Natural versus Artificial

[Rose]

The knowledge of humans has increased to the point of our being able to understand that every natural thing we see around us, can in some manner be traced back its origins using the scientific method…either to the Big Bang, or the origins of DNA. On the other hand, every artificially created thing we see around us (buildings, cars, computers, etc.) has been constructed by either humans…or animals who instinctively know how to build nests and habitats.

Pondering those thoughts… it occurred to me that there is not one artificially constructed object that can be attributed to 'God'. Now, I know the strongly held belief of millions of people is that 'God' created the heavens and earth, and all therein, so if that is the case why do you suppose 'God' has never created anything other than what we now can naturally trace back to the beginnings of the universe? Every single invention we have has come from the minds of people, and consequently been built by people. I know people will say that 'God' put those ideas in the minds of men, but if that is the case then why didn’t he also create those things in the same manner he created the earth, or the first animals? Also a lot of unnecessary suffering could have been avoided if the human knowledge that took thousands of years to acquire, could have been instinctively implanted in our brains from the beginning.

Rose

[CWH]

Just answer me one question Rose, will man one day with his advanced knowledge of science (which I termed Creationology) be able to be like God and create animals, plants, planets, suns, moons etc and everything that we see in nature? If advanced human can do creation from the knowledge of advance science, isn't it appropriate to term science as creationology?

On the other hand, every artificially created thing we see around us (buildings, cars, computers, etc.) has been constructed by either humans…or animals who instinctively know how to build nests and habitats.

How can human create things if he did not have the brain in the first place? Why only human have such intelligent brain why not elephants, pigs, dogs, cats, birds have equally intelligent brains? If they have, would they also be able to create cars, buildings, computers etc. That would be very interesting. Who create animal instincts in the first place? Robots are dead piece of metal unless they are PROGRAMMED to do certain tasks. Isn't it possible that humans and animals are PROGRAMMED to do certain tasks?

Pondering those thoughts… it occurred to me that there is not one artificially constructed object that can be attributed to 'God'

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Pondering those thoughts… it occurred to me that there is not one inanimate proteins that can turn into living cell or a living animal or plant that can be attributed to evolution.

I know people will say that 'God' put those ideas in the minds of men, but if that is the case then why didn’t he also create those things in the same manner he created the earth, or the first animals?

It's the same as saying why Evolution didn't create humans with intelligence much earlier rather than take several billions of years to do so. It's the same as saying why kids cannot do the jobs that adults do? The reason is because they are still in their developmental stage and have not gain enough experience and learning to do so. It's the same as putting a man from a primitive tribe in the jungle of Amazon to live in a modern city like New York and expect him to be able to live and cope there. He will probably die the next moment from stress and cultural shock.
The answer is simple, righteous souls are what God's after and Earth is a farmland for those righteous souls for the Kingdom of Heaven. Humans need to reach a stage of maturity with the necessary skills, experience and quality to inherit into the golden era of utopia which is known as the Kingdom of Heaven. It's like a prospective employer looking for qualified suitable men with the necessary skills and experience to work in his company.

God Blessings to all.

[Rose]

Just answer me one question Rose, will man one day with his advanced knowledge of science (which I termed Creationology) be able to be like God and create animals, plants, planets, suns, moons etc and everything that we see in nature? If advanced human can do creation from the knowledge of advance science, isn't it appropriate to term science as creationology?

Yes, I can imagine a day when man will be able to create plants and animals...why not? If someone who lived in the 19th century had been told about computers they would have thought the people who designed them were gods. I don't know about the term creationology, since people have always created things of one sort or another.

How can human create things if he did not have the brain in the first place? Why only human have such intelligent brain why not elephants, pigs, dogs, cats, birds have equally intelligent brains? If they have, would they also be able to create cars, buildings, computers etc. That would be very interesting. Who create animal instincts in the first place? Robots are dead piece of metal unless they are PROGRAMMED to do certain tasks. Isn't it possible that humans and animals are PROGRAMMED to do certain tasks?

A recent discovery in the field of genetics has found the the gene that regulates how many neurons the brain makes went through a mutation about the time that humans split off from primates on the tree of life. The mutation allowed the human brain to make hundreds of times more neurons then that of primate brains. One of the theories is that more neurons allow for more memory room, which led to self-awareness.

All the best,
Rose

[heb13-13]

The knowledge of humans has increased to the point of our being able to understand that every natural thing we see around us, can in some manner be traced back its origins using the scientific method…either to the Big Bang, or the origins of DNA. On the other hand, every artificially created thing we see around us (buildings, cars, computers, etc.) has been constructed by either humans…or animals who instinctively know how to build nests and habitats.

Pondering those thoughts… it occurred to me that there is not one artificially constructed object that can be attributed to 'God'. Now, I know the strongly held belief of millions of people is that 'God' created the heavens and earth, and all therein, so if that is the case why do you suppose 'God' has never created anything other than what we now can naturally trace back to the beginnings of the universe? Every single invention we have has come from the minds of people, and consequently been built by people.

Rose, it's simple. You answered part of it.

God creates life. Man cannot create Life. He can give birth to it, but cannot create it. Man in all of his pride and knowledge cannot even create a single cell.

I know people will say that 'God' put those ideas in the minds of men, but if that is the case then why didn’t he also create those things in the same manner he created the earth, or the first animals? Also a lot of unnecessary suffering could have been avoided if the human knowledge that took thousands of years to acquire, could have been instinctively implanted in our brains from the beginning.

Rose

Rose, suffering is not alleviated by giving us bigger and better brains (more knowledge). Suffering is alleviated by receiving a new heart from God where we begin to walk as Jesus walked. The Suffering in this world is not for lack of brains but because of sin, (pride, greed, lust for power, hatred, envy, jealousy, rebellion, etc).

It will always be that way Rose. Man is evolving technologically to great heights, but his heart has never changed. Still full of pride and greed and the only thing that can change a man's innate love for sin, Jesus Christ.

God gave men intelligence and the creative spark (made in God's image). So man thinks and dreams and creates, but only artificial things. God is not interested in artificial things, He is interested in that which is eternal.

YOU!!

"And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever" (1Jn 2:17)

best to you,
-rick

P.S. A lot of human suffering could have been avoided if man did not rebel and continue to rebel against God.

[heb13-13]

The answer is simple, righteous souls are what God's after and Earth is a farmland for those righteous souls for the Kingdom of Heaven. Humans need to reach a stage of maturity with the necessary skills, experience and quality to inherit into the golden era of utopia which is known as the Kingdom of Heaven. It's like a prospective employer looking for qualified suitable men with the necessary skills and experience to work in his company.

God Blessings to all.

Cheow,

I must have posted the same time as you.

We said the same basic thing that God is interested in that which is eternal, man (the soul of man). Yes, "the spirits of just men made perfect".

Heb 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Blessings to all,
Rick

[heb13-13]

One of the theories is that more neurons allow for more memory room, which led to self-awareness.

All the best,
Rose

Hi Rose,

The only self-awareness people need is a conscience that is not seared. "More self-awareness" is basically just codespeak for "no God".

You don't need anymore self-awareness than what God has given you in your conscience. Beyond that one needs "God-awareness.

All the best,
-rick