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    CWH wrote,

    If you want to avoid the rest of the questions, it's fine with me but please answer this simple question, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?".
    Hi CWH,

    If I was a betting man, I'll bet Richard will choose neither, but rather will choose a third option

    God bless---Twospirits
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    You mean God cannot make mistake? Show me a verse that says that. I fact God regretted deeply for making men who became so evil, God regretted what he wanted to do to King Hezekiah?
    OK - you think God makes mistakes. How incompetent do you think he is? Totally? If not, why not? And why believe the Bible is true if it was inspired by a God who makes mistakes?

    So I guess that clears things up. You are saying that neither God nor the Bible are trustworthy.

    Got it!

    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    If you want to avoid the rest of the questions, it's fine with me but please answer this simple question, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?".
    That's a false dichotomy. There are many other possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twospirits View Post
    Hi CWH,

    If I was a betting man, I'll bet Richard will choose neither, but rather will choose a third option

    God bless---Twospirits
    Good guess! That's exactly what I did. And for good reason as anyone can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twospirits View Post
    Hi CWH,

    If I was a betting man, I'll bet Richard will choose neither, but rather will choose a third option

    God bless---Twospirits
    Thanks Henry, that's a good one!

    I hope RAM will choose the third option, Kill and Resurrect, Kill and Resurrect, Kill and
    Resurrect. I have said that if only humans could Kill and Resurrect evil people and criminals ( which only God can do), there will be no evil and crime in this world. Imagine Kill and Resurrect all evil people and criminals in this world 1,000 years later and if they did not repent continue for the next 1,000 years and so on till they sincerely repent, there will be world peace and no evil and crime in this world.

    Henry, I know you are quite good in this and I do hope and appreciate if you can help me. I have looked through the internet but could not find if there was a hospitality custom in the ancient Middle East of wife lending or something akin to it. This will answer why in the OT, the people seemed readily to let their wives, daughters and concubines to sleep with male strangers and travellers and the males are ever eager to sleep with new male strangers and travellers that came into their lands. See my thread on The Tradition of Women Offerings:

    http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/show...Women-Offering

    God Blessings toyou and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twospirits View Post
    Hi CWH,

    If I was a betting man, I'll bet Richard will choose neither, but rather will choose a third option

    God bless---Twospirits
    Hey there Henry,

    I find it curious that you have something to say against my rational response to CWH, but give him a pass when he says that God and the Bible make mistakes.

    What's up with that? It looks like a double standard.

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Thanks Henry, that's a good one!

    I hope RAM will choose the third option, Kill and Resurrect, Kill and Resurrect, Kill and
    Resurrect. I have said that if only humans could Kill and Resurrect evil people and criminals ( which only God can do), there will be no evil and crime in this world. Imagine Kill and Resurrect all evil people and criminals in this world 1,000 years later and if they did not repent continue for the next 1,000 years and so on till they sincerely repent, there will be world peace and no evil and crime in this world.

    God Blessings toyou and all.
    So basically you are saying that nothing matters. I could go out and kill anyone, and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong because God will resurrect them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    So basically you are saying that nothing matters. I could go out and kill anyone, and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong because God will resurrect them?

    Kill and Resurrect 1,000 years later if only they sincerely repent! or do you wish they suffer forever in Hell?

    Now where is the answer to my question since you said you have many other possibilities:
    "Kill or be killed, which one do you choose?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Kill and Resurrect 1,000 years later if only they sincerely repent! or do you wish they suffer forever in Hell?
    So you admit that you believe there is no right or wrong? I can murder people and it's ok because they'll be resurrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Now where is the answer to my question since you said you have many other possibilities:
    "Kill or be killed, which one do you choose?".
    The question is too vague. What is the context of this killing you propose? For example, suppose someone held a gun to my head and said I had to kill my son or he would kill me? In that case, I would choose to be killed rather than to kill. But I'm guessing you intended your question to be restricted to threats against my own life. Is that correct? Are you simply asking about self-defense? If so, then I would kill someone who was trying to kill me if I could not stop them some other way like with a tazer gun. But I'm guessing your question was restricted even further, like "If killing an attacker were the only way to save yourself from being killed, which would you choose? To kill or be killed?" Now if you specify your question like that, the answer is quite simple. I would act in self-defense and kill my attacker. But that's a pretty unlikely situation - one that I've never encountered in my 52 years of living on this planet. So why are you so hung up on it? And why do you constantly ask silly questions that never lead to fruitful discourse rather than simply talking to me with intelligence? It feels like you just toss out comments to see what response you'll get, and then you just throw out more comments, but never actually engage me in conversation. That get's rather dull, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    So you admit that you believe there is no right or wrong? I can murder people and it's ok because they'll be resurrected?


    The question is too vague. What is the context of this killing you propose? For example, suppose someone held a gun to my head and said I had to kill my son or he would kill me? In that case, I would choose to be killed rather than to kill. But I'm guessing you intended your question to be restricted to threats against my own life. Is that correct? Are you simply asking about self-defense? If so, then I would kill someone who was trying to kill me if I could not stop them some other way like with a tazer gun. But I'm guessing your question was restricted even further, like "If killing an attacker were the only way to save yourself from being killed, which would you choose? To kill or be killed?" Now if you specify your question like that, the answer is quite simple. I would act in self-defense and kill my attacker. But that's a pretty unlikely situation - one that I've never encountered in my 52 years of living on this planet. So why are you so hung up on it? And why do you constantly ask silly questions that never lead to fruitful discourse rather than simply talking to me with intelligence? It feels like you just toss out comments to see what response you'll get, and then you just throw out more comments, but never actually engage me in conversation. That get's rather dull, you know.
    Why must I always have to repeat myself? Either you have myopia, if not amnesia....just joking. My question is stated in my previous post:

    Someone ever said, we want Peace but if the enemy wants to attack and kill you, get your land and property, ravaged your wife and family, do we just let them attack? Of course not,we fight back and make sure they pays. Kill or be killed! Which one do you choose? The obvious answer is Yes, you will kill. And if a thousand enemy came and and want to kill you, take your land, money and property, gang-raped your wife and daughters and then kill all your family, what do you do? Kill and be killed. Obviously, you will try to kill these 1,000 enemy if not everything you have will be gone. I am happy that you are making progress that it is moral to kill evil people who wants to harm you and your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWH View Post
    Why must I always have to repeat myself? Either you have myopia, if not amnesia....just joking. My question is stated in my previous post:

    Someone ever said, we want Peace but if the enemy wants to attack and kill you, get your land and property, ravaged your wife and family, do we just let them attack? Of course not,we fight back and make sure they pays. Kill or be killed! Which one do you choose? The obvious answer is Yes, you will kill. And if a thousand enemy came and and want to kill you, take your land, money and property, gang-raped your wife and daughters and then kill all your family, what do you do? Kill and be killed. Obviously, you will try to kill these 1,000 enemy if not everything you have will be gone. I am happy that you are making progress that it is moral to kill evil people who wants to harm you and your family.

    God Blessed.
    I would kill to protect my family and property, just like the Canaanites should have done when the hoard of wicked Israelites invaded their land, killed their women and children, and stole all their property.

    Your question mystifies me. It appears to be designed to make God and Israel look like criminals.
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