Our interpretation of Reality.

[Bob May]

Hi Kathryn and Rose and anyone else who wanders here,

Hi All, Bob...I am the same way...and as you say, it is finding the middle ground (or pillar), where the integration occurs. This is the whole concept of the "midst"...in typology; the midst of the Jordan where the ark rests and where we return to, to pick up the "12 stones", the midst of the candlesticks etc. John's revelation of Jesus Christ on Patmos (my dying) BEGINS when he sees Christ in the midst of the candlesticks. (or the heart/core of the Bride/Body)

Our midst is where our imagination resides, which must be cleansed . As we receive revelation or rhema, it witnesses to our subconcious mind and the double witness of the two (heart/mind/Spirit) brings integration to the imagination. It's a long process that speeds up as we gain in understanding. It's like a plug in a drainpipe ; after awhile, the force and amount of the water, which has been slowly eroding away the clog, becomes greater and greater...until our imagination becomes fully intergrated. (the light has moved through the "pieces":-)

It is the Word (rhema) as the double edged sword, that separates the realm of division in the soul, from the realm of Spirit (lower waters from upper waters), in order that full integration of the two can occur.


Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

We become the hands and feet of God, when the midst or marrow is producing Life and the joints can move in unison with the Life. Bending the knee is simply coming into full agreement with our "marrow". The cubit is measured from the elbow to the hand...etc.

Hi Kathryn,

Data from Strong's Concordance
KJV Hebrew Strong's # Value
And it came to pass, that, when the sun שמש H8121 shemesh 640
went down, בוא H0935 bow' 9
and it was dark, עלטה H5939 `alatah 114
behold a smoking עשן H6227 `ashan 420
furnace, תנור H8574 tannuwr 656
and a burning אש H0784 'esh 301
lamp לפיד H3940 lappiyd 124
that passed עבר H5674 `abar 272
between בין H0996 beyn 62
those pieces. גזר H1506 gezer 210

Ge 15:7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.

This can be looked at at two diferent levels. Ur of the Chaldees is Yesod the "light of the Magicians" It is also the emotional plane, where most people think from. Yesod, Hod And Netzach.
So, in one sense it can apply to someone caught up in the "Occult Jungle" Nature magic, pychism, etc.
But on another level it is all of us. We are born into this world and our viewpoints are pretty much laid out for us through Culture and beliefs and family, etc. It is an unconscious indoctrination we all go through.
To break through from that is to escape the "Black Magicians" as don Juan called it. They are everyone we come into contact with.
That was the beginning of Abram's Journey, to break free of this way of thinking that everyone shares.


Ge 15:8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
Ge 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
Ge 15:10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.

This is a side to side split with a vertical line going down the middle.
Three mirror images of three animals Ram on top, then She Goat and then the Heifer at the bottom.


Ge 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
Ge 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
Ge 15:15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
Ge 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Ge 15:17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.

So, the lamp goes from top to bottom between the pieces. Not side to side.
This is the tree of Life.

Ge 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Ge 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
Ge 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
Ge 15:21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

It is interesting that the word "between" is Beth,Yod, Nun.
The flame (Yod) in the midst of the Son,(Beth Nun),... which is Jesus and Us because this whole chapter is about the promise of inheritance.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Yes, this is the way I understand it. The Sword is a horizontal cut, so to speak. Dividing the soul from spirit is a discernment of what is coming from above and what is coming from below.

If everyone you know agrees on the same things then you have to step outside of the situation to even understand that you are caught up in something. We have to remove ourselves (or be removed) in order to see the situation.
This applies on every level, physical, emotional and spiritual.
The lamp coming down from above allows us to see our situation from a "Higher Perspective."
Now we can see where people are caught and at which places, because we were too.

This is the dividing soul from spirit and this is why when the word of God comes to a church, for example, the church splits in two. It is a horizonal cut and the pieces are one above another.

That is how I see it anyway.

Bob