Well, it doesn't matter at all when it comes to discerning the typological meaning of the story, but it matters intensely when attempting to determine the meaning of the book. If the story is meant literally, then it is false. That impacts it's significance. Yes...I realize that...and so I would have to say that only the typology matters. I just hate getting into the literal aspect...because if offends so many people...but its time for the divine enema for all of that, isn't it? (One of Stephen's ministry team, Ron Oja (you'd love him.Has your sense of humor)...was sitting on the terlet one day, and God told him he had a "throne" ministry:-) and that there was a "royal flush" coming . I believe you and Rose have a "throne" ministry as well
And I very much wonder why you believe any of it as opposed, say, to Buddhism or Theosophy or whatever.I haven't studied them...but I do believe Truth is found in many places. I wouldn't have thought to investigate the Tarot, until Bob brought it into focus. Again...if we have a hunger for Truth, we'll find it (or rather He will find us. That hound of Heaven doesn't care where we are when He finds us:-) We'll all come to a universal understanding of our Oneness in the end. When did you first come to think that the Bible is true? I had the same experience as you. I was a fundy for years...and finally realized it was killing me, rather than bringing me life. Have spent 15 years studying on my own. In 2002, I discovered Stephen Jones website and teachings , which confirmed many things I had been seeing in scripture, and then took some courses based on his teachings. I ask because many Christians would agree that the Bible is true but strongly disagree with your beliefs about what it says and means. yes...I know
Most Christians haven't studied the Bible at all, let alone the Law of Moses. But there are Christians that have studied the Bible a lot, and there are many who have written whole commentaries on each book of the OT. So why didn't they see all these marvelous truths? To say that they simply didn't "study" is a very disturbing answer because that answer has a history with me.yes...you're right, it is a very poor response. Thanks for pointing that out to me. As we are just beginning to understand Quantum Physics, I believe we are moving into a new era of understanding. The teachings of Stephen Jones are, as far as I know, the most integrated and comprehensive teachings I've come across coming out of christendom to date. He has gone into depth , not only in the Law and how it unfolds from Genesis to Revelation...but also an in depth study of biblical history, world history etc. He gave me the "bone structure" so to speak, and from that birthed deeper understanding in me. Through this process, I realized that there is no private interpretation in typology. It is like a mathematical forumula, confirming itself forwards, backwards, inside out. It is holographic in nature. And...thankfully, I am now very confident that I have seen enough of it, to be able to demonstrate it in a simple and concise manner. This is pure Joy to me. It's the answer that Harold Camping always gave when people would call and ask why he was right and everyone who disagreed with him was wrong. He would always say it was because they had not really studied the whole Bible. I'm not joking - this was the answer he would always give. I heard him say it a hundred times. So that answer has bad connotations for me. Again...thanks for pointing that out, because I have been guilty, more than once, of saying it. It is true though...that we MUST go back to the plumb line and re-examine what we've believed.
And besides, it creates another question. Why didn't God want anyone to understand his book?You are assuming that. Jesus said that He was longing to "kindle the fire". I believe God has been longing for us to understand...but the process , for some reason, has had to take a long time and I guess we won't fully understand that until we have the Mind of Christ How many people understand it the way you do? A few thousand maybe? If that's the case, then we are back to the original question about the trumpet with the uncertain sound. A trumpet that is understood by less than one percent of one percent of all the people who ever heard it is a very uncertain trumpet! Scripture does speak of a firstfruits company...(or Gideon company...John company...etc) Jesus had the 12, then an inner group of 3 and then John. This begins very small and grows. This can smell like elitism, I know...and many have fallen into that trap.
Everything we have is a gift. God is no respecter of persons. He hardens the hearts of some, softens others to accomplish His purposes...so no one can claim any virtue in where they are in the process. In fact...I don't know this for certain, but when its all said and done, I wonder if someone like Judas, we are going to discover, was one of those "uncomely" parts...who will , in the end, be given the most honor because he chose to walk out the part of the betrayer. It is possible, that we chose our calling before "the foundation of the world", and the carnal mind would never choose to be Judas ...hated throughout time as the one who betrayed Christ. This is all just speculation on my part...but I do believe we're going to find, when all is said and done...that it might be a little different from what we had expected.