Dreams and Visions for Americans

[Charisma]

Over twenty years ago, Rick Wiles - a Christian - received a vision which caused him to give up his job to start his own radio station, to warn Americans about what is coming to your land and nation. Others have been having similar revelations, and last week he ran (and is still running) a series of interviews with these other isloated American Christians.

Each day he broadcasts for an hour, which is then made available for download or 'listen again'. I just listened to Friday's (May 18) and realise one could turn the testimony of the interviewee on its head if one wanted to disbelieve his experience and research. However you slice it, it's a sobering interview.

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[Richard Amiel McGough]

Over twenty years ago, Rick Wiles - a Christian - received a vision which caused him to give up his job to start his own radio station, to warn Americans about what is coming to your land and nation. Others have been having similar revelations, and last week he ran (and is still running) a series of interviews with these other isloated American Christians.

Each day he broadcasts for an hour, which is then made available for download or 'listen again'. I just listened to Friday's (May 18) and realise one could turn the testimony of the interviewee on its head if one wanted to disbelieve his experience and research. However you slice it, it's a sobering interview.

www.trunews.com

Thanks for the link Charisma. I've downloaded the May 18th mp3 to my iPhone and will listen to it while I'm driving the stray momma cat with her three kittens that we captured down to the humane society. They breed like rabbits out here in the hinterland of Yakima where we live.

[Charisma]

Thanks for the link Charisma. I've downloaded the May 18th mp3 to my iPhone and will listen to it while I'm driving the stray momma cat with her three kittens that we captured down to the humane society. They breed like rabbits out here in the hinterland of Yakima where we live.

Awww! I will try to listen to some of the earlier discussions, too. It's a while since I listened to Rick Wiles regularly. I noticed his voice seems softer and more resigned to the outworking of what has God showed him.

I know he, and the others whom he interviews are not alone. For several years now, I've been coming across other Americans who've had the kind of dreams of different kinds of destruction coming, that these watchmen have had.



Now, on another forum, someone posted this. I checked out the website (www.thelordshour.com) and can't find this particular video (below) but he does boldly predict the destruction of New York (This is not a new prediction, but time is closing in.) (as well as California, the latter being very soon, he says).




Although I don't believe in a seven year tribulation, I see no reason to throw out every single prediction this man offers.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Awww! I will try to listen to some of the earlier discussions, too. It's a while since I listened to Rick Wiles regularly. I noticed his voice seems softer and more resigned to the outworking of what has God showed him.

I know he, and the others whom he interviews are not alone. For several years now, I've been coming across other Americans who've had the kind of dreams of different kinds of destruction coming, that these watchmen have had.

Well, "watchmen" have been predicting doomsday for 2000 years, and they all have one thing in common - they ALWAYS been wrong!

Why would you believe any of them?

Now, on another forum, someone posted this. I checked out the website (www.thelordshour.com) and can't find this particular video (below) but he does boldly predict the destruction of New York (This is not a new prediction, but time is closing in.) (as well as California, the latter being very soon, he says).




Although I don't believe in a seven year tribulation, I see no reason to throw out every single prediction this man offers.

That guy sounds like a typical doomsday loon. Why would anyone believe a word he says? I just don't get it. And besides, he's already been proven false. The video has been on YouTube for at least eight months, and he was predicting all the destruction to come down within a month of the time he spoke. So he's already been proven to be just another false doomsday prophet.

Why do you believe these kinds of people? Do you believe anyone just because they say that Jesus talked to them?

Great chatting my friend!

Richard

[Charisma]

Hi Richard,

Regarding the video I posted, I don't know what to make of it, except that he specifically mentions May and June.

However, not all watchmen are 'wrong'. Have you read David Wilkerson's 'The Vision'?

He may have given forty years warning of what we're living through now, but, he wasn't 'wrong', no matter how unlikely his observations seemed at the time.

Why would you believe any of them?

That's a good question. I didn't say I believed the guy in the video, but I'm not prepared to write off his words, completely; even if it's another few years before California has a major quake; the foretelling that New York is going to have a major disaster I do believe, and that the same event may reach halfway west at a similar latitude has been predicted by too many 'watchmen' to ignore.

Time will tell.

My main interest is because of the several dear friends I've made scattered across the US in the last ten years, some of whom may be affected at least. Many times our minds deceive us when we're feeling unsettled, but those who are led by the Holy Spirit, if they obey Him, can find themselves not in the wrong place at the wrong time - although I'm not saying that believers who die in disasters were in the 'wrong place at the wrong time'.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi Richard,

Regarding the video I posted, I don't know what to make of it, except that he specifically mentions May and June.

However, not all watchmen are 'wrong'. Have you read David Wilkerson's 'The Vision'?

He may have given forty years warning of what we're living through now, but, he wasn't 'wrong', no matter how unlikely his observations seemed at the time.

Why would you believe any of them?

That's a good question. I didn't say I believed the guy in the video, but I'm not prepared to write off his words, completely; even if it's another few years before California has a major quake; the foretelling that New York is going to have a major disaster I do believe, and that the same event may reach halfway west at a similar latitude has been predicted by too many 'watchmen' to ignore.

Time will tell.

My main interest is because of the several dear friends I've made scattered across the US in the last ten years, some of whom may be affected at least. Many times our minds deceive us when we're feeling unsettled, but those who are led by the Holy Spirit, if they obey Him, can find themselves not in the wrong place at the wrong time - although I'm not saying that believers who die in disasters were in the 'wrong place at the wrong time'.

Hi Charisma,

I have not read Wilkerson's book, and can't imagine why you would ask. The full title of the book is "The Vision: A Terrifying Prophecy of Doomsday that is Starting to Happen Now!" It was written 38 years ago in 1974! It is a prime example of a prophecy that failed on a grand scale, not unlike Harold Camping's prediction of the rapture last May 21. Why anyone would believe any of it mystifies me.

The self-proclaimed "watchmen" are all ignorant, delusional, or liars. They breed a contempt for the truth when they make false prophecies in the name of God. How any Christian could believe them for a minute mystifies me. The watchmen lift themselves up as "prophets" as if they were hearing from God Himself. Wilkerson repeatedly said he was getting his information from God. And when they are wrong, all their followers make up excuses for them and continue to follow them - which reveals their contempt for the truth. Anyone with an ounce of respect for truth would expose the falsehoods, not try to make excuses for them. But they just keep going on and on with their false predictions, claiming that they are "watchmen" who hear from God Himself! What arrogance! It's one thing to make a false prediction and to repent of such foolishness. It's quite another to keep it going year after year, spreading fear, doom, and gloom in the name of Christ and the Almighty Dollar (which the fleece from the sheep in abundance).

I'm so sorry to see that you are letting their false doomsday predictions affect your heart and mind and take your peace from you. You would do well to flee from such an insidious influence.

I'm very optimistic about everything. I've already had a good life, so everything now is icing on the cake. I have no fears of any kind. It is a joyous way to be. I hope you can find your way to this place of peace.

All the very best,

Richard