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  1. #31
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    The problems with the genealogies are legion. For example, different Greek texts of Luke differ radically:

    NKJ Luke 3:33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah,
    NAS Luke 3:33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Admin, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah,
    CJB Luke 3:33 of Amminadav, of Admin, of Arni, of Hetzron, of Peretz, of Y'hudah,

    Who is "Admin"? Who is "Arni"?

    And look at what this page says:

    Both Matthew and Luke have a weak link at Zerubbabel. Although each names a different son of Zerubbabel as continuing the line, neither son mentioned is listed in 1 Chronicles 3.19-20 as belonging to Zerubbabel (Masoretic and LXX). ... neither Abiud (according to Matthew) nor Rhesa (according to Luke) make the list. Fitzmyer, page 500, on Rhesa:
    The suggestion has been made that this name is actually a Greek transliteration of the Aramaic title rēšā’, "prince," and that it should be taken with the former name, "Prince Joanan, son of Zerubbabel," referring to Hananiah, the son of Zerubbabel in 1 Chr 3:19. According to Plummer (Commentary, 104), "some Jewish copyist" of the pre-Lucan list would have mistaken it for a proper name.... This is, however, highly speculative, and the formation of the list, as it now stands in the Lucan text, is against it.
    Focusing genealogies leads to nothing but endless debate, confusion, speculation, and uncertainty. I think this is probably why the Bible warns against it:

    1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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    The 66 Genealogy – horse meat, anyone?
    1. The 3x10 of the OT has symmetry with the 3x14 of the NT.
    2. The 19 names prior to Abraham agree with adding 5 names to the Solomon column in Matthew.
    3. The 33 and 66 agree with the acrostic eleven style; like Ps119 and Lamentations.
    4. The no-sons account of Zelophehad in Numb26 agrees w Mary’s situation.
    5. The requirement for girls to marry into their own tribe agrees with Numb 36.
    6. The multiple Joseph’s in Luke3 fit the profile of Mary’s husband.
    7. Three names are ‘skipped’ in Ruth’s Ten, and 3 names are ‘skipped’ in Matthew, right at the 39/27 junction.
    8. The two father-son pair of 'Jacob to Joseph' both appear in Matthew: worthy of our attention.
    9. Also, the two father-son pair of 'Salathiel to Zorobabel' -- did we notice?
    10. None are etched in granite – maybe only in jello?

    The glory of God is to conceal a matter – the honor of kings is to search it out.. Prov25:2
    "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men".1Cor1:25
    Dux allows: "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out the matter". Pr25:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxrow View Post
    The 66 Genealogy – horse meat, anyone?
    1. The 3x10 of the OT has symmetry with the 3x14 of the NT.
    2. The 19 names prior to Abraham agree with adding 5 names to the Solomon column in Matthew.
    3. The 33 and 66 agree with the acrostic eleven style; like Ps119 and Lamentations.
    4. The no-sons account of Zelophehad in Numb26 agrees w Mary’s situation.
    5. The requirement for girls to marry into their own tribe agrees with Numb 36.
    6. The multiple Joseph’s in Luke3 fit the profile of Mary’s husband.
    7. Three names are ‘skipped’ in Ruth’s Ten, and 3 names are ‘skipped’ in Matthew, right at the 39/27 junction.
    8. The two father-son pair of 'Jacob to Joseph' both appear in Matthew: worthy of our attention.
    9. Also, the two father-son pair of 'Salathiel to Zorobabel' -- did we notice?
    10. None are etched in granite – maybe only in jello?

    The glory of God is to conceal a matter – the honor of kings is to search it out.. Prov25:2
    "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men".1Cor1:25
    OK - you made your case very well. I will answer your points if you would like to continue, or we can just let it rest.

    Peace!

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