Why didn't the US Government did themselves?

[CWH]

I would like to put this discussion to the floor which RAM seems to be at a loss, Why didn't the US government did the killing of the terrorists in the Middle East themselves by sending nuclear missiles or drones or rockets instead of sending young soldiers there risking their lives and limbs fighting? This is in relation to why didn't God did the killings Himself instead of commanding the Israelites to do so.


May God Bless us with Wisdom.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I would like to put this discussion to the floor which RAM seems to be at a loss, Why didn't the US government did the killing of the terrorists in the Middle East themselves by sending nuclear missiles or drones or rockets instead of sending young soldiers there risking their lives and limbs fighting? This is in relation to why didn't God did the killings Himself instead of commanding the Israelites to do so.


May God Bless us with Wisdom.

Why do you say such silly things? I am not "at a loss" on this issue at all. On the contrary, the answer is obvious. The use of nuclear weapons would kill massive numbers of civilians and ruin their land for decades. It would be a very immoral thing to do if there were any other options.

You statement that this is "in relation to why didn't God did the killings Himself instead of commanding the Israelites to do so" is ludicrous. God could have removed the Canaanites without destroying spewing radiation all over the land, and without killing a single innocent person if that was his intent. The fact that you can't imagine any other solutions shows that you have utterly closed you mind because you feel a need to justify what the Bible says about God. This shows again how dogmatic religion corrupts both the minds and the morals of those who are in bondage to it.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

If I don't say such silly things, how could I receive a response from you?

Dude! I'd talk with you a lot more if you made more sense.

You are partially right in saying the reason why nuclear weapons are not used but you are still ignorant of many reasons why the US government sent young men to fight in the Middle East risking their lives and limbs when they could have bombed the region with tonnes of bombs from missile, rockets, high flyer bombers. I will wait for more response from others and keep you in suspense before I answer.

God Bless us all.

How do you know that I'm "ignorant of many reasons why the US government sent young men to fight in the Middle East"? The fact that I didn't write a hundred pages detailing everything I know about those things does not imply that I don't have that knowledge. It is an error to make assumptions like that.

[Timmy]

Eewwwww...iknow iknow iknow why

Hiyalll!!!

Just like the amerikan government, in a hands on testing experiment STS:
...trying out new bioweaponry (such as that implimented inducing GWSyndrome resulting from the Gulf War--and prolly another fine Monsanto product at that)
...gps guided cruise missiles (and an on hand clean-up crew to boot)
..and that whole Rooseveltian blingblingin' after bankrolling the acquisitional control of the oil (Mo' money mo' money mo' money)...

Because God is in control, mayhaps it's the whole idea of complicity in his hands on experiment (at least from our slanted perspectivity)?

WHACHA SAY RAM &/or CWH?


Hopefully this is adding a more ingenuous mix-updedness to the mix-updedness that is allready here.


Xao ab ordo ab Xao,

Timmy

p.s. Seriously?

The epitome-oh-my ov Thee Amerikan Dreem will be over before it ever begins. Anyone who is clear about this should take drastic autonomous action. Before it is too late, either form your own anarchistic collective, come to be recognized as an anachronism, or declare yourself an independent sovereign nation.

[CWH]

Originally Posted by RAM
Why do you say such silly things? I am not "at a loss" on this issue at all. On the contrary, the answer is obvious. The use of nuclear weapons would kill massive numbers of civilians and ruin their land for decades. It would be a very immoral thing to do if there were any other options.

You statement that this is "in relation to why didn't God did the killings Himself instead of commanding the Israelites to do so" is ludicrous. God could have removed the Canaanites without destroying spewing radiation all over the land, and without killing a single innocent person if that was his intent. The fact that you can't imagine any other solutions shows that you have utterly closed you mind because you feel a need to justify what the Bible says about God. This shows again how dogmatic religion corrupts both the minds and the morals of those who are in bondage to it.

All right, these are the answers and that also answer why God did not do the killing Himself but command the Israelites to do.

If the US government were to sent nuclear bombs to Middle East without sending young soldiers will result in:
1, Killing people who are pro-US and killing those who are anti-US
2. Its destruction and killing power will be enormous.
3. It will not destroy terrorism as the terrorists may hide in caves and have terrorist networks worldwide
4. It will result in nuclear weapons proliferation as more nations will acquire nuclear weapons to defend themselves since the US is so trigger happy with nuclear weapons
5. It will make the land bombed by nuclear weapons useless for decades and even centuries
6. It will endanger neighboring countries around with harmful nuclear irradiation incurring wrath and health and environmental disasters
7. It may even start a nuclear war or WW3 since the nuclear weapons will be flying towards Europe, Russia, India, China, Pakistan
8. It may destroy many oilfields in the Middle East which the US and the world depended on causing high inflation, economic woes and oil crisis.
9. Giving the impression of the US as an aggressor and a bully
10. Giving the impression that the US soldiers are useless and cowards and too dependent on the US Government nuclear arsenal.

