Originally Posted by David M
The answer is simple: Revelation was written around 64 AD, just before the Roman siege against the Great Harlot Jerusalem began in 66 AD. This is confirmed in the opening lines that you quoted. The prophecy was about "things which must shortly come to pass" because "the time is at hand." There we see a double confirmation of the time texts. The things must happen "soon" because "the time is at hand." These words would be false if the events have yet to happen after two thousand years. And they are confirmed again by Christ's statement that all things would be fulfilled in "this generation" meaning the first century generation. And they are confirmed again by nearly all the NT books which speak of the "day of the Lord" coming soon, because it was "at the door" and so on and so forth. The evidence is total and complete. It cannot be controverted.
So what about the current scholastic consensus on the late date of Revelation? Since when did you begin to care about scholastic consensus???? If you follow them, then you believe that Luke was written around 80 AD! Is that what you believe? If not, are you not picking and choosing the "scholastic consensus" only when it serves your purposes?
Have you read Redating the New Testament by John A. T. Robinson? He asserts that all the books of the NT were written pre-70 AD because none of them mention the destruction of the Temple. If they were written after that event, it would be like reading the September 12th, 2001 edition of the New York Times with no mention of the Twin Towers.
The integration of the book of Revelation with the Olivet Discourse is extremely tight. That's why it's called the "little apocalypse." The Great City, the Harlot, is identified as Jerusalem in Rev 11:8, where she also is called Sodom and Egypt. And the prophecy that Christ gave against Jerusalem immediately before the Olivet Discourse is fulfilled in the fall of the great harlot:
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, >>>All these things shall come upon this generation<<<.Everything is tightly integrated. I don't see how anyone could miss something so obvious. The underlined prophecy is very similar to other prophecies against apostate Jerusalem given by Jeremiah:
Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Jeremiah 7:30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. 32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place. 33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away. 34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate. I could go on and on. It's all so obvious. The Futurist paradigm has nothing like this kind of support from Scripture.
Jeremiah 16:9 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will cause to cease out of this place in your eyes, and in your days, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride.
Jeremiah 25:10 Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle.