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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by David M View Post

    It was important that the Son of God was born as a man, so God made Mary, who was a virgin, to conceive and have a son. We must remember that Jesus was a man and grew up and developed in the same way as any other man do, and not some supernatural transformation taking place over 30 years.

    Jesus proved a sinless life could be achieved and vindicated God to those who say it is impossible for man to be perfect. God knew what He was doing. Jesus had to overcome man's problem that takes place in his mind causing man to disobey God's instruction. So Jesus proved that by not doing his own will and only doing the will of God, it was possible to live a sinless life. As you say, Jesus could not be kept in the grave because he did not deserve death; only "the soul that sinneth it shall die". Jesus had to be resurrected for God to keep to His promise. What Jesus did was to overcome the nature of man to rebel, which is personified as the devil.


    All the best,

    David
    Hi David,

    If Jesus was no more than just a man, why did he need to be born of a virgin without an earthly father? Doesn't that give him an advantage of living a sinless life that no other human had?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeder View Post
    If God was so angry with A+ E then why did he clothe them before removing them from the tree of life?
    I don't know.

    Do J W not dress the children who they will deny a blood transfusion and allow their children to die needlessly?

    God may have had the same twisted thinking.

    Would you dress your children before causing their death?

    Why did God plan to rectify the situation if the condemnation was total?
    Because the situation was to be exactly what he planned in his great plan.
    It continues. To believers that is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoP...layer_embedded

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    DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    Because the situation was to be exactly what he planned in his great plan.
    It continues. To believers that is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoP...layer_embedded

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    DL
    Wow! What a powerfully moving video clip...makes you stop and think!



    Thanks for sharing DL,

    Rose
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    To know oneself is to know the universe...


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    Come let us reason together...Isa.1:18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest I am View Post
    Because the situation was to be exactly what he planned in his great plan.
    It continues. To believers that is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoP...layer_embedded

    Regards
    DL
    Thanks for sharing that DL. It really helps show how foolish and selfish the "God has a wonderful plan for you life" schtick really is. It appeals only to those who are living in the lap of luxury and don't have a clue about how "God" normally treats most of his "children" (with total disregard for their life and well-being).

    One point of detail - the story of Kevin Carter and the child in the photograph may not be entirely accurate. You can read about the conflicting reports in the wiki article:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter
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    Thanks for this Richard.

    I will check it out.

    Regards
    DL

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