Thanks for your reply to me early today. I see that Rick has his own way of raising the same issues that bother me.
You have asked me for scripture on certain points, and I could do that, if what you mean is, you are going to start using the Bible's language to express yourself, but I'm not prepared to quote verses which you then effectively take out of my hands and retranslate into the meta-language you use to express yourself.
The apostle Paul never mentioned 'an uncircumcised High Priest'. Neither did Jesus. If that 'character' is in the Bible, then it is you who needs to show groups of verses (to cover different varieties of picture language), which tell me in the Bible's language what you have in your mind. This is no more than asking you to acknowledge that I speak a different language than you. You assert that your's is biblical too, but, it is very far from what God gave the prophets. Is there any need for it to be so removed from the ground of truth He has provided in Himself?
I do think you could make it easier for yourself to communicate, if you wouldn't throw so many extra-biblical terms together in one post. If they (those terms you use) have any meaning at all, it is in how they express what God has already said in scripture.
It is this connection I am asking for... nice and slow... because I will be comparing what you say with what God has said. God restricted Himself in His personal communication with people in the Bible, always showing Himself to understand the issues from both man's point of view, and His own, His own being far more important than ours.
I will try to show from what I wrote earlier, that I think you missed some of my points - like, I didn't say God stopped speaking to Adam, is one of them.
In summary, if you don't understand why I've posted a Bible verse, then I can explain that, if you tell me. We may find that you agree already, which would be great but if we don't, then I need you to reply with the Bible verses which say something different - not with your extra-biblical terminology. It will be good practice for both of us to become more familiar with God's way of thinking.
Last edited by Charisma; 12-19-2011 at 11:38 AM.
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.