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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    But why continue to cast everything in terms of a male God - male Christ with female Eve? Was not Adam created first? That would be the Goddess with her Adam.
    "adam" was created first in Gen 1....which is the spiritual creation, IMO. this is "mankind," NOT the male of the species, later identified as the individual named "Adam" ... when "adam"/mankind was first created, it was the "two-in-one"

    Gen 1:26-28
    26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let themrule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

    27 So God created man (humankind) in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them. (in other words, "they" were androgynous at this point..."two in one")

    28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." NIV

    It was LATER, in Gen 2 (physical creation) that Adam/male was FORMED and then Eve/female was FORMED from Adam/male's side.

    it was at this point we are told:

    'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.' Gen 2:24

    'For this reason….' What is the reason? Because they were 'one flesh' in Adam before Eve was taken out of him and now the man is instructed to 'cleave' (adhere tightly to/BOND) to his wife to become as one again.

    ...I went into more detail on this on the "Male Bias" thread...in case you missed that....

    But Adam/Eve are also a TYPE of Christ and His church...the bride taken from His side...5th piercing where blood/water pours out...spoken of in Jesus' prophecies at Feast of Tabernacles pertaining to water pouring ceremony (which included blood and wine...) and also pointing to the corporate Christ (the Rev 20 reference I made before: the kingdoms of this world becoming the kingdoms of our Lord (Jesus) and HIS CHRIST (Bride/anointed ones....) )
    He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. Eph 1:9-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    If that were true, then should not the first bird in Lev 14 have been a raven, and the second a dove?
    I realized I didn't fully answer this question. There are 3 birds that fill the type...every type will have 3 applications for the three stages of redemption. You had this lil innocent flower-shrinkin-violet all fluhstahd with all this ...whew....uncomely bee-haveeyah! (we need a dual-nature d type in the emotions, don't we? What would be your first suggestion?)
    Anyway...back to the boids and bees.
    The word used indicated a sparrow. The second "bird" is taken alone, out into the wilderness.

    Psa 102:7 I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.(remember both Elijah and Elisha "raise" the son in the upper room of the house) 1359

    Note the "35" coming through the eye of the needle..."19" in the gematria for the verse. The 35 is the lamed hey...and the hey at the end, as you know, implies "what comes from" ("she" comes from the 1st bird who has been slain, her Lover...whom she won't see until her long, lonely trek is over and their "broken hallelujah is mended)
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    Sorry...better catch this before you do!! har! I'm so used to overlapping them (as they do overlap)....the second bird is released living into the "field". It is the same thing...although she is "lost" in the world , losing her identity. (forgotten for a time)

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