Why sent young soldiers there to fight in the Middle East? This is to:
1, No choice since nuclear bombardment is not a good option.
2. its commitment to help its allies and it's determination to fight the terrorists in the Middle East
3. To boast its military power and military armament and prestige so that people fear the US
4. To test new weapons and warfare and military strategies
5. To let soldiers gain experience in warfare and assess loyalty and effectiveness i.e. to be battle-hardy
6. To protect its interest in the Middle East mainly oil and obtain grants
7. To be more specific in killing the enemy minimizing killing friends and hugh destruction of property
8. To get Congress to spend more money on defense including weapons and jobs
9. To encourage sales of US military hardwares
10. To maintain its position as the world's superpower

Now based on the above reasons we can deduce why God wanted the Israelites to kill God's enemies instead of God Himself:

1. If God did it Himself chances are that He may kill those who are good and righteous together with the bad. Good example are Rahab and the virgins who were saved and not killed with the evil men.
2. Killings and destruction of property will be minimize(compare with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah)
3. To showcase/boast the might of the Israelites and God so that all God's enemies will fear them and repent of their evil ways. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
4. To gain experience and battle-hardiness of the Israelite in warfare and defending themselves against God's enemies whilst building a powerful army and nation.
5. To be self-reliance in fighting against evil people with minimal help from God.
6. God tests to see the loyalty and faithfulness and obedience of God's people
7. To show that God is very powerful and will help and show mercy to God's people whenever they are in trouble or when they repent
8. To show that evil unrepentent men will never win against God and His people.

I know what's in RAM and Rose's mind, why Kill, Kill, Kill?
My answer is if those people are incorrigible in their evil ways, why Save, Save, Save? Imagine if Hitler and the Nazi were not destroyed and were victorious, will the world now be better? If killing is a taboo, it will become a weakness and what if the enemy were to attack? Surrender because cannot kill and do not want to be killed? Imagine what will happen to the USA if the US army do not kill, will US enemies then be afraid of the US? and if they attack the US, will the US surrender because they cannot kill and do not want a single US citizen killed? Someone ever said, we want Peace but if the enemy wants to attack and kill you, get your land and property, ravaged your wife and family, do we just let them attack? Of course not,we fight back and make sure they pays. Kill or be killed! Which one do you choose?


May the Peace, Wisdom and Grace of God be with everyone and forevermore.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Now based on the above reasons we can deduce why God wanted the Israelites to kill God's enemies instead of God Himself:

1. If God did it Himself chances are that He may kill those who are good and righteous together with the bad. Good example are Rahab and the virgins who were saved and not killed with the evil men.

Oh my ... I am stunned that any Christian could suggest such an absurdity!

You are saying that God can't destroy the wicked without accidentally killing the innocent, but that the Israeli soldiers could? That's nuts!

[CWH]

Oh my ... I am stunned that any Christian could suggest such an absurdity!

You are saying that God can't destroy the wicked without accidentally killing the innocent, but that the Israeli soldiers could? That's nuts!

Is that all you can comment? what about the rest? Come on, give me your best shots. On the same note, please tell me why didn't God destroyed the marine creatures and plants but everything that lived on land in the Great Flood? Tell me also why Rahab and the 43,000 virgins were saved? I have asked a question and I am awaiting your answer, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?"

God Blessings to all?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Is that all you can comment? what about the rest? Come on, give me your best shots. On the same note, please tell me why didn't God destroyed the marine creatures and plants but everything that lived on land in the Great Flood? Tell me also why Rahab and the 43,000 virgins were saved? I have asked a question and I am awaiting your answer, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?"

God Blessings to all?

If you begin your list of reasons with a totally absurd assertion that indicates you have ZERO understanding of the Christian concept of God, and then you respond without even answering my what I wrote, why should I bother answering all the other points which were equally silly? I would be delighted to have an intelligent conversation with you, but to do that you must choose to respond to what I actually write.

So tell me, how is it possible that you think God would be incapable of selectively destroying the wicked without harming the innocent? Are you saying he's a totally inept fool? You make a mockery of the concept of God when you say things like that.

[Rose]

Is that all you can comment? what about the rest? Come on, give me your best shots. On the same note, please tell me why didn't God destroyed the marine creatures and plants but everything that lived on land in the Great Flood? Tell me also why Rahab and the 43,000 virgins were saved? I have asked a question and I am awaiting your answer, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?"

God Blessings to all?

I will happily answer your questions of why god didn't destroy the marine creatures with the Flood, and why Rahab and the 32,000 virgins were saved.

The Bible was written by primitive men, and those men made up stories to fit their own ideas of how a male warrior god should act and think...that is why there are so many contradictions, scientific errors and outright falsehoods contained in Scripture.

Rose

[CWH]

If you begin your list of reasons with a totally absurd assertion that indicates you have ZERO understanding of the Christian concept of God, and then you respond without even answering my what I wrote, why should I bother answering all the other points which were equally silly? I would be delighted to have an intelligent conversation with you, but to do that you must choose to respond to what I actually write.

So tell me, how is it possible that you think God would be incapable of selectively destroying the wicked without harming the innocent? Are you saying he's a totally inept fool? You make a mockery of the concept of God when you say things like that.

You mean God cannot make mistake? Show me a verse that says that. I fact God regretted deeply for making men who became so evil, God regretted what he wanted to do to King Hezekiah?
Of course, God can selectively destroy the wicked without harming the innocent but why did He want to wait till a later time to gather all the wicked and good together and separate them? He also want the Israelites to learn separating the good from the bad.

Matt. 13:24-31.
Another Parable put he forth to them, saying. The Kingdom of Heaven is like a man which sowed good seed in his field; but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the weeds also. So the servants of the householder came and said to him. Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field! From whence then has it weeds? He said to them. An enemy has done this. The servants said to him. Will you then that we go and gather them up? But he said. Nay; lest, while you gather up the weeds, you root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together, until the harvest; and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather you together, first the weeds, and bind them in: bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.

If you want to avoid the rest of the questions, it's fine with me but please answer this simple question, "Kill or be killed! which one do you choose?".

God Blessed.