Miracle Healings

[Beck]

I would like to heard your thoughts on how you perceive these revival miracles of healing. There is one in particular I would like for us to focus on and that is from the Bay of Holy Spirit revivals. I'm very skeptical of these healings for one reason is that John Kilpatrick has a connection to this revival, but that aside what do you think of the miracle of Delia Knox's.





I'm hoping to hear from you Richard.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I would like to heard your thoughts on how you perceive these revival miracles of healing. There is one in particular I would like for us to focus on and that is from the Bay of Holy Spirit revivals. I'm very skeptical of these healings for one reason is that John Kilpatrick has a connection to this revival, but that aside what do you think of the miracle of Delia Knox's.





I'm hoping to hear from you Richard.

What miracle? If God healed her, he did a lousy job! She couldn't even walk without being held up by two strong men. It looks like just another "work of the flesh" trying to mimic the things of the spirit from what I see in the video. And what's with all those people laying around "slain in the spirit"? What a load of crap. A real miracle would look like this:

Acts 3:1 Now Peter and John went up together to the temple at the hour of prayer, the ninth hour. 2 And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms from those who entered the temple; 3 who, seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple, asked for alms. 4 And fixing his eyes on him, with John, Peter said, "Look at us." 5 So he gave them his attention, expecting to receive something from them. 6 Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk." 7 And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. 8 So he, leaping up, stood and walked and entered the temple with them -- walking, leaping, and praising God. 9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God.

If there was an authentic miraculous healing, I'd like to see the medical report. Of course there won't be one ... there never is. Hank Hanegraaff asked Benny Hinn for his three best documented miracles (after thousands of people stood on his stage claiming to be healed) and not one could be supported by the evidence. It's all crap. It's just another knockoff of the Benny Hinn $alvation and Healing Carnival.

And speaking of Hanegraaff - John Kilpatrick "prophesied" in the name of God about Hank Hanegraaff saying "I’m going to prophesy to you that if you don’t [stop criticizing the Brownsville Revival] ... within 90 days the Holy Ghost will bring you down." His prophecy failed, of course. Hank is still speaking out against the false Brownsville Revival after many years. His "prophecy" was typical false and mindless bullshit proclaimed in the name of God by a Christian conman.

That's what I think about it.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

The video went viral in 2010 and CNN did a story on it. Look at what the news anchor reported (from the transcript):

"Now, again, there's been no medical explanation of why she's able to walk now. Delia Knox didn't want to talk about what her doctor or physical therapist think, and she wouldn't go into detail about the medical condition that caused the paralysis. One skeptic says that maybe she could walk but just didn't before that revival. "

No big surprize, eh? A supposedly great miracle of God lacking only one thing - verifiable proof! What then does the video prove? Nothing.

How pathetic.

Christians who attempt to live by the sword of evidence soon realize how deadly it is.

[Beck]

The video went viral in 2010 and CNN did a story on it. Look at what the news anchor reported (from the transcript):

"Now, again, there's been no medical explanation of why she's able to walk now. Delia Knox didn't want to talk about what her doctor or physical therapist think, and she wouldn't go into detail about the medical condition that caused the paralysis. One skeptic says that maybe she could walk but just didn't before that revival. "

No big surprize, eh? A supposedly great miracle of God lacking only one thing - verifiable proof! What then does the video prove? Nothing.

How pathetic.

Christians who attempt to live by the sword of evidence soon realize how deadly it is.

I was asked about this so claimed miracle of Knox's becasue I stated that I don't read the miracles in the bible as literal physical healings, but rather literature devices to convey the idea of healing in the spiritual. They calimed that they know of some friends in Bama that went to her church and was there in the Bay revival when she got healed. They claimed that some 22 years she was bound to a wheelchair, so to them it was a miracle.

My response was that it great, but what makes it a miracle by God becasue they have been people that have recovered without being prayed for nor being a christain. Sometimes it only a matter of time to allow for the body to heal itself. I'm thinking that might be one reason that the medical reports is not put forth.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I was asked about this so claimed miracle of Knox's becasue I stated that I don't read the miracles in the bible as literal physical healings, but rather literature devices to convey the idea of healing in the spiritual. They calimed that they know of some friends in Bama that went to her church and was there in the Bay revival when she got healed. They claimed that some 22 years she was bound to a wheelchair, so to them it was a miracle.

My response was that it great, but what makes it a miracle by God becasue they have been people that have recovered without being prayed for nor being a christain. Sometimes it only a matter of time to allow for the body to heal itself. I'm thinking that might be one reason that the medical reports is not put forth.

It could have been a spontaneous emotion-driven recovery but I see nothing that would make me think it was an act of God. No evidence was presented, and the "healing" looked exactly like what I would expect if people lifted her out of the chair and helped her walk. Why doesn't she want to talk about what her physical therapist thought about it? Probably because the therapist was helping her walk between two bars to keep her leg muscles from atrophying. Why did she not want to share the medical details of this "miracle" if they supported that it was a miracle? She's a PREACHER! Why would she not proclaim the evidence? Probably because there was none. It seems very obvious to me. If they had real evidence, they would parade it for all to see. We know this is true because they are parading the video as "evidence." Unfortunately, it's not evidence of anything.

As for your idea that the miracles of the Bible were really just "literary devices" - well, if that's the case, then why not conclude that the whole Bible is just a myth? Why believe any of it?

[Beck]

It could have been a spontaneous emotion-driven recovery but I see nothing that would make me think it was an act of God. No evidence was presented, and the "healing" looked exactly like what I would expect if people lifted her out of the chair and helped her walk. Why doesn't she want to talk about what her physical therapist thought about it? Probably because the therapist was helping her walk between two bars to keep her leg muscles from atrophying. Why did she not want to share the medical details of this "miracle" if they supported that it was a miracle? She's a PREACHER! Why would she not proclaim the evidence? Probably because there was none. It seems very obvious to me. If they had real evidence, they would parade it for all to see. We know this is true because they are parading the video as "evidence." Unfortunately, it's not evidence of anything.

As for your idea that the miracles of the Bible were really just "literary devices" - well, if that's the case, then why not conclude that the whole Bible is just a myth? Why believe any of it?

While watching the video I notice that a group was around her. It was said that it was late and many had left. So it looked as if they focus on her becasue maybe she was a preacher/wife and or becasue she was in a wheelchair as other's laid out in the spirit with no one accenting them in prayer. I would also point out that in a service where miracles happen the quality of the spirit seems limited at most from services I've seen personally. I would also notice that she said that she could fell their hands on her legs even before any really movement from the spirit. That's not to say that has to happen before a so call miracle happens....Jesus just told them to rise up and walk.

I also saw a young man or young boy in one of these videos from the Bay revivials. The boy got up with help and begun to walk as if it was his very first time. I thought of my next door neighor when I was a boy. My neighor was paralyzed and over time without therapy he begun to get better and even get up out of his wheelchair and to walk very slowly with help of his cain. He got better even to drive his car , but this was over some ten are more years. Yet he still was in a wheelchair.

So I would have no problem with Knox's recovering over the 22 years until she could walk with help given that she went to therapy. It might seem she wanted the event to be on video and even cnn.


There is something to learn from myths. As to the miracle of Peter walking on water....Well I would not consider that to be literal so what can we learn from this image?