implies about your comments.

I am afraid you won't follow.

I know. That's the problem. I've explained it a dozen times but you still don't understand.

Where is the implication of "one movement"?

Mark didn't even use a copulative "kai"
Mark is also the one who uses very often "euthus" = immediate = no time involved.
Stating already in v.3: εὐθείας ποιεῖτε τὰς τρίβους αὐτοῦ = make straight, direct, his pathways.

I know Mark uses the euthus a lot. That is one of the more impressive correlations with the Wheel and the 19th Spoke corresponding to the letter Quf and the Quph KeyWord qal = swift. I talk about this in my article Spoke 19: Mark - The Gospel of Action.

But your assertion that "no time was involved" is false. The work euthus means quick, not instant with no time at all. Your interpretations make no sense.

Where is the implication of "one movement"? And what does that even mean?

He being the perfect pascal lamb.
Exodus 12:5,
You shall have a perfect male lamb in its [first] year; you may take it either from the sheep or from the goats

He being the perfect pascal lamb has absolutely nothing to do with "one movement." Your comments are incoherent and meaningless.

Your comments just wander all over the landscape.

Me too, I was out in the swamps tonight.

You don't have much interest in being understood, do you?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

To show that the parable of the sower is about the number 666 in Genesis 1:31.
Satan does want to prevent you from entering the sabbat = entering the kingdom of God.

First, the number 666 is not in Genesis 1:31. You just plucked out the hey to get the result you wanted. That makes you a "wood gatherer" by your own definition. And second, you have not shown that the parable of the sower would have anything to do with Genesis 1:31 even if the number 666 were in that verse.

[sylvius]

First, the number 666 is not in Genesis 1:31. You just plucked out the hey to get the result you wanted. That makes you a "wood gatherer" by your own definition. And second, you have not shown that the parable of the sower would have anything to do with Genesis 1:31 even if the number 666 were in that verse.

The first story of creation has "yom echad", day one, cardinal, and next second day, third day, fourth day, fifth day, the sixth day, the seventh day, all ordinal.

"yom echad" to be seen as all encompassing.

There is just one day, day of light.

Broken since Adam took away the "hey" from "hashishi", hinted at in Genesis 2:4 in the word "b'hibaram", which can be read as "with the letter 'hey' they were created. "B'hibaram" is the 474th word from the beginning, 474 being gematria of "da'at", knowledge,

With "hey" added to "shishi" there is new oneness, a oneness that always existed, only obscured, hidden.

At this hints Mark 4:21-23, right after the parable of the sower:

Καὶ ἔλεγεν αὐτοῖς, Μήτι ἔρχεται ὁ λύχνος ἵνα ὑπὸ τὸν μόδιον τεθῇ ἢ ὑπὸ τὴν κλίνην; οὐχ ἵνα ἐπὶ τὴν λυχνίαν τεθῇ; οὐ γάρ ἐστιν κρυπτὸν ἐὰν μὴ ἵνα φανερωθῇ, οὐδὲ ἐγένετο ἀπόκρυφον ἀλλ' ἵνα ἔλθῃ εἰς φανερόν. εἴ τις ἔχει ὦτα ἀκούειν ἀκουέτω .

μόδιος = grainmeausure, like to measure a chomer = 100 omer.

[sylvius]

But your assertion that "no time was involved" is false. The work euthus means quick, not instant with no time at all.

εὐθύς

as adverbium:

immediately, at once